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American Shooter/OLN

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by RobW, Jul 15, 2003.

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  1. RobW

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    My program shows since more than 2 weeks nothing else than "bicycling" for that "OLN - Outdoors" channel. On July 4th, 19 HOURS CONSECUTIVE BICYCLING!!!

    Where is American Shooter, Fly fishing, Bass fishing, all that stuff real outdoors? Are we a Nation of bicyclers now, watching 10 hours or more for the "Tour de France"?

    I'm done with that. They do that seek and hide with Jim Scoutten as good as TNN did it.
     
  2. spacemanspiff

    spacemanspiff Senior Member

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    roger that! i sat down last friday thinking i'd be watching some gun shows and instead i wound up watching, well i forget what, but it wasnt gun-related programming!



    edit: This post breaks 1000 posts for me! its official! i have no life and i waste my time that i should be working! yaaay! :neener:
     
  3. JohnKSa

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    This has been hashed over pretty good in a couple of threads. A search should find them for more details.

    Summary:

    Jim Scoutten quit making American Shooter.
    Jim Scoutten started making Shooting USA.
    OLN has been airing American Shooter reruns, but is phasing them out.
    Shooting USA was scheduled to start airing in June on OLN.
    Shooting USA is now scheduled to start airing in August OLN.
     
  4. hksw

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    Well, Lance Armstrong. An American rider riding for an American Team in France kicking sore butts. Going for his 5th straight win in the TdF. What's more, the French don't like him because he doesn't suck up to them. Unlike Greg Lemond, an American riding for the French. (back them, of course, France was so-so OK.)

    There is, of course, also his riding ability.
     
  5. DWS1117

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    I wasn't aware that OLN was still doing "outdoor" programing. Everytime I turn to that channel I swear it is ESPN 27 or something like that.

    I know the the TDF is a bike race held in "outside", but I consider that more a sporting event and as such should be on be on ESPN 2 at like 3am.
     
  6. 10-Ring

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    To be going for a 5th straight tour win after overcoming cancer is beyond amazing. Let them give the tour is coveage (it'll be done by August) and all your shows will prollycome back.
     
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    I totally agree with you. What Mr. Armstrong has been able to accomplish is nothing short of miraculous. And I hope that he kick some Frenchy bike butt a 5th time. It just seems that other networks are more suited to the type of programing. Its not like this race is a two or three day event. I guess sponsorship and money help make the choices.
     
  8. stellarpod

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    Ditto hksw, 10-Ring and DWS1117.

    Most folks who don't ride have no concept, much less respect for the shear magnitude of accomplishing even a single stage win in the Tour. Imagine running a 26-mile marathon for 20 days straight and you begin to get the idea. Almost.

    And for Lance to be going for a 5th consecutive win, after his battle with cancer, it's just incredible. A fine American, riding for an American team and rubbing it in the nose of the French in their own country with their own sporting event.

    Can it get any better? :D

    stellarpod
     
  9. Sylvilagus Aquaticus

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    It's more like a 120 mile marathon for 20 days straight. In the heat. Uphill both ways. Dodging obstacles. Lance is sort of a local guy around here; in fact, a local radiation oncology unit is named in his honor. Quite an accomplishment. I salute all fellow cancer survivors, especially since I used to work in the field of oncology.

    On a side note, who else has grinned at the fact that Team USA is sponsored by the US Postal Service? I wonder if we could interest him in Mountain Bike Biathlon?

    Regards,
    Rabbit.
     
  10. Schuey2002

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    That and the fact that he's wearing the Maillot Jaune! :D
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  11. ed dixon

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    Agreed. Lance Armstrong is a phenomenon and a piece of history to be savored. "People say I must be on something. I tell them I am ... my bike."
     
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    Armstrong's accomplishments are impressive, and I do understand the need for coverage of a wide variety of events...:rolleyes:

    ...but I do miss the shooting shows...:(

    Any way we could get him to shoot something during the race?...:D
     
  13. pytron

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    I'm jealous

    I don't get OLN and I love watching both the TdF and shooting shows. It's probably better for my health though.
     
  14. Gunfyter

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    These guys are incredible athletes. Little or no body fat, eat seven to ten thousand calories a day, brings new meaning to "peddling your a$$ for a livng" :neener:
     
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    ... want shooting!
     
  16. Alan Smithiee

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    oh PLEASE! he rides a Bicycle for a living. he had cancer, he survived with lots of modern medicine. he is NOT someone important.

    lots of people these days survive cancer and go on to do important things. where is the mass media coverage about them?

    I would love to see him handle a classroom of 3rd graders or work the graveyard shift in a inner city ER or go running into a burning buildings day after day.

    THAT would make him important and usefull.

    we want shooting sports carried on TV, we want Jim! we want Fishing! we want how to call an Elk. what we don't need is some person driving up the price of sporting equiptment to pay for the huge advertising contract they want.
     
  17. Justin

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    I am not a sports fan by any stretch of the imagination. I watch maybe one football game a year, and couldn't tell you anything about any major sport. In short, I'm completely clueless.

    Having said that, even I know who Lance Armstrong is, and realize that he's an absolutely phenomenal athlete who's accomplished things that most people couldn't even think about without getting out of breath.

    Armstrong's story is not only amazing, it's inspirational, and to try and talk that down seems pretty silly, IMNHO.

    As for no shooting shows, give it time. The TdF is run every year, and will come to an end at which point OLN will go back to their regularly scheduled programming. :)
     
  18. hksw

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    I guess the same thing can be said for Tom Knapp, Bob Munden, Rob Leatham, Jerry Miculek, etc. What useless slugs.
     
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    Yeah, but I bet Rob Leatham can ride a bike & shoot at the same time...:neener:
     
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    How does a professional cyclist drive up the price of sporting equipment?

    You would think so, but other networks don't cover the race (aside from a blurb about who won each day).
     
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    Armstrong gets a lifetime pass from me

    Sorry Nanaimo,

    When my nephew was 14 years old and at the Mayo clinic with leukemia, Armstrong came through the pediatric ward and talked to every kid there that he could. He spent an hour or so with my nephew Joel, with Joel talking about how he wanted to be a long snap center back at his high school if he got out.

    Armstorng told him a lot of things about ovecoming the challenge of being afraid for your life and feeling helpless and a few personal things. But my nephew was rejuvenated by the visit at a particularly tough point in his treatment. A few weeks later Armstrong sent him a jersey that he kept on the wall of his room at Mayo till he went home, thank God.

    He did get back on the hgih school team and did three years as the long snap center at Northwestern. Lance has stayed in touch with him over the years and asked my nephew to pass on the gift of hope to others with cancer, and he does. Years later my nephew sent Armstorng a Northwesternm football jersey in return.

    Sorry, Armstrong will always be something very special to all of us. No 8 figure contract drives him and you don't find him on the front page for making some teen-aged girl pregnant at a club.

    Heroes are hard to come by these days, bnut I believe he qualifies and not just for his riding ability.

    Don P.

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    My daughter handles 5 classrooms a day of inner city high school kids and her husband works on truck number 22 in the Chicago Fire Dept. They think he's special too.
     
  22. ed dixon

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    How charmingly ridiculous. A young man who faces stage four cancer, has brain surgery, abdominal surgery, an orchectomy, and continues to train through chemotherapy until he passes out certainly sounds like more flash than substance. He then not only wins but dominates what many consider to be the most difficult sporting event in the world and still claims his proudest achievement is to be a cancer survivor. What a shoddy pretentious role model. Surely he wouldn't have the patience or gumption to deal with third graders. Get a grip.
     
  23. stellarpod

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    only one word... c l u e l e s s.

    stellarpod

    (if we've got to explain it, you'll never get it)
     
  24. Alan Smithiee

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    so far I still see nothing special. he has done nothing that lots of other people haven't done and don't get the fame.

    come on people, why is he important and special? prove it to me.

    and where do you think the money for endorsments comes from? it's tacked on to the cost of the product.

    DonP, a friend of mine does magic shows at childerns hospitals, been doing that for over 20 years. makes the kids laught and feel better when they are hurting. where is his media adoration?, is there a difference between him and Armstrong? I'm happy that your nephew recovered. but who is more important. the people who developed the treatment? or the athleat?

    "A young man who faces stage four cancer, has brain surgery, abdominal surgery, an orchectomy, and continues to train through chemotherapy until he passes out certainly sounds like more flash than substance"

    yup, sounds pretty stupid to me. most people would have taken the time off and healed. but he's an athleat, so it must be heroic. a friend of mine's mother is going through Chemo, should she be training to climb a mountain? or to sail around the world?

    "He then not only wins but dominates what many consider to be the most difficult sporting event in the world and still claims his proudest achievement is to be a cancer survivor. What a shoddy pretentious role model. Surely he wouldn't have the patience or gumption to deal with third graders. Get a grip."

    I've survived a few things in my life and went on to do things too, does that mean I'm special? or do I have to win a bike race to be considered important?

    I find it interesting that all I said was that he wasn't important, and I get this response. you would think I had said Charlton Heston deserves Alzhimerz because he is responsible for all the deaths at Columbine from the way you people are reacting.

    "I guess the same thing can be said for Tom Knapp, Bob Munden, Rob Leatham, Jerry Miculek, etc. What useless slugs."

    never said he was a useless slug. never said they were useless slugs either. but are they important? I think this country needs to readjust a few of it's priorities, a Race Car driver dies in a wreck during a race. the nation mourns, but how many people even remember the Marines who died in a training accident that same week. or the cops. or the firemen? Princess Diana dies in a car wreck and it's front page all over for months, everyone boo hoo. Mother Theresa dies and very little notice. sorry, I think Mother Theresa was much more deserving of the adoration than Diana.

    sorry, I don't worship at the altar of Celebrity. I guess that means I don't have a clue for thinking for myself instead of what the herd tells me to think. oh well, I'll just save my respect for people who do something really worth while. people like Dr. Johnas Stalk, the people who find a cure for HIV or Cancer. the cop who used to work with my wife who is now dealing with the results a attempted suicide by cop. the men and women who are fighting the forest fires that are destroying peoples homes north of us. they deserve my respect. I don't see where Armstrong does.

    Naw, I'll just let you folkes tell me how clueless I am because I don't worship celebrity like you do.
     
  25. CZSteve

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    Well? :confused:

    Nanaimo,

    At least you are very entertaining.
    (15 minutes of fame?)

    This is almost as good as the 'Mall Ninja' post
    :D

    Ed Dixon & DonP;
    Very well stated.
     
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