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American Reloading pull down powder

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by Enfielder, Jan 23, 2023.

  1. Slamfire

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    Ought to be. I had to find the 20% stabilizer rule, and why, but the military tests gun powders and flushes propellant lots and ammunition lots out of inventory when there is 20% or less stabilizer. Of course, they are not testing every day, so some lots have a lot less stabilizer than others, when pulled.

    The 20% rule is based on the assumption the gunpowder with 20% stabilizer will not ignite in five years. Which is an assumption, but a working assumption. Gunpowder is not a particular auto ignition risk inside cartridges as the case is a heat sink and will draw heat away from the gunpowder. (A Naval Insensitive Munitions expert who had written after action Kaboom reports claimed in his experience, this theory is bogus). But everyone agrees, in bulk, old gunpowder will auto ignite at some point of deterioration. Camp Minden Louisiana demills all sorts of cannon and small arms powders. The guys at Clark's Guns, just down the road, hear kabooms all the time. One of the bigger kabooms, heard like 90 miles away, was due to smokeless propellants autocombusting in bulk. Like pallet loads of the stuff. In bulk is like the amount of stuff in a can, or keg.

    Old pull down powder, shoot it up before you start getting case neck cracks, and it starts smelling bitter. It is only a matter of time. And you don't know when clock started. Sellers are quite willing to give you magic beans for your cow.
     
  2. Enfielder

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    Correction: now that I’ve taken delivery, the actual info provided by AR is as follows.
    45 cap
    230grn bullet
    Charge wt. 6.5 grains
    Velocity. 935/fps.
    No barrel length.
    It seems quite stout.
     
  3. wcwhitey

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    I am also in NY. Just wait for a good Midway deal and put together a good size order. Save on shipping when you can and spread out the hazmat. That’s what I do. Stores have some powder but things are still tight, prices are high and they also have to absorb the hazmat, shipping and add a markup. So $50 for a $35 pound of powder is not too far off. Gone are the days of buying a pound here and there as s sample. Buy it cheap and stack it deep. Spread this associated costs out!
     
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  4. Enfielder

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    That’s why I don’t feel bad about buying 5# of pistol powder from a reloading supply house. I did an inventory tonight and I have more than enough powder for several years at the rate that I shoot. I do need LR primers and .358 200gr RNSP but they’ll show up soon enough.
     
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  5. GeoDudeFlorida

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    Watch the auction sites too. Every once in a while one of the estate sales sellers accidentally sells at a decent price.
     
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  6. wcwhitey

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    That’s how I got my current lot of primes. 3 years ago right In the middle of COVID I bought a lot of primers from a closed gun shop at auction. They were older but still working fine. Wound up to average $40/K
     
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