Surely not ...It's an Expanding Full Metal Jacket-Personal Defence round. Is this what they're going to?
I don't contend that there is far better ammuntion out there, but as I understand it, Hydra-Shoks have long been extremely good sellers - both to LEO and civilians. Unless the new round they replace it with is far cheaper than the Hydra-shoks to produce, this strikes me as a bad decision purely from a business standpoint.Hydrashoks have been superceded by newer designs, and Federal seems to have realized this.
I suspect the EFMJ is an EXCELLENT defensive round.
And this is based on what study or report? Cite please.HYdrashoks have a far better reputation than it deserves nowadays, the center 'pin' has a nasty habit of gathering clothing material (like denim) and turning the bullet into a fmj with associated nonexpansion/overpenetration issues.
I don't think so, but then I don't know what your frame of reference is… the "original design" in .45 ACP at least utilized a 230-grain lead HP made by Alperts.Hydrashoks have been changed . the original design penetrated too much.
And that should tell you something… not that the Hydra-Shoks aren't excellent anti-personnel rounds anymore, only that Federal/ATK has something newer in the pipeline that they wish to promote, and nervous distributors and dealers are going to fire-sale those puppies outta their inventory.As I sit here with my tinfoil hat reading the flyer from Southern Ohio Gun, they're selling 50 rounds of 230gr .45 Hydra-Shoks for $11.95.
It consistently fails to expand when tested against 4 layers of denim cloth. Several testers have observed this, including myself, David DiFabio and Gary Roberts.And this is based on what study or report? Cite please.
Okay, but I believe that even Doctor Roberts will concur that what you've just posted is "anecdotal." I'm not interested in what people "heard" somewhere, or think they read somewhere but can't remember where or who wrote it or said it.Dean asks: And this is based on what study or report? Cite please.
It consistently fails to expand when tested against 4 layers of denim cloth. Several testers have observed this, including myself, David DiFabio and Gary Roberts.
Nor have I, Archer, but people persist in talking about things when they don't even know the name of what they're discussing. (Hint: look at the name on the ammo box!)I have never heard of Hydro-Shoks…
Roger that! It's not only a scary cool and distinctive name, it's a long time market leader, and there's gonna be a helluva lot of agencies and departments that want their Hydra-Shoks the way others a generation ago wanted their MayPo!…one might opine that Federal would do well to keep it in some form, at least from a marketing point of view.