Ammo shipment missing - how to proceed?

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I would take it further up the ladder with the shipper, at least on the supervisory level. They may have just "not delivered it. No one knows anything anymore as we all know when you call any service person. They left a 9mm XD in my driveway once in Broward. Right in front of my gate, the guy could have at least opened the gate and put it on the inside my door which was 10 ft away from the entrance of my home.
Last night someone knocked our Gaurdhouse gate down for the 10th time this year. People don't care, left your clicker home, just drive your truck right through.
 
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dogtown tom, yes. the shipper accepts liability for the package if the signature is not obtained, but obtaining the sig is still apparently optional in low-risk delivery areas. I can't say if it is a company option or a driver option, but I still get signature required deliveries left at the front door. Mostly from FedEx ground. FedEx Express always asks for a sig.
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How can a service, that we pay the shipper for, be optional?

If you pay for all your brake pads to be replaced, does the mechanic have the option of just replacing the front ones?

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How can a service, that we pay the shipper for, be optional?
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I don't know. I asked but all I was told was that signatures were optional in low-risk areas. they still accept liability for any loss if the package is not received.

One time the driver hid the package behind some bushes. When I told UPS or FedEx (I don't remember which) I hadn't received the package, they told me that GPS records showed that the driver had stopped at my house and gave me the time he arrived and left and suggested I check around the house and with the neighbors. I did and found the package. Apparently they feel that with GPS tracking, they can tell when a package is delivered and in low-risk areas, can save time by not waiting at the door for a sig. Time is money for them and if they can save enough time apparently it covers the liability for the occasional lost package.
 
It was probably delivered to the wrong address. Ask your neighbors.

I received a box of ammo from Midway a couple weeks ago. I was expecting a shipment from them so I opened it. I thought WOW, that was fast shipping. I was shocked to see that Midway had completely goofed up the order. I put on my reading glasses and read the label. The package belonged to my neighbor across the street. I took it to him the same day.

ETA: I live in a rural area and houses aren't clearly marked. Also, if using a Garmin Nuvi... the map directs my residence across the street to a vacant piece of land. Ya gotta love hi-tech.:D

Sadly, many folks don't seem to care if others don't rightfully receive things of value and some will even keep what's mistakenly delivered to them... which is theft, IMHO, legal or not.:(
 
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"a UPS shipping center. They'll accept delivery."

Ha, I thought they were for shipping. What do I know, my neighbor signed for my packages for nearly 30 years, but she died in July.

John
 
My wife is an artist.
We mailed a framed piece of artwork via USPS with Insurance and delivery confirmation.

The item was listed as "Delivered." The buyer told me they never received it! The recipient apparently lives in a busy College-Town, and we all figured someone lifted the package.

So, my wife had to file to get the insurance payment and had to re-create another similar work of art, all because someone has it that shouldn't have it!

About ten years ago, someone signed for some art materials delivered to our house, however nothing was delivered! We had to literally go through our neighborhood, going door-to-door, asking if people had received a package!

Several months later, still nothing. Then my wife said there was one house nearby that she said no one answered the door. I went there and the lady had the item, she was "going to get it back to us when she had the time."

Yeah, I believe that - after three or four months? If I hadn't confronted her, I bet my wife still would not have that delivery and that was about ten years ago! :barf:
 
I'm another lucky one, if the FedEx or UPS guy comes down my road he's probably one of the four vehicles that will travel it all day.

But, I have a decorative woodbox on my front porch that is there precisely for the drivers to put my packages in so that they are, A) not visible from the road B) Protected from rain blowing in on the porch.
 
If the merchandise is insured and the delivery person doesn't get a signature, can't the recipient make a claim? The signature should be proof of delivery.

Maybe you can file a complaint to the BATF against the delivery company for negligence in handling hazardous materials.
 
once came home to a package on my porch. it ended up being a bees wax spinner or somthing like that. It ended up being the neighbors across the streets package. I knew this because of the address on the package lol I have had the same thing happen with regular mail also. checking ur neighbors for it would be a good idea
 
A FFL can't deliver a pistol or cause to be delivered to a person below the age of 21
SO, if the package is Shipped adult or over 21 Sig required, it's fulfilling the letter of the law...

If said package is left in front of your driveway....
 
You have pistols delivered directly to your residence?:confused::what:
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If you return a pistol for factory repair, you can ship direct to the factory (FFL) and the factory (FFL) can return ship direct to you. (not that this applies to the subject of this thread):uhoh:
 
Y'all should talk to some UPS and FedEx drivers sometime, and ask what their day is like. How many packages they deliver every day. How many upper management nazis they have breathing down their necks with stopwatches, and all the rules they have to deal with. I wouldn't work for either outfit, but I have great respect for the poor bastards that do.

Commercial routes where they visit the same businesses every day aren't so bad, but probably deal with higher volumes of parcels. But the residential routes? NFW I'd want to do that job! Now think about the rural routes too. Those guys HAVE to leave your package on the porch, because they HAVE to deliver it. And yes, address mistakes happen, or they leave something with a neighbor if they think it might be safer or the neighbor is home.

I'm just sayin', they're not perfect, but they've got a miserable, thankless job to do, and people are generally po'd at them for things beyond their control. Still a lot better that the USPS though. You also have to consider the growing phenomenon of ordering things online, and the exponential growth of parcels to deliver. I'm sure that whole industry is more of a nightmare than us peons can comprehend. Cut 'em a little slack. Give 'em some homemade cookies or something cool to drink. Give 'em a smile and some kind words, and say thank you. Give 'em a reason to remember you, I bet it'll pay off someday.
 
^^^ You have pistols delivered directly to your residence?
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I am a home-based FFL/SOT. I have machine guns delivered to my residence.

My delivery drivers are all very good about getting signatures. Unfortunately a very few FFL's have shipped guns for transfer with no insurance or signature required - despite charging the customer for it. :cuss:
 
One little detail I am POSITIVE that some of you are missing..

Simply writing SIGNATURE REQUIRED on the box doesn't do it. You MUST mark it on the airbill. As far as opening gates to leave your package on the porch. Some will , some won't. Per FedEx rules, drivers are NOT supposed to open gates. Apparently one did years ago, and a prize horse got out or something before he could close it. Also, if there is a gate.... Is there a dog behind it? I value my balls too much to attempt outrunning a mean dog. And the driver doesn't carry a gun to shoot your idiot dog. Better to stay out of the situation.
A lot of you whine and bitch about delivery drivers, and some of you have reason, but most of you have never read the fine print or the conditions of delivery which is printed on the back of some airbills or at least on the services web page. As for freight not snowballing if the driver doesn't get it delivered... It damned sure does snowball. Do you think these companies have a room full of drivers waiting to be called out on the road or a lot full of extra trucks to help? Nope. Not in this economy! Routes are stretched so thin that they're almost impossible to complete, some days they are impossible. A lot of times your phone will ring and if you don't pick up, the driver won't leave a message. He's calling from his personal phone with his number blocked because He doesn't want you calling him back at home around 3am asking if somebody called from that number. The company doesn't pay him to do it, but he's trying to get your crap delivered.
Some couriers, from EVERY company, are crap. But 99% bust their balls trying to get the job done, because that's how they would expect it if it was their package. That's how I look at it and that's what I expect when somebody deliveres a package to me. "they never knocked. I was home". BS!!!!!
That courier WANTS TO GET RID OF YOUR CRAP! Especially if he drove out in the boonies to get it to you. You didn't hear because you were down in the basement or out in the shop or taking a nap. Fix your doorbell too! I'm sick and tired of hearing about fedex/ups/postal couriers suck so bad and you know exactly what you're doing when you ship a package. Half of you scribble the addresses so bad it's like code breaking to read it after it's gone through three copies of the airbill.

Ok, rant off. let the flames begin.


Ps- put some clothes on when you answer the door! I'm tired of naked rednecks asking , "can I hep you?" when they answer the door!
 
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When I'm expecting a delivery I always request that the driver leave it inside my detached garage. On the day it's expected to arrive I leave my gate open and the garage unlocked.
 
I have FAR more problems with USPS than with FedEx or UPS. USPS will just flat out lie about attempting to deliver a package because they are too lazy to get out of their vehicle and walk down the driveway if it doesn't fit in the mailbox. Also, if they don't feel like delivering to you on a particular day they'll just write "box blocked" on all of your mail - some of which may be time sensitive - so they can get through the route quicker. That has happened to me at least three times when there was no one parked anywhere near the box.

The one problem I had with UPS was at a UPS Store. A gunsmith dropped off a gun of mine for them to ship and told them what it was. They accepted the package. A week later I called Kimber and asked what the status was of the repairs, they stated that they had never received it. Turns out that UPS Stores will not ship firearms but they accepted the package and did not bother to advise the gunsmith that they weren't going to ship it. So my gun sat at the UPS store for a week until I figured out what had happened :rolleyes:
 
a co worker ordered a m1 garand from the cmp . ups left on the back porch . took him aweek to find it because he never used the back entrance to his house.
 
you all

Most of the guys working for UPS, FED EX, and USPS (98%) work their asses off getting you your stuff.

All of the above give their employees about 9 hours of work or more and expect it done in under 8 hours.

Also that is in some pretty crappy weather I might add.

They all have bad days too. Cut them some slack.


steve:banghead:
 
Cut them some slack for lying about delivering the package when they never did, and costing me about $260 if I don't get reimbursed?

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I appreciated them leaving my ammo and milsurps without a signature. That way, I didn't have to drive out to the shop to pick 'em up.

These days, I request delivery to my office. It's easier on them, and I don't have to wonder. If it happens to be 3 or 4 cases of 7.62x39, my coworkers just might think twice before irritating me. :D
 
Just yesterday, USPS brought me nearly 65 lbs of Missouri Bullets in a single flat rate box. The little lady (not condescending, she's just not very big) hauled the box to the porch despite snow on the driveway and walkway. Actually, I felt pretty guilty for not shoveling some snow and the weight of the package. Next time, I may ask Brad to split the delivery into two boxes. And I sure won't complain about USPS failing to do a great job on this delivery.
 
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