An Army of many Who Can't Cut It

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An army of many who can't cut it

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Posted: January 21, 2003
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© 2003 WorldNetDaily.com

If the Butcher of Baghdad bolts or someone in his inner circle sells him out, George W. Bush will score the same points Ronald Reagan did for winning the Cold War without pushing the red button. As Sun Tzu wisely said 2,500 years ago, "To win without fighting is best."

But if Bush resorts to the long-planned military solution, I fear that our conventional Army troops tagged for down where the bullets snap won't be fully combat-ready for the cruelest test of all – ground fighting.

The units that whipped Saddam's sorry militia in 1991 are no longer the same razor-sharp outfits that realized that magnificent victory. Back then, from division commanding general down to rifle and tank platoon sergeants, most of the leaders – after being bloodied in Vietnam – spent years training the way they would fight before setting off to smash Saddam's finest. But like Stormin' Norman, most of these leaders are retired and will be watching "Desert Storm: The Sequel" on the tube.

For sure, taking out most of the Iraqi army will be as easy as the Oakland Raiders whipping a high-school football team. But as in Afghanistan, there could be some bad scraps where grunt skills will be more important than wonder weapons – not to mention the odds for future hard fights in this long war of terrorism that mandate maintaining a well-trained, well-disciplined Army.

Despite the "Army of One" TV ads, the standards of today's Green Machine remain criminally softened, the training from basic to brigade frayed by political correctness, risk aversion, senior-brass denial and general-to-captain micromanagement.

"Over a quarter of the new troops I received in my rifle company couldn't qualify with their M-16-A2 (rifle) or pass the Army Physical Fitness Test," reports a stud of an infantry captain who was a contender in the Army's Best Ranger competition.

A tough platoon sergeant who was well-trained by his sergeant-major dad says: "I've watched my beloved Army disintegrate since Desert Storm. Most officers only care about their careers. They're afraid to make decisions and micromanage everything. They've damaged their sergeants' ability to make decisions."

Reprising Sun Tzu – "Vacillation and fussiness are the surest means of sapping the confidence of an army." A June 2000 study supports the platoon sergeant's comments, stating that the Army suffers from "stifling micromanagement and a promotion system driven by bureaucratic needs."

"I graduated from West Point in '97," says recently resigned Airborne Ranger Capt. Taylor Hanes. "The tragedy is that young men are joining the Army today for all the right reasons. However, they become quickly disenchanted and disgusted. And most real leaders want no part of the line infantry because it doesn't involve challenge or the warrior ethos. In my unit, the majority of the excellent junior officers were either resigning or going Special Forces. The senior leadership doesn't understand the problem quite simply because they are the problem."

A retired combat-savvy Army colonel whose tanker son is with a supposedly top-line Army unit says, "Makes me scared if he gets deployed."

The Army brass must get back to the basics and take to heart what Edward Cline, author of "Whisper the Guns," wrote: "The military is a rights-minimal social environment; its purpose is to make war, not culture or civilization."

Although conventional Army combat units performed like amateurs in Afghanistan in early '02, the Army warrior units – Special Forces and Rangers – fought there with great skill, daring and professionalism. So the brass have a standard to follow to shape up "that other army."

If Army generals from Chief of Staff Eric Shinseki on down would slam shut their computers, ditch the PowerPoint briefings, get out of their choppers and put in real time down in the dirt with their platoon sergeants – with no one around higher than first sergeants – they could turn the Army around in a year.

If I were calling the shots, I'd delay the war until '04 – to make sure our soldiers were truly good to go. Ike did exactly that at Normandy, and he saved thousands of lives.

But it's not likely that that's in the cards, since not even one national politician's son is on the list to take that dangerous trip to Iraq.
 
RAZOR SHARP IN `91?!?! Which militree was that? The Bundeswehr?

These kids today . . . back in my day we had to walk to school uphill both ways in the snow and we liked it.

Hey, buddy, Sun Tsu also said not to sell your enemy short and I argue that would apply OUR militree. Are there problems? Yes, of course. Fix them so young men come back home in one piece.
 
I get a kick out of these types of articles where Captains and such complain about the quality of recruits etc. Its always been that way, shut up and get the boys out of the barracks, train them and bring them up to your high standards of combat readiness. Basic training is only the beginning, the units have the responsibility to mould the soldiers and the unit into an efficient fighting team. This is necessary even in combat. Good units know how to integrate new soldiers into the unit. Poor ones whine about it.

It's a leadership challenge and that is what these leaders are paid to meet.

If there is an infantry or tank company out there, that is about to deploy and its commander feels they are not ready, SHAME ON HIM!
 
Face it, Clinton gutted our military, not only budgetarily but in morale as well. Two years of a marginally better(though completely more decent) president isn't enough to fix it.

I believe we'll roll thru this war just like Desert Storm. But there's a chill that says we may not. And there's a serious worry that in the kind of house to house fighting we may experience we'll fail, miserably. When you weigh in certain other possibilities, from the direct and non-direct actions of other countries to the possibilities of bio and chem use I believe we may be ill-prepared for what we're entering in to.
 
"Over a quarter of the new troops I received in my rifle company couldn't qualify with their M-16-A2 (rifle) or pass the Army Physical Fitness Test," reports a stud of an infantry captain who was a contender in the Army's Best Ranger competition.

I watched this competition on the tube. These were some tough fellows.

I can't help but agree with the idea of the article based on what I have seen in the past few years about boot camp and training. It all looks so easy compared to what I went through in 86'.

Then again, I'm out of the loop and hope to God that the current troops are demanding more and more training. Combat is serious stuff and I think the current troops know what is coming. Hell, I would make darn sure I'm in the best physical health possible knowing I was going to have to depend on it to save my life.
 
So maybe we need to upgrade our drill sergeants. I could train my little sister to qualify with a rifle in a weekend. Exactly what are they doing at boot camp, anyway?
 
Things were always so much better in the past. Basic training was tougher. Leaders were smarter and more honest. Rifles were more accurate. We, ourselves, were younger...

I honestly do not remember a time in my whole life when the US military was appraised as being able to "cut it."

Just another example of TKD syndrome. (TKD=These Kids Today)
 
The way I see it, ground troops at the front are best used as either security for radio operators, or security for armor. Not offensively, and not in "house to house" fighting. The only house to house fighting that should happen should play out like "We're taking fire from that house. Load high explosive, fire!"
 
I think this is a time-honored complaint that has been echoed by every generation about the next. Ever hear about the draft riots in the Civil War? The tough times will bring out the greatness that is sleeping in some. Look at Alvin York, for example. A conscientious objector for crying out loud. When he got his mind right he became one of the great heroes, up there with Crockett, Bowie, Travis, and all the rest. Audie Murphy is another. No service would take the puny underage fella until the army took him in. What a warrior that undersized guy turned out to be!
 
I'm surprised that the "...Saddam's invincible Republican Guard" quote wasn't used more often in this piece.

So maybe we need to upgrade our drill sergeants. I could train my little sister to qualify with a rifle in a weekend. Exactly what are they doing at boot camp, anyway?
The key lies in the above quote. Want "These Kids Today" to be ready? Get off your :cuss: and teach them how. I just spent the last weekend teaching 3 kids how to handle a rifle safely and effectively. Last year I taught a total of about 30 kids. This year (God willing) probably closer to 50.

Many of the survival skills for combat that I learned were imparted to me long before I ever wore a uniform. One of my high school gym teachers was a Korean War vet. He taught us snowshoeing, x-country skiing, x-country running - so we could move out in rough terrain/conditions

Archery (the instruction books that he had the school purchase included chapters on fashioning our own bows and arrows, he let us take the books home for study) so we would understand marksmanship and improvised weapon building

Orienteering - so that we would understand land navigation. Our Earth Science teacher taught us sea navigation.

Four of the teachers were officers in the local Rod & Gun club. We had a junior Rod & Gun club within the high school.

It will stick in my craw to say it, but we will always have the possibility of Commanders in Chief that are either malevolent (Klinton) or incompetent (Carter).

The heritage of the Minuteman is ours to keep or lose. It is up to us.

Edited to add that the overwhelming majority of us hunted. This gave us a variety of skills including, but not limited to:

Being able to feed ourselves.

Stealth

Learning to "know" the woods, and how subtle things like birdsongs - or their absence - tell you something.

The ability to hit a target in motion.

etc.
 
Shoulda put a Hackworth alert on this...
If I were calling the shots...
You're not, and I'm ever more greatful every minute of every day that you're not.
 
Shoulda put a Hackworth alert on this...

Blackhawk

You REALLY like the guy, huh?;) :rolleyes:

Anyway, let's hope he is way wrong.
 
The way I see it, ground troops at the front are best used as either security for radio operators, or security for armor. Not offensively, and not in "house to house" fighting. The only house to house fighting that should happen should play out like "We're taking fire from that house. Load high explosive, fire!"

That would work, right up until it is decided to take a city without leveling it. Like the US Military generally tries to do it (within reason, of course).
 
I wonder what will happen to the "warrior ethos" when the bulk of our combat forces will be made up of UAVs, RPVs and such, augmented by handful of select "special" forces...

That age is rapidly approaching. It is said that LIC means "lawyer-infested conflict." Maybe when this age comes, lawyers can directly operate the RPVs from bunkers... :)

Lawyers as warriors - here it comes! :)
 
The military is not a sounding board for society, too bad those in charge doesn't understand this. What did we expect when the cure for low morale is to give everybody a black beret? Or a female ammo handler that only can pass the annual skill qualification test by using empty ammo cans to get under the time limit? Or provide a step stool for those that can't get over a wall on the obstacle course,because "this failure could be mentally traumatic to the recruit". The LTs & COs are pressured into making quotas with unqualified soldiers by higher because of PC policies. I could go on & on. I left the Army Reserves after active duty because I got tired of"come on sarge, lighten up, Its not like we're in the army" This is from Officers:(

I wish our soldiers in the desert a quick & decisive victory.
 
Well, my co-writer keeps me up on the Army, as I've been out for 8 years, and I keep him up on the AF.

In basic, kids get a "time out" card in case they feel the instructor is being too mean. I'm sure the Iraqis will respect that in the middle of a torture and rape.

The instructors are not allowed to use profanity or "demean" recruits.

The Air Guard currently HAS no PT test. They forced everyone over 35 to walk the test instead of running it, because "too many people are having heart attacks."

If one of my troops had a heart attack after a wussy 1.5 mile run in 16 minutes, I'd deliver his court martial to his hospital bed. Then I'd toss his beer-gut pushing butt out. Regs require you keep yourself in shape.

They have now decided the walk isn't appropriate, and have cancelled the idea completely.

We train for small arms every three years using a laser tag mod that shoots at a 300 meter target silhouette reduced for 25 meters then screened down for 5 meters. No, I do not kid. The system is "Better" than real fire, we're told, because it's inside, dry and clean. (And yes, I am in a combat deployable unit). At 10 c a round, we'd have to run everyone in the Wing through live fire every three years for 60 years to equal the $180,000 they spent on this system in order to "Save resources."

I regularly saw troops fresh out of basic, doing training runs at tech school, melodramatically clutching their sides and falling out of formation after half a mile. Not only don't the instructors do anything about this (not allowed to), but their compatriots don't laugh at them and ask where their skirts and high heels are (with no disrespect to the ladies--they're as good or as bad as the men, depending).

For my entire career, I've had incidents of very junior troops responding to my orders with "Why?" rather than "Yes, sergeant."

It's a good thing we have the tech base and the logistics, because the majority of troops are no better than Cub Scouts. Sorry to any Cubs I just offended.

SARAH BRADY'S BIRTHDAY IS FEBRUARY 6TH. CELEBRATE BY BUYING A GUN!
 
Yeah...and I remember when we had to be able to spell, too. *sigh*

Clearly, the spirit of a departed Korean martial arts master is trying to make itself heard through me in the form of an idiotic spelling error. How wonderful for you that you were given the gift of being part of this communication process...
 
Dudes this reminds of all the hype and caterwauling before Desert Storm, bad morale, tough enemy, horrifc casualties, yada yada yada..

Remember those white flags flying???

WildsorrytheIraquisjustainttoughAlaska
 
Clearly, the spirit of a departed Korean martial arts master is trying to make itself heard through me in the form of an idiotic spelling error. How wonderful for you that you were given the gift of being part of this communication process.
:D I do, indeed, feel honored. ;)

Mike
 
Just loan them a few Drill Instructors from Parris Island or San Diego. That should get the ball rolling. Would greatly increase the wash out rate, though.

I went through MCRD San Diego in '87. It was bad enough... A few months later, the new Commandant effectively *increased* the length of basic training by adding MCT (Marine Combat Training), a month long basic infantry school attended by everyone regardless of what MOS school you were headed to.

I went to artillery school at Ft. Sill. We used to give the doggies a hard time about whether they got enough ice cream at chow, but I could see some of the "feel good" stuff even then. The only "feel good" I can remember from boot is on graduation day, when the drill instructor that you swore was the offspring if the devil suddenly smiles and shakes your hand.

I guess I really don't have a point, just some lame observations from a Marine who spent a few months on an Army base.
 
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