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Since guns and knives go together like ammo and cammo I thought many of our members would like to see what the US Customs folks are up to in preparing to ban importation of pocket knives many of us carry day after day. If they have their way they'll reclassify assisted opening knives (Kershaw, SOG, etc.) as switchblades in spite of having accepted them as common pocket knives for years. http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=453703

Since the definition of "arms" includes non firearms in many state constitutions this should be interesting.

We made a big fuss over the issue of Georgia Arms having surplus brass reclassified out of the market, I hope we can make a bigger noise over Customs wanting to take away our pocket knives.

http://www.kniferights.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=76&Itemid=150
US ATTEMPTS TO RE-DEFINE SWITCHBLADES – COULD MAKE MANY POCKET KNIVES ILLEGAL PDF Print E-mail

U.S. Customs has proposed revoking earlier rulings that assisted opening knives are not switchblades. The proposed new rule would not only outlaw assisted opening knives its broad definition could also easily be interpreted to include one-handed opening knives and even most other pocket knives.

Note that customs interpretation of the Federal Switchblade Act forms the basis for national, state and even local law and judicial rulings in many cases. The effect is NOT limited to just imports.

Knife Rights and AKTI are formulating a response and will each be asking for an extension to the ridiculously short 30 day comment period. PLEASE DO NOT WRITE JUST YET. Within the next week we will post a form letter and talking points for your use. We will then need you to write and MAKE YOUR VOICES HEARD!

In the meantime download the 63 page document and read it for yourself.
 
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$0.02

Not to be all obvious or anything, but as technology improves we see ergonomic and ease-of-use improvements all over the place.

Campbells Soup now comes in zip-tab cans, as do certain packagings of single-serving tuna. These are now called "assault cans" because, no matter what their purpose and use, anything easy to open is dangerous.

Umbrellas are being scrutinized for restrictions because, with the advent of one-handed, spring-assisted opening, you could put someone's eye out.

My point? Just this:

HOW SOMETHING OPENS HAS NO BEARING ON ITS USE OR PURPOSE.

So get with the Knife Rights people and help them point out that the emperor has no clothes on this issue.

 
Swiss Army Knives will be next.

Then multi-tools.

Too much functionality for the public's safety.
 
Multi Function Tools

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Too much functionality for the public's safety.

Who "needs" 50 plus uses for a tool that includes a kniife blade, or a screwdriver?
 
Might be a run, but the good older ones are harder to find now anyways. So the cheap imports that sell for $3-5 will skyrocket to $15 or $20 no doubt.
 
workingstiff said:
Who "needs" 50 plus uses for a tool that includes a kniife blade, or a screwdriver?
Probably a remark made in a joking manner but I'm a bit disturbed that there are many voters out there who feel the need to dictate what people need. Certainly a dangerous precedent that would set. Deciding what people need and all.
 
How does the Customs service have any say on what happens within the borders of the US? Their mandate is protect our borders, not govern what goes on inside.
 
preparing to ban importation of pocket knives many of us carry day after day. If they have their way they'll reclassify assisted opening knives (Kershaw, SOG, etc.) as

They have say on importation.
 
Agreed, ArfinGreebly.

So using similar logic, we should also require by law that all computers be unplugged from the wall when not in use to slow down hackers?

:barf:
 
I will be writing letters and making calls. I would hate to think that my 3" knife would someday be a felony.
 
KnifeRights and AKTI are coordinating efforts to counter this current bit of stupidity.

Go to the KnifeRights website for sample letters and addresses to try to prevent this newest attempt to strip you of your rights.

http://www.kniferights.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=81&Itemid=1

Be sure to send this letter through your congresscritter's website. If this is approached like the Georgia Arms foolishness there's a good chance that we'll have a favorable outcome, but if we all sit on our hands and leave it up to someone else to do you'll be looking at saying goodbye to more of what you have, your freedom.
[INSERT DATE]

[INSERT NAME and MAILING ADDRESS]

Dear Senator or Representative (as appropriate) [INSERT Member of Congress' Name]

RE: U.S. Customs & Border Protection Proposed Revocation of Ruling Letters and Revocation of Treatment Relating to the Admissibilty [sic] of Certain Knives with Spring-Assisted Opening Mechanisms

[PERSONALIZE THE FOLLOWING FIRST PARAGRAPH per Knife Rights' Communicating with Congress suggestions]

I/My wife/husband /family and I live in [INSERT CITY and STATE] and I am an owner and daily user of folding knives which would be made illegal under the above referenced proposal.

I use my pocket knives every day in my business/to make a living/my work/at home and work/recreationally/etc.

and/or

I own [INSERT NUMBER] folding knives that would be made illegal under this proposal.

and/or

I have passed along to my son folding knives that I first received from my father that would be made illegal under this proposal.

[ETC. ETC. ETC. Make the above paragraph your own, tell your own story about why your pocket knives are important in your life.]

I am extremely distressed and adamantly oppose this CBP proposal which would have an effect far beyond that suggested in the title of the proposal, which would be bad enough even if it only did that. This proposal would make it illegal for me and 40 million fellow law-abiding Americans to own a simple pocket knife. It would also cost this country dearly in destroyed businesses, lost jobs and ruined families. Thousands of jobs and billions of dollars would be lost. CBP appears to not have considered the consequences of this unnecessary, inappropriate and even illegitimate action. Since CBP is not required to consider the effects of their actions, only Congress or the courts can rein them in. If left to the courts, the industry and our rights will be devastated and America will lose much, regardless of who wins the legal fight.

I appeal to you to intervene to prevent CBP from taking this foolhardy and uncalled for action. Please immediately contact DHS Secretary Napolitano and Jayson P. Ahern, Acting Commissioner, U.S. Customs and Border Protection, and demand that they cease this assault on me and millions of other law-abiding knife owners at an extraordinary cost to our great nation. At a minimum, please demand they extend the unduly short 30-day comment period for this absurd proposal by 120 days to allow I and others to marshal the millions of knife owners who will oppose this effort. Please also insist they allow us to submit comments via email, which they have so far refused to, do. Their refusal to accept emails adds unneeded expense to those who deserve to be heard and discourages many citizens from commenting, no doubt their reason for doing so.

The definition of what is a switchblade has been clear and settled since the Federal Switchblade Act was passed in 1958 and has been reaffirmed by many years of legal decisions. The Act is very clear that a switchblade must have an activating button on the handle. Without a button, it is not a switchblade and this has been upheld by numerous cases on many levels over the years. CBP's convoluted reasoning in their proposal simply doesn't meet the common sense test.

CBP's reaching beyond the clear language of the Act in making this proposal is particularly questionable and irreconcilable because it flies in the face of virtually unanimous recent state court rulings (including several cases in California, Texas, Illinois and Michigan) where the issue of assisted-opening knives has already been decided in favor of the existing clear interpretation, that they are not a switchblade. For CBP to ignore this overwhelming existing body of law is inexcusably arrogant and borders on a reckless abuse of their power. For them to suddenly do an about face is akin to moving the goalposts after starting the game, and then completely changing the rules of the game besides, making every play ever devised illegal.

Beyond that, their significantly expanded interpretation of gravity and inertia knives, also included in the Act, would clearly make one-hand opening pocket knives illegal and according to industry sources, 80% of pocket knives sold today are one-hand or assisted openers. Beyond even that clearly excessively broad seizure of authority, we know from past unfortunate experience in many cases over the years that this sort of misinterpretation leads to potential abuse by law enforcement where even the most simple and innocuous Boy Scout folding pocket knife can be opened one-handed by use of dangerous and unsafe tricks, so that these too would be covered under this expanded federal definition. This ruling would therefore make almost all pocket knives subject to being considered switchblades.

The impact of this CBP ruling would go far beyond just imported knives because the "agency determination" will be used by domestic courts and law enforcement to determine what is a "switchblade" under both federal and state laws. Many states do not themselves define switchblades and simply rely on the federal definition and interpretation, which is only found in rulings by CBP. Since interstate commerce in switchblades is prohibited, except under very limited conditions, simply driving across a state line with a pocket knife in their possession would make someone a federal felon.

Knifemaking in the U.S. has enjoyed a renaissance in the past decade or two as the genius and innovation of American knifemakers, designers and manufacturers has created a booming and vital American industry with thousands of exciting new knife designs that improve the function, utility and safety of the lowly pocket knife, one of man's oldest and most useful tools. Millions of Americans have responded to this innovation, creating a vibrant industry. For the most part these are family owned businesses that are American success stories, the core of America's economic strength. This proposal by CBP would destroy all that for no good reason. They don't need a bailout; they just need to be left alone to prosper.

The knife industry tells us they employ nearly 24,000 Americans and have a nearly 6 billion dollar annual impact on our nation's economy. If this proposed ruling is allowed to stand, thousands of jobs will be lost at the direct cost of billions of dollars. That doesn't even begin to cover the enormous cost to the country of those that would become unemployed, the ruined businesses, foreclosed homes, years of litigation by both industry against CBP and who knows how many criminal trials and appeals as law-abiding Americans fight this abusive attempt to take away their knives, as well as many other devastating unforeseen effects of this ill-considered proposal. Thousands of American citizens' lives would be ruined. The cost would be tragically huge, more so because it is neither necessary, nor desired by the vast majority of Americans.

Please stop this ill-conceived effort by CBP before is puts thousands of more Americans out of work and destroys one of America's oldest industries, causing great harm to our nation and many American families. This nation has many more important issues that need our attention and energy in this time of crisis.

Sincerely,

[INSERT SIGNATURE]

[INSERT NAME]
 
hso,
excellent post.

May I also suggest informing LEO, FireFighters, EMTs and other First Responders to this matter.

Many of these professionals use one hand assist knives in their work, such as cutting seat belts.

If these professionals were to write and cite actual situations where one hand assist was of need to save life or limb, perhaps some common sense would prevail over tyranny.


Also Health Safety OIfficers for companies also often require a one hand assist and locking knife for Employee Safety. These req's/ reg's are in company policies.

So here is another common sense versus tyranny perspective to use.



I cannot find the bookmark of events, of real life situations of Climbers, Search & Rescue, Police, Firefighters, EMTs, using knives, which one could use as a common sense and real life example in a letter.

While not a one hand assist, or locking knife the Case Peanut was the knife used by a Ortho Surgeon to remove the leg of a lady trapped in the Oklahoma City Bombing.
His Ortho tools would not cut, and could not be employed in such tight quarters.
His freehand sharpened Peanut worked, and saved that ladies life.
 
A few pictures I made to address the idiocy of the argument.

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They are arms, protected under the Second Amendment, and they are tools, lifeless and actionless, requiring a user to put them to use.
 
I almost wrote a letter to the Office of International Trade yesterday, but I put it off, thinking that this wasn't really my fight. Then I did a little research on the origins of knife control laws and came to the conclusion that they originated from the exact same misguided principles that brought us our current gun-control laws. If we let them get away with this, it won't be long before they "reinterpret" rules for the importation of firearms.

These people share the same goals with the Chuck Schumers and Carolyn McCarthys in our government. Please take some time to write a letter, you WILL feel better because you are doing your part. If you want another template other than the KnifeRights form letter, please feel free to use my letter as a guide. I also have written my Representative and my two Senators, so hopefully with a few thousand more letters we can show Napolitano that we aren't going to stand for them changing definitions that are fifty years old to suit their agenda. :fire:

U.S. Customs and Border Protection
Office of International Trade
Regulations and Rulings
Mint Annex
799 9th Street N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20229

Attn: Intellectual Property and Restricted Merchandise Branch

RE: PROPOSED REVOCATION OF RULING LETTERS AND REVOCATION OF TREATMENT RELATING TO THE ADMISSIBILTY [sic] OF CERTAIN KNIVES WITH SPRING-ASSISTED OPENING MECHANISMS

To Whom It May Concern:

My letter is in regards to your proposed rule change that is referenced above. I oppose the proposal referenced above. I respectfully request an extension of the comment period to greater period than simply 30 days. I also wish to request that your agency accept commentary regarding the rule change via email.

By redefining what constitutes a switchblade you will put the lives of numerous firefighters, EMTs, Police Officers, and numerous other first responders that depend on assisted opening knifes on a daily basis to save the lives of others at risk.

The Federal Switchblade Act was passed in 1958; it clearly defined what is and what is not a switchblade. The assisted opening knifes that are being imported now are very clearly NOT switchblades. As a law-abiding citizen your attempt to make an end-run around the legislative process sickens me.

To reiterate, in no uncertain terms, I am totally opposed to the proposed rule change referenced above and demand both an extended comment period and the ability to submit comments via email. I will be contacting my elected representatives to look into the shenanigans that your office is recklessly engaging in.



Sincerely,

Animal Mother
 
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To show you how absurd this is here's SOG's "Power Assist" multitool.
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Looks nothing like a switchblade. Operates nothing like a switchblade (see any button to push?). Customs would ban it from importation from the factory in Japan if they have their way because it has two blades that employ SOG's SAT system.
 
Since I was 12 years old, I've been opening my Buck 110 folding hunter one handed, with or without gloves, either hand. It's not a switchblade.

Parker
 
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