Annoyed at people take pictures/videos of other people's shooting!

[Kenneth Lew]

In the past few months, I've seen a huge increase in people bringing digital cameras/video recorders when them to the local ranges. That does not bother me, however what bothers me is that these individuals take pictures of other individuals w/o their permission when they are shooting or their gear. I've even spotted some photos of my junk on the net claimed by the individual that it was theirs.

One really annoying individual had the nerve while I was talking to another person, started to take pictures of my machine gun and to grab it by the suppressor end (after I shot about 500 rds) and proceeded to move it to get a better shot (big NO, NO WITH ME). I think he burned his hand because he proceeded to yell at me why I did not warn this moron about the heat and he was going to sue, blah, blah.

 

[dracphelan]

This goes along with the general decrease in consideration of others throughout the USA. More and more people only think of themselves.

 

[Devonai]

Is there any reason why you can't take it up with the range operators?

 

[OH25shooter]

Strange you should post this incident. The other day I was shooting at my indoor range and noticed a flash behind me. By the time I finished the magazine and turned around...gone. Very interesting. I wonder if it's anti-gun people going to post photos on the internet. I'll have to ask the RO if it's permitted.

 

[Sistema1927]

Let me see if I understand this:

Some guy handles your firearm, without your permission, and then threatens to sue you because he gets burned by the hot barrel?

What a maroon.

 

[rbernie]

The ranges that I frequent disallow cameras or video equipment. Having said that, every now and again it happens and nobody says much about it.

 

[Taurus 66]

If I ever saw someone with a video camera at the range, that's when I'd pack up and go. I don't want to be on someone's website in video format when he didn't even ask permission to shoot video of me in the first place.

 

[Lupinus]

only seen it once or twice

Now at a machine gun shoot or something like that is one thing (propane tanks hit with full auto fire from about a hundred different guns all at the same time is rather photogenic if I do say so myself )

But just regular old out to the range type days is a no no.

 

[Kenneth Lew]

Well pretty much I can spot these individuals a mile away. You start to see them enter a staging area, take a huge amount of pictures of their firearms and themselves. Go to the firing line and show off their shooting abilities, then proceed to talk about the latest Tacticool stuff floating around. Look around and comment/takes pictures of other invididuals. Then the kicker, takes pictures of their shooting scores and do some Charlie's Angels pose and leave.

Later on that night, I see the pictures (on a few occassions) on the net talking about their range session.

 

[Clipper]

...Touch someone's firearm without permission around here, and you're liable to draw back a bloody stump...

 

[Eleven Mike]

I thought that was just Oleg.

...Pointless elipses...

 

[El Tejon]

Outside of Knob Creek, I have never seen such behavior.

Of course, nowadays video cameras come in boxes of cornflakes. My phone has a camera (and makes lattes). Maybe you kids, with your long hair and rock n roll, and your proliferation of cameras makes this behavior acceptable.

 

[sm]

Well,
I have only been to a "offical" shooting range once in about 10 yrs now. This one folks are too busy buying skills and targets to pay attention to folks. I went to "coach" , a student, I may or may not have "schooled" and left with with cigar box, and it did not contain school supplies either.

See back in the day, a few ranges and such were being snooped on in regard to ordinances. Had folks bringing in recorders and such, besides cameras.

We had to crack down and fight back. I/We played the game better than they did. I mean for instance the folks lived under the flight path of a airport, and they had more dB's when Hee-Haw was on than the shooting going on miles down the road. Yes we recorded the stupid TeeVee with Hee-Haw blaring from the street.

I like this Civil Disobedience bit...

Then the boys with letters for agency names got to snooping, all this Clinton gonna save a village idiot, and other political games. We had BTDT before too.

So Respect was earned, might mean you needed someone to speak on your behalf before we warmed up to you had some problems with folks getting set up, even men-folk guilty of running around on wives - setting up the wife club member...we don't take kindly to folks messing with our kind - especially our women.

Now videos we made to assist in teaching shooters, let them see themselves shooting to assist in teaching. We had our picture taking for club events, and get togethers, the folks, kids, dogs, a kid getting grandpa's gun handed down to you...

We didn't let the press come in, unless invited, and we have been known to not be there when they showed up.

We are nice folks - we ain't stupid. We know Tyranny will pull fast ones.
So we pull our own - just first and faster.

Bunch of us broke away, we ain't been to a "offical range" in years.

We got a bit ticked off about "supposed" folks on our side going " won't come for my duck gun, black guns are evil, take'em all".

Got real ticked when some of these same "supposed" gun folks got to snooping, on some other disciplines, like IDPA, IPSC and such, filming and ...we got the film, we got the cameras too, and that bunch was blackballed, kicked out out clubs for selling / attempting to sell us out.

Had a run of "letter agency" folks snooping too. Gun shows more local, some had cameras, taking pictures and taking down liense plates. Got a bit heated around one area, some of us got smarter. We showed up in taxi cabs, and just went around tossing down a "business card" with "Hello Mr, ATF" - they knew, we knew.

All planned out, get about a dozen taxis to show up, hard to follow them all...
then again who says we left in the 3 taxis we arrived in?

See I have no problem with Oleg and folks doing what they do. Respected folks, parents, families and clubs doing what they do...

Now them Tyranny types can go pound gunpowder up orfices and sneeze for all I care.

Might explain why I don't go some places local either...

Oh them PETA folks get real ticked when you take Polarids of them keying cars and send 'em letters with all the stuff they talk about - stuff you sat there as dumb as a brick and listened to in a meeting.

Eyes get real big when they show up to take pictures at a range - and you have them on Polarid keying cars.

They were escorted out and off the property real nice.

Common sense , Courtesy, and Cover your own butt.

 

[Librarian]

I've taken some pictures at various ranges, but I check with the RO, and if it's OK with management, I take pictures of my stuff, and my party. Taking pictures of others without permission is rude.

 

[Cromlech]

People who would like to take photos or videos at the range should try to arrange a day for that kind of thing, so they know that everyone there that day will be willing.

I mean, you wouldn't go Bowling and start snapping photos of other peoples children while you are there.

 

[69cougar]

i have seen it done but thats when we shoot BP Rifles for competion at a civil war reenactments but any other time its just rude.

 

[Soybomb]

If someone were taking pictures of me I would discuss it with the photographer and the person in charge of the range. I shoot on private property. If you're on public land you're fair game for a photographer. If someone were taking pictures of their friend shooting and I was in the background I'd loosen the shiny foil beanie and be happy that some people like shooting enough that they're taking pictures that they'll probably show off to their friends and maybe use them to get someone else to start shooting.

 

[Rabid Rabbit]

Theres a bunch of way to uptight people on this thread. I agree about handling equipment, but geeze people, maybe they wanted to show others what a match/range/shooters look like. I've done it to show my wife what she missed at a three gun match.

 

[HerrWolfe]

Instead of commenting about it, why not say something to the rude person. And it can be more than just ignorance, for which one needs to be careful. I do not like anyone having my photograph wherever I may be, and would quickly speak up in that regard. I have noticed some folks doing this for scenery, and turn my back in an obvious manner to prevent being in the photograph, and they usually get the hint. A few times I have had to get right into their faces. OK to be blatantly rude back to them but must stop short of assault (darn it).

 

[TheArchDuke]

I take pictures but I ALWAYS ask permission and blur out the faces and serial numbers.

I usually only snap photos of my friends that I'm with though.

 

[50 Freak]

I'm guilty of bringing people (with their cameras) to the range.

But we only took pics of ourselves and not others. My buds were these two hot chicks, one a nubie and the other used to be a weapons instructor for the IDF.

Imagine two young (mid 20's) hot chicks shooting ARs, AKs and my 50.

Funny thing, my buddy (the ex IDF weapons instructor) said she like the AK much more than the AR. Hummh.......

Agreed with the above poster of Americans not being considerate of others....One time I will always remember....I was in Thailand at a temple. There were monks and Thais worshipping in front of a large Golden Buddha statue (very serene, religious situation). Anyways, we were observing quietly when a couple of stupid Americans (with their cameras) walked to the front and started snapping away at all the worshippers and statue and one even had the audacity to ask a bother a worshipper to move his head a certain way. Well, when the other Americans (could have be English also) saw this, it was a freaking mass exodus to the front for a photo op. My wife and I left the temple real quick. First time ever I've been ashamed of being American.

 

[Hoploholic]

Theres a bunch of way to uptight people on this thread. I agree about handling equipment, but geeze people, maybe they wanted to show others what a match/range/shooters look like. I've done it to show my wife what she missed at a three gun match

That is fine, and if their intent is honest they should not have a problem with showing a little respect and asking before snapping. Being sneaky about it and bolting as soon as they get what want would lead me to believe that something untoward is going on. The anti-gun culture has been around long enough and so firmly entrenched into the legion of sheeple in our society they these same folk actually believe they are doing God's work by spreading untruths and disinformation concerning the true gun culture. It is highly possible to take a picture of an extremely safe range session, take that picture out of context and lead people into believing they are seeing something other than what the picture actually represents. So yeah, I would get upset if someone is recording my range time on just this principle. There are a number of others that are also more nefarious. I am sure you can imagine where this might. Might I be overly "uptight"? Perhaps, but times dictate that one cover ones butt at all times...we are in a cultural war folks. In closing, just because I am paranoid does not mean that they are not out to get me.

I am not singling you out RR...your post was just the nearest to the bottom of the stack. Nothing personal is intended and I do not address you directly.

 

[NineseveN]

I take pictures at the range just about every time I go there. I take pictures of my gear, and my GF shooting or whatever. I wouldn't take somoene else's pic without asking, but I wouldn't ask anyone if they thought it was okay for me to take pics of me and mine.

I enjoy photography, I enjoy shooting, I like my gear, my GF is hot...I take pics, therefore I am.

 

[countertop]

When the NRA HQ Range was opened up to the general public (don't get me started, still really pissed off about it) they put up big signs on the doors and everywhere else that cameras and video taping are not permitted. The reason was precisly because they didn't want to anti's coming in and filming the stuff - but also some customers complained.

Since the signs have gone up, I've actually taken pictures there of people shooting but I usually do it at odd hours when the range is pretty empty, ask the range master (most know me, if I don't know the folks working, I don't ask) and then ask everyone on the range.

My experience in life is that a little curtesy and manners goes a heck of a long way. Its that more bees with honey thing my grandfather used to say.

 

[chrisbob]

I haven't been to a public range in 10 yrs for this reason. To many people that don't respect the others around them. I go to a private club/range. Members treat each other w/ respect never touch anothers property unless invited or given permission. I take pictures of my own but no one else. The one exception is at sponsored shoots where everyone knows there will be cameras. Pictures are posted on the clubs web site with permission of the participants.