Angry, but refusing to get 'their' license

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My brother is getting married in about a month, in Maine. I have licenses to carry, issued from my home state (WA) and from NH. Of course, Maine does not honor licenses from either state :mad: There was enough time for me to apply for the Maine license. It required an application to be filled out, fingerprints (I think), and a passport photo. Then there was the $60 they wanted to charge me, at a time when I was out of work and money was very tight. I refuse to pay their fee to retain my rights!!

It just pissed me off and it still pisses me off. My background has been checked and my fingerprints are on file, but Maine still wants me to jump through their hoops so that I can legally carry concealed. I won't carry openly, since I am in a very prominent position (the best man) and I would likely scare some of the people there (her entire family is VERY liberal).

So... I will simply revolt, by being angry and by being unarmed. I know, that's not a very effective way to revolt, but I don't really have any choice.

I know I am not the first one here to go through things like this. I really feel for those out there who live in areas where the state refuses your right to carry. I'm just angry about this. I made a decision (months ago) to not apply for their license. It's too late to do it now (now that I have a steady income again). I hope nothing happens (of course), but it would be hard to live with myself if something were to happen. I will bring at least 1 gun on the trip, but it will remain in NH :(
 
If you're THAT stern on retaining your rights, enough to not pay a small permit fee, then worrying about upsetting a liberal shouldn't bother you. After all, it is your right and they'd surely understand.

Curious where the wedding is up here?
 
Gee, thanks for telling me that I'd "cry" :rolleyes: Are you suggesting that I just suck it up, because that's what the almighty gov't wants?

It's not just about the cost. It's about applying, paying, and being "allowed" to exercise one of my rights! There is nothing saying that they wouldn't hold up the application process, just because they are backed up or they feel like it. It doesn't matter to them... and try fighting them if that did happen. Again, I'm tired of jumping through hoops to get a rights-license.
 
The process in Arkansas can take weeks (six or more?) for them to complete, and requires that a class be taken. What cost me $40-60 in Washington state is costing me double here plus the inconvenience of taking off work for the class.

Not saying you shouldn't be angry, but it could be worse.

jm
 
...then worrying about upsetting a liberal shouldn't bother you. After all, it is your right and they'd surely understand.
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First of all, it is not about upsetting "A" liberal. I wouldn't be surprised if 1/5 of the attendance is strongly anti-gun. I'd imagine that probably another 1/3 would be indifferent to guns, but annoyed that I would think a wedding would be a place to carry. My brother's future wife would be annoyed at it, and I'm sure both of her parents would be very irritated. My date for the wedding knows I carry, but she would be annoyed to see me open carrying. I think more than half would be at least a little annoyed. Did you read the part where I mentioned that I am the best man? I'm saying that to suggest that I might be in a more noticable position than other guests.
 
I have family and friends in CA and visit at least once a year. I have 4 permits but of course CA refuses to recognize any.

I find it strange that am still married even though my marriage license was issued in a different state than where I now live, my driver's license is good in all 50 states, but a carry permit requires special acknowledgment which some states refuse.
 
Thank you SaxonPig. That is what I'm getting at.

I suspect that, in your situation (since you have no ability to obtain a license in CA), it is even more frustrating.
 
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I have family and friends in CA and visit at least once a year. I have 4 permits but of course CA refuses to recognize any.

I find it strange that am still married even though my marriage license was issued in a different state than where I now live, my driver's license is good in all 50 states, but a carry permit requires special acknowledgment which some states refuse.
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...particularly when your RKBA is the only one of those rights specifically enumerated in the Constitution, and the others aren't (unless they come in under the "penumbras" and "emanations", or some such crap).
 
So... I will simply revolt, by being angry and by being unarmed.
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Sorry - that is revolting (you not being able to be armed), but it is not a revolt (getting angry and complying). I do understand your point though, and the way that SaxonPig spelled it out really has to make one wonder in what kind of a country are we living. It is pretty infuriating that we live in a country wherein states can deny us our Constitutional rights and liberties.

All the best,
Glenn B
 
I wish the permit was that cheap here. In Mi. it costs close to $500.00 for the initial application, and only a little cheaper to renew.
 
Where's the wedding being held? IANAL, but if it's at your brother's (or his future wife's) home, you may not need a license to carry there as you would in a public place, off your own (or rather his own) private property.

Maybe have the wedding in VT? The whole notion of having to get license to exercise a right is disgusting to me as well. So I like VT and AK's gun laws...
 
Damn, I think I paid like 25$ total for my CCW permit. PA is not so bad on certain things.
 
Are you suggesting that I just suck it up, because that's what the almighty gov't wants?
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Well what else can you do leagaly? Sucks but there just isnt much you can do as a single person. Get a few thousand to back you up now you have some political power and might get you listened to.
 
Laws ,fees,permits etc........ If I feel I need to carry, I do. I dont advertise it. I play it down and do what I feel I have to do to protect myself and my family. The SIG might stay home, simply because of the chance of being detected carrying it BUT the little P-11 Kel-tec is another story. So I have to drop from a .40 to a 9mm. Big Deal. In my book it will always be better to be judged by twelve than carried by six.
 
...it is not a revolt (getting angry and complying). I do understand your point though...
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Yep, it's not much of a "fight back" to just be mad :) This is THR, so I did not want to get into a debate about carrying while against the law.

Where's the wedding being held? IANAL, but if it's at your brother's (or his future wife's) home, you may not need a license to carry there as you would in a public place, off your own (or rather his own) private property.

Maybe have the wedding in VT? The whole notion of having to get license to exercise a right is disgusting to me as well. So I like VT and AK's gun laws...
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The wedding location cannot be changed, certainly not at this point. It is in York, ME, not at a private residence. Still, it was a good point.

Well what else can you do leagaly? Sucks but there just isnt much you can do as a single person. Get a few thousand to back you up now you have some political power and might get you listened to.
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I understand what you are saying, but I respectfully disagree. You can get others to support your cause without thousands out of your own pocket. It is slow to go that way. I think there are ways to raise awareness (marches, assemblies, letters to members of congress, etc.) when you and others feel that change is necessary. Just some thoughts.

Laws ,fees,permits etc........ If I feel I need to carry, I do...
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I have put a lot of thought into that. However, this is THR, so I didn't want to suggest a discussion on whether I should do that. I will probably have my gun "close by", in accordance with the law. Maybe that means it will be locked in a car or whatever. I will have to study up and see what my options are.
 
As a California resident and not a high party official, I can't get a CCW for any reason. Just not possible here.

I agree, there should be no cost for a CCW. I'd love to see the Bill of Rights honored, but I suppose that's asking too much.
 
Pistol permit application process in NY costs over $300, at my rough estimate, and by the time I've submitted my application, which can still be denied at the whim of the judge, I'll probably be $600 in the hole for this project.
 
"However, this is THR, so I didn't want to suggest a discussion on whether I should do that."

Too late, that ship has sailed.

Was it Ted Nugent who said, "The Second Amendment is the only gun permit I need"?

Sorry, another Cali resident weighing in here. It's just an automatic knee-jerk reaction for me to take this stance.
 
It's about applying, paying, and being "allowed" to exercise one of my rights!
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I don't see why Maine's requirement upsets you, but WA and NH's did not. You have already applied and paid twice to be allowed to exercise your right. I agree it shouldn't be this way, but until enough people get together and change things it is the world we live in. Suck it up, get the ME license, and be glad your brother doesn't live in the Peoples Republic of Illinois!
 
It may be worth a try. I have a Maine permit, have renewed it once, and I think the turnaround was fairly quick. It may also be worth a call to the issuing agency (Maine State Police) to ask their advice. I have had to talk to a couple of these agencies (fingerprint issues), and have found really nice helpful people there.
 
The cost of the licence is to offset the cost to the state to do an investigation for the permit. Right? Then why does Oklahoma charge 100$ for a 5 year permit and 200$ for a 10 year permit.
I'm not bitchin about the cost (cheap compaired to some) just a question...
 
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