Am I The Only One Who Notices Things Like This?

[Dibbs]

El Dorado came out in 1967, over 50 years ago. Not that Hollywood promotes on-screen gun safety these days, either.

Be a hell of a thing to wake up to, having a rifle in your face.

 

[obiwan1]

it seems that every police/detective show based in NYC has ordinary civilians doing the crimes with handguns. There aren't that many legal/licensed handguns in the entire city. also it seems that all gang bangers have the latest/greatest automatic weapons. I know it's only TV, but sometimes suspending reality in favor of the story line is difficult.

 

[Zaydok Allen]

Hollywood fake and poorly written nonsense isn't new, and won't change anytime soon.

Last night I put on Specter, and at the end Daniel Craig is in a boat chasing the bad guy who is in a helicopter. He's probably shooting 400 yards or more, and manages to hit the bird repeatedly. Magically he manages to take it down from that distance with a Walther PPK in 380. Really? Ok. Not sure what kind of hyper velocity armor piercing ammo he was using, but the recoil sure seemed reasonable.

Edit: Actually an even better example from that film is when Bond hands a loaded P226 to the damsel in distress in an attempt to teach her how to use it while they’re on a moving train. Then she picks it up and ejects the magazine, and proceeds to point it right at him as she ejects the chambered round.

Apparently safety isn’t applicable to super spies.

 

[jak67429]

What is way more annoying is watching a movie with someone who constantly harps about every little thing that is not perfect. I have a friend who aI refuse to watch a movie that has any firearms in it, he will constantly and loudly point out each and every thing he finds wrong.

 

[Captcurt]

I had lunch with an assistant movie director once and asked why sparks came off of cars and cement blocks during a gunfight scene. I told him that I had never seen sparks when I shot a car. He stopped in mid-bite with a strange look on his face, and then asked what I was doing shooting cars?

I told him, "Just running ballistics test".

 

[Mr. Zorg]

Anything from Hollywood requires a willful suspension of disbelief, including "documentaries" with Michael Moore IME.

The ninja precognative abilities of Chuck Norris in "The Octagon" appeared decades before I ever heard the term "midi-chlorians" as one example. An equal level of willful suspension of disbelief makes such movies entertaining to me.

The John Wick movies are impressive to me due to the choreography executed, same as The Matrix movies.

 

[JTHunter]

Robert Culp had a great deal of self control noticing her gun instead of Racquel.

What gun?

 

[TRX]

I used to watch "Stargate", but I cringed at how they'd casually point their guns at whoever they were talking to.

Rule #5: if you're not planning to use it, keep your bleeping hands off it!

 

[Bill460]

.......This shooting scene from the movie Heat shows no recoil and technical adviser failed on the effects of loud gun blast inside the car not affecting the shooters........

That's not half as good as when you watch the rear view mirror fall off TWICE... (Once at 5:08, and again at 5:10).

 

[LOLBELL]

We are talking TV here right? Seems to go along with everything else on TV. TV is play acting and not to be taken seriously.

 

[Axis II]

The guy with the semi auto pistol that shoots 50rds and doesn't reload is what bothers me.

 

[bearcreek]

I have observed that there are some in modern American gun culture who don't quite realize that not all people in all groups of firearms users at all times in history used or currently abide by the same measures of firearms safety that they've been taught are hard and fast "rules".

 

[stonebuster]

One of the things that drives me nuts and again it's not movie Magic but I see it in westerns all the time two guys face off throw down on each other and then they talk it out and they going to the saloon and have a drink together.

I don't care who what when where or why if you point a gun at me it's certainly not going to end well and we are not going to go drinking together right afterwards

Not too much different than after a bar brawl sitting down and having a drink with the guy afterward. Things are different these days but 45 years ago I did that a couple times.

 

[jmorris]

when the shooting scenes don't express RECOIL of any guns fired

They don’t always buck around uncontrollably in real life.

 

[boom boom]

What gun?
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She is truly a concealed carrier.

 

[Speedo66]

Hollywood has no idea how firearms work or should be handled.

Of course they do, that’s why they feel so confident about telling everyone else how guns should be controlled.

 

[RetiredUSNChief]

I notice the things all the time.

A scene where the good guy is threatening the bad guy with a gun to his face...a 1911 with the hammer down. Who then proceeds to show how serious he is when the bad guy doesn't talk... by dramatically racking his 1911.

A dramatic tracking of a pump shotgun... several times in shifting scenes before any shooting action starts.

In some movies you can clearly hear by the sound of the racking of a weapon that nothing was chambered.

One of my personal favorites was a movie scene where a guy answers a door with a double barrel shotgun... and as he shouldered the weapon, you heard the sound effects of a pump shotgun being racked.

It's Hollywood... fantasy entertainment, not reality.

And honestly... this kind of stuff is like MST3000 entertainment to me any more!

 

[scaatylobo]

I was watching El Dorado last night. There's a scene in the movie where John Wayne and Robert Mitchum are doing a patrol of the town. Robert Mitchum walks past a guy sleeping on a bench with his hat down over his face and uses the muzzle of his rifle to lift the hat off the guy's face. I literally cringed when I saw it. I want to be clear what I'm saying, Mitchum put the muzzle of the rifle right in the guy's face. Not someone he was taking into custody just some random person he was checking out.

I am completely aware that I'm talking about a movie with a script writer and (likely) fake guns but that just doesn't seem like the kind of thing a person who has any understanding of firearms or firearms safety would do. Movie or not I don't think I could do something like that and I notice unsafe gun handling when I see it in a movie.

Understand your concerns.

But it was THE WILD WEST,and he was muzzling a man he thought he was about to shoot [ IF he saw a threat ] .

Not a thing I agree with,BUT a 'thing' I did see as an LEO starting back in 1982 [ not a hundred years ago ]..

J.A.F.O. [ just another f'ing observer ]

 

[WestKentucky]

Someone being Shot / killed by someone "cleaning" a gun has been an excuse since time began. The sad reality is, it is someone who was fooling around with a loaded gun and it went off doing it's damage.

Any firearm owner knows that when "cleaning" a gun, you would open the action or take it apart which would not result in the gun firing.

This is just an excuse that has been accepted for many years.

Except in semiautos or bolt rifles... possibly other guns... where part of the process of disassembly involves pulling the trigger. At least on bolt rifles most folks are using the same hand to work the bolt as they use to pull the trigger so they are doing one or the other in a mutually exclusive one handed operation.

 

[Catman42]

in the real world, 3 men from texas who came to wyoming as part of a group hired to kill 70 farmers and ranches died by shooting them selves during a gun fight with the small ranchers and farmers. two tripped and shot them selves. one got bucked off a rank horse and shot him self when he hit the ground. only one or two got shot in the fight from the other side.. my closest call in the military was from a BAR that got away from a fellow who had no business shooting one in the first place. some guys are not ment to hold a gun in their hands. he wasnt. as to the movies, some are getting better. shane was and is my favorite.

 

[GEM]

One of my hobbies is naval history - so don't ask me about the vast majority of naval shows on the tube. Very few have the ships rights, guns right,etc. Same with planes.

 

[theotherwaldo]

One of my hobbies is naval history

Me, too.
I got handed the tasks of updating the plans of ships ranging from the Perry Class frigates to the Glomar Explorer as well as performing Engineering Assistance Request services during construction or during updates or repairs.
I quickly learned that even the official plans and histories aren't exactly true... .

 

[Jim Watson]

One of my hobbies is naval history - so don't ask me about the vast majority of naval shows on the tube. Very few have the ships rights, guns right,etc. Same with planes.

True, but the participants weren't determined to video every single thing like we are now, and ships are kind of expensive for reenactments.
I saw one Navy movie that used very detailed ship models with cinematography to disguise the models and the transitions from models to full size sets with actors. But the water didn't SPLASH right! Had to get to college and take Fluid Dynamics with Reynolds Numbers, etc. to see why.

 

[Shanghai McCoy]

Funny thing, watching that History Channel show about George Washington they had the British fleet, I assume computer graphics, and my wife pipes up, "Those are the wrong flags." She was right, they had the full on Union Jack instead of the proper Royal Navy ensign.

 

[GEM]

Well, I've seen the same cargo ship blown up as everything from a destroyer to a battleship. I've seen US battleship gun video being used as the Bismarck and Yamato firing away.

The Barnham explosion and the Szent Istvan are used for almost every major ship blowing up and/or rolling over. The Barnham explosion is horrific to see.