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Hey guys I was thinking of buying this ak variant.

Hungarian AMD-65 SA-2000M AK-47 rifle, FEG receiver, TGI import, w/ side folding stock.

http://www.jgsales.com/hungarian-am...tgi-import,-w-side-folding-stock.-p-3115.html

One of my questions is can you install a regular wood stock on these receivers? I don't like that side folding metal rod.

Also after doing some googling about this particular gun, there is lots of information about people having to convert them to accept hi cap ak mags. The gun ad says that it comes with a 20 round mag and accepts most standard ak mags. Is there anything I need to know first about the magazines before buying this gun? The budsgunshop ad for the gun also states that it accepts hi cap mags, I just dont understand why there is so many forum threads on converting these things.

Thanks for any info.
 
It would be a pain to switch stocks... you would have to drill out the rivets and remove the current stock trunnion and rivet in a regular one. It might not be pretty. I say if you don't like that style stock (which does really suck), it would be a lot easier to just get an AK variant that has a standard stock trunnion.

The issue with mags is that the forward pistol grip can interfere with the insertion and removal of longer mags, and sometimes you have to cut some off the back of it to allow them to clear.

You can use a standard AK lower handguard, but you can't install an upper grip unless you get an AK gas tube with the upper handguard mount. If you don't put the upper handguard on, you will burn yourself on the gas tube.

Also it only has a 12.5" barrel... everything after the gas block is an extension designed to make it 16" long, and not an SBR. So you get the reduced velocity and sight radius of a short barrel, without any reduction in length over a standard AK.

Personally I'm not a big fan of AMD's as rifles. They are better with the original length barrel, as pistols or SBRs.
 
too late, just bought one like 15 seconds ago. Thanks for the information though. I do want to run 30 round mags in it, whatever it takes to make that happen I'm going to do.

Krebs custom makes this little block that supposedly allows different stock types to be put on. Might be something for me to look into.

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The AMD 65 is one of the best values out there right now for AK pattern rifles. The TGI ones built on the FEG receivers are the ones you want.

For the stock, you can get a riser from here: http://www.amd65tech.com/
This greatly improves the cheekweld and shootability.

As for hi cap mags, these rifles are originally built as single-stack guns and then the magwell is opened up to accept the standard hi cap mags. Perhaps that's where the confusion was coming from.

your rifle will come already modified to accept standard hi cap mags. You won't need to do anything other than shoot it and enjoy it!
 
GrandmasterB said:
The AMD 65 is one of the best values out there right now for AK pattern rifles. The TGI ones built on the FEG receivers are the ones you want.

For the stock, you can get a riser from here: http://www.amd65tech.com/
This greatly improves the cheekweld and shootability.

As for hi cap mags, these rifles are originally built as single-stack guns and then the magwell is opened up to accept the standard hi cap mags. Perhaps that's where the confusion was coming from.

your rifle will come already modified to accept standard hi cap mags. You won't need to do anything other than shoot it and enjoy it!
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That cheek riser looks like it would give a awful lot of recoil bite. I've never shot a 7.62 round but I'm assuming they pack a nice little punch, that bar that you lay your cheek on looks punishing. Anyone have first hand experience with these?

Thanks for the clearing up the magazine issue, I'll rest easier knowing that I don't have to do any modding.
 
JBrady555 said:
That cheek riser looks like it would give a awful lot of recoil bite. I've never shot a 7.62 round but I'm assuming they pack a nice little punch, that bar that you lay your cheek on looks punishing. Anyone have first hand experience with these?

Thanks for the clearing up the magazine issue, I'll rest easier knowing that I don't have to do any modding.
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7.62x39 is NOT a heavy recoiling round. It is a nice mild round. 123gr bullet at a leasurely 2400fps for roughly 1500ft/lbs energy. Add the AMD-65 "Snake Brake" into the equation and recoil is nearly non-existant.

* I am definately a fan of the AMD-65. It is my favorite AK variant.
 
Hizzie said:
7.62x39 is NOT a heavy recoiling round. It is a nice mild round. 123gr bullet at a leasurely 2400fps for roughly 1500ft/lbs energy. Add the AMD-65 "Snake Brake" into the equation and recoil is nearly non-existant.

* I am definately a fan of the AMD-65. It is my favorite AK variant.
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thanks for the information. I can't wait for mine to get here. I ordered it about 4 hours ago or so and its already shipped, be here on monday. I love www.budsgunshop.com.
 
for removing the side folding stock i doubt youll have much luck.. youd have to drill out the rivets of the side folding trunnion, remove that trunnion, weld up the holes left from doing this with a high likeliness of burning a hole in or warping the receiver and then install a fixed trunnion with new rivets.. way more work than its worth

as for the magazine.. opening an AK up for a wider magazine is not that difficult at all, dremel work mostly

my advice would be to get a saiga, and convert that at another date, or buy an arsenal AK (well worth it)... but then again, i love building my own stuff
 
jason41987 said:
for removing the side folding stock i doubt youll have much luck.. youd have to drill out the rivets of the side folding trunnion, remove that trunnion, weld up the holes left from doing this with a high likeliness of burning a hole in or warping the receiver and then install a fixed trunnion with new rivets.. way more work than its worth

as for the magazine.. opening an AK up for a wider magazine is not that difficult at all, dremel work mostly

my advice would be to get a saiga, and convert that at another date, or buy an arsenal AK (well worth it)... but then again, i love building my own stuff
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what about that krebs custom piece that I mentioned in post 3. Does it also require all that extra work? I think I wouldn't have a problem with drilling the rivets but I don't have the equipment to do that kind of thin metal receiver welding here at home, which is sad considering that I'm a boilermaker/certified structural welder.
 
JBrady555 said:
what about that krebs custom piece that I mentioned in post 3. Does it also require all that extra work? I think I wouldn't have a problem with drilling the rivets but I don't have the equipment to do that kind of thin metal receiver welding here at home, which is sad considering that I'm a boilermaker/certified structural welder.
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well, that adapter is designed specifically for AMD rifles, so no reason it shouldnt work.. if youre going to go with that you should also go with the top rail system its designed to work with so you can also add a top rail over the receiver thatll hold zero and put the rear sight on the rail
 
Yeah that stock adapter uses the existing trunion, so you wouldn't need to remove it. Just unbolt the factory stock from the trunion, bolt the adapter to the trunnion, and attach the collapsible AR stock of your choice to the adapter.

FYI it looks like that Krebs adapter raises the sight line of the rifle considerably. It may make it difficult if not impossible to use the factory iron sights. It looks to be made with high over bore optics in mind.

If I had another AMD, I would keep it simple and just get that cheek weld piece for the existing stock, and maybe tape some foam to it or wrap a bunch of duct tape around it or something. Keep it simple and light. Maybe throw an Ultimak rail and a co-witnessed red dot on it at the most. It would fill the role of truck/trunk gun nicely.
 
henschman said:
Yeah that stock adapter uses the existing trunion, so you wouldn't need to remove it. Just unbolt the factory stock from the trunion, bolt the adapter to the trunnion, and attach the collapsible AR stock of your choice to the adapter.

FYI it looks like that Krebs adapter raises the sight line of the rifle considerably. It may make it difficult if not impossible to use the factory iron sights. It looks to be made with high over bore optics in mind.

If I had another AMD, I would keep it simple and just get that cheek weld piece for the existing stock, and maybe tape some foam to it or wrap a bunch of duct tape around it or something. Keep it simple and light. Maybe throw an Ultimak rail and a co-witnessed red dot on it at the most. It would fill the role of truck/trunk gun nicely.
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do you know if the "beryl stock" would work on his rifle? ive seen cheek welds added to those as well as a full paracord wrap that looked really cool and would add a little more utility to an outdoor rifle
 
If the krebs piece makes the stock sights useless I don't think I'll go with it. I think I'll just get the cheek riser. Where can I find that top rail system for the amd?
 
I love mine the way it is I think that it is the best ak value out there. IF you think your excited now wait till you actually get your hands on it:D
 
the rail i posted is a CAA five-rail system for $500.. mako group sells the VFR rail system for $350.. and you can get a texas weapon systems dogleg rail which removes the rear sight and uses it as a hinge for a top cover/rail combination, so a new rear sight would have to be added.. those are your best options for a top rail on the AK
 
You shouldn't have any problems with the mags. I don't have any problems inserting or removing 30rd mags from my AMD. The stock isn't great for getting a cheek weld, so I've just learned to adapt to it and it's not a problem at all anymore. 7.62x39 from an AMD is not punishing at all. The brake is actually quite effective and it's not a terribly hard recoiling roundto begin with (compared to other older rifle rounds).
 
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