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U.S. Government Trying To Take Away Your Pocket Knives!

Discussion in 'Activism' started by Maximum1, Jun 7, 2009.

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  1. Maximum1

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    The U.S. Government is after your Pocket Knives! In a sneak attack, U.S. Customs has proposed revoking earlier rulings that assisted opening knives are not switchblades. The proposal would not only outlaw assisted opening knives, its overly broad new definition of a switchblade would also include all one-handed opening knives and most other pocket knives!

    Knife Rights was formed three years ago because we knew it was only a matter of time before there would be a major attempt to take away our knives, as has occurred in England, Europe and elsewhere. Little did we guess that the first major battle at a national level wouldn't come head on, but with government bureaucrats trying to sneak it by everyone, avoiding a more conventional legislative battle, which they know they'd likely lose.

    Knife Rights is geared up to help win this fight, but we cannot do it without your help, your emails, your letters. The fight can only be won if we raise enough hell that they are convinced they will not get away with this. YOU are the most effective arrow in our quiver, the most powerful cartridge in our gun.

    Click below for more on this knife grab and to find out how you can make a difference.

    http://www.kniferights.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=81&Itemid=1

    We need you to write CBP NOW!

    Click here for a Model Letter you can send to CBP.

    However, the reality is that CBP isn't required to listen to our demands, but they do have to answer to Congress. After you send a letter to CBP, giving them notice they are not going to sneak this by us, the next step is to inundate Congress with emails and letters.

    If you want to be free to carry your pocket knives in the future, you need to write your Senators and Representative TODAY!


    Knife Rights is geared up to help win this fight, but we cannot do it without your help, your emails, your letters. The fight can only be won if we raise enough hell that they are convinced they will not get away with this. YOU are the most effective arrow in our quiver, the most powerful cartridge in our gun.

    http://www.kniferights.org/
     
  2. xbox360

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    Do I need one? No. Do I want one? Oh yeah!
    first 2a attacks NOW KNIFES?? US GOV

    Us Gov wants to remove our knifes@ :banghead::mad::mad:




     
  3. hso

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    Folks,

    While there's a lot of hyperbole in what is being posted about this the fact is that the US Customs service is trying to change the definition of the common assisted opening pocketknife that you, your family and friends carry every day so that they can call it a switchblade and ban their importation into the US. :fire:

    There are discussions on this in NonFirearms Weapon, General and Legal and we've gotten several requests to open the discussions here in Activism.


    We've been able to get some impressive things done when we worked together.

    Go get'm.:evil:

    Right now we need to write, email and call our congresscritters and let them know that we oppose the Customs decision to redefine these common pocket knives as switchblades. This isn't one bit different than the attempt to redefine common firearms like the AR15 and the AK as somehow being the same as machine guns.

    Be civil. Ranting doesn't get anyone's attention like a calm well written brief note. Also, be brief and state clearly at the beginning of the note that you oppose US Customs current attempt to change the definition of the common assisted opening pocket knife to being equivalent of a switchblade.

    Explain that you, or your friends/family, carry one of these knives that Customs would change the definition of so they could ban importation of it and scores of others just like it.

    Point out that redefining these common pocket knives as switchblades after years of treating them as common pocket knives would harm the US economy taking money out the pockets of small and large retailers, wholesale distributors, US companies having the knives made and imported, and ultimately US citizens who work for these companies. This is not acceptable during these hard economic times.

    Explain that these knives were invented here in the US and that they are as natural an evolution in design as the introduction of the starter motor was to the original hand crank automobiles our grandfathers and great grandfathers had to deal with. There is nothing more sinister about them than putting a key in the ignition of a car instead of cranking by hand.

    Send these letters to the US Customs as well (remember we have just until June 21 to get them in).

    Here's the link to congress.org so you can get addresses and email to send your letter protesting this circumventing of congresses authority to create legislation.

    Now bury them in complaints about this.
     
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  4. hso

    hso Moderator Staff Member

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    BTW, Activism isn't like General or Legal or any other forum on THR. It is not a discussion forum. Instead it is a "workshop" where plans in support of RKBA and the 2A are provided so members can work to restore our lost right to bear arms and preserve those under assault.

    Extraneous posts get deleted to keep the workshop moving.
     
  5. hso

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    Folks,

    We have until June 21 to make US Customs retreat from this decision. Just 6 more days!
    Ironically, the days leading up to Father's Day is one of the biggest knife sales periods in this country. How many of you remember giving your Dad a new knife in thanks for trying to raise you right?

    Let's honor our fathers, and our Founding Fathers, and make Customs and our elected officials hear our disgust at these sorts of stupidity! Write and mail a letter today telling them that changing the definition of knives we've owned for years to that of a switchblade is unacceptable.

    Keep it brief, keep it civil and clearly say up front that you are OPPOSED to Customs' attempt to redefine knives currently commonly in use as switchblades.

    You can find the addresses for your specific congresscritters at http://www.kniferights.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=77&Itemid=150

    US Customs can be reached -

    U.S. Customs and Border Protection
    Office of International Trade
    Regulations and Rulings
    Mint Annex
    799 9th Street N.W.
    Washington, D.C. 20229

    Attn: Intellectual Property and Restricted Merchandise Branch

    RE: PROPOSED REVOCATION OF RULING LETTERS AND REVOCATION OF TREATMENT RELATING TO THE ADMISSIBILTY [sic] OF CERTAIN KNIVES WITH SPRING-ASSISTED OPENING MECHANISMS
     
  6. Lightninstrike

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    Wrote my senator.
     
  7. hso

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    Lightninstrike,

    Could you post your letter so others could get an idea of what to send?
     
  8. hso

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    http://akti.org/

    AKTI Opposes U.S. Customs' attempt to classify assisted-opening
    knives and all one-hand opening knives as switchblades.

    Customs' proposal will make criminals of 35.6 million Americans
    The definition of a switchblade or automatic knife has been clear and explicit in federal law
    since 1958. There have been several state court cases in California, Texas, Illiinois and
    Michigan on the issue of assisted-opening knives. Every judge in every case has ruled they are
    not switchblades because they do not possess an activating button on the handle.

    In fact, AKTI' s bill on the Texas governor's desk now clarified their statute, reaffirming the 50-
    year old federal definition, and clearly distinguishing one-hand openers and assisted-openers
    from knives classified as switchblades or automatics.

    Be warned … AKTI fears that all folding knives will be at risk. U.S. Customs’ proposal indicates
    it is directed at only the importers of assisted-opening knives. However, the language used in
    their revocation document is so broad and uses virtually every term ever applied to any knife that
    opens with one hand. We fear that they are attempting to bypass the will of Congress and that
    once they succeed in getting assisted-openers defined as switchblades, they could move
    against all folding knives. These include multi-tools, traditional pocket knives, one-hand
    openers, and assisted-openers.

    If you want to view a video of what AKTI fears about this situation and about your being branded
    a criminal if you carry a folding knife, go to … http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5KINtCajwI

    AKTI's Knife User Data documents that at least 35.6 million folding knife users would become
    de facto criminals if Customs has their way. AKTI's Talking Points tells you in simple language
    what Customs is really trying to do. Share these documents with other knife owners and your
    elected representatives at the federal and state level. . When you are write letters or emails on
    this issue, you can use this data.
    Read the U.S. Custom's
    Proposal 19 CFR Part 17

    Switchblade Knife Act

    Are switchblades legal
    in your state?

    AKTI's Knife User Data

    AKTI's Customs Talking
    Points


    Click for more
    information how you
    can help
    Save Our Knives
    Your Help is Needed!

    AKTI learned, at 5:00 p.m. Eastern time on June 10, 2009, that U.S. Customs has denied the
    AKTI request for an extension of the comment period.

    We must now ask our national lawmakers to help us. That should be
    the first letter you write.
    You can find out who your lawmakers are and their email addresses by going to …

    Find your congressional officials
    Review our communication suggestions

    This is the absolute # 1 action step you must take TODAY.
    Please use one of the following letters to email your lawmakers
    (You can also follow up with a copy sent via regular mail or fax to help reinforce your request. If
    you know the lawmaker, please call them. Even if you don’t know them, an assistant will make a
    note of your concern and convey it to the lawmaker.)

    Be sure to personalize your letters
    Individual Letter to Legislators as Word Document (.doc)
    Individual Letter to Legislators as Rich Text File (.rtf)

    Company Letter to Legislators as Word Document (.doc)
    Company Letter to Legislators as Rich Text file (.rtf)



    Now … if you have the time, please also voice your objections to U.S. Customs itself. You can
    only use regular mail to them. Your letter must be received in the Washington Customs
    office officially by June 21st (but that’s a Sunday, so shoot for June 20 or sooner).

    Address your letter to …

    19 CFR Part 177
    U.S. Customs and Border Protection
    Office of International Trade, Regulations and Rulings
    Attention: Intellectual Property and Restricted Merchandise Branch
    Mint Annex, 799 Ninth St. N.W.
    Washington, D.C. 20229

    Please send a copy of your email or letter to AKTI so we can keep track of totals. This will be
    powerful information that allows us to tell Customs we know how much opposition there is to
    their proposed action.

    While U.S. Customs has officially denied our request (on June 10) for an extension of the
    comment period, we believe that letters sent to them objecting to their proposed action would
    still be helpful. You can use the following short models. Please make sure they get to the U.S.
    Customs office in Washington, DC by Saturday, June 20 (Note that Customs will only accept
    letters sent via regular mail.)

    Be sure to personalize your letters
    Individual Response to Customs as Word Document (.doc)
    Individual Response to Customs as Rich Text file (.rtf)

    Company Response to Customs (as Word Document) .doc
    Company Response to Customs (as Rich Text File) .rtf

    Click for more information on how you can help Save Our Knives
     
  9. Lightninstrike

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    Letter

    hso, I did not keep a copy but it was short FWIW, here is the gist. I tend to write short and sort of compact letters.

    Started by referring to the specific issue:

    "Dear Senator Roberts,

    I am writing in reference to the proposal below.

    19 CFR PART 177
    PROPOSED REVOCATION OF RULING LETTERS AND
    REVOCATION OF TREATMENT RELATING TO THE
    ADMISSIBILTY OF CERTAIN KNIVES WITH
    SPRING-ASSISTED OPENING MECHANISMS

    I am not an attorney, but as I understand it the proposed rule change could eventually lead to redefining common, assisted opening pocket knives as switchblades. The bulk, as much as 80%, of the knives made, sold and owned in the US fall into this category. Aside from the obvious economic impacts, this proposal is a bad idea that does nothing to improve security. There is nothing sinister about an assisted opening knife. It is as natural an evolution for knives as replacing hand cranks with electric starters for automobiles. I strongly urge you to work to prevent this rule change.

    Thanks you for your time and service.

    My Name"

    Something like that. Not as good as your examples I am afraid but FWIW.
     
  10. hso

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    Ok, folks, Customs didn't pay any attention to the letters to them so now we need to get our congresscritters to kill funding for Customs to implement this change.

    Here's the scoop from Doug Ritter at Kniferights.org, but I encourage each of you to point out that Customs is making legislation, reserved to Congress, by redefining common pocket knives with no resemblance to switchblades as somehow being switchblades after years of acceptance of them as common pocket knives. Since Congress already has a law on the books clearly defining what a switchblade is how is it Customs' place to change the definition already codified by federal law? It isn't. Encourage your congressmen to not fund this change!

     
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    Done. Wrote letters to both of my Senators. (DeMint & Graham)
     
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    Wrote to both my senators today as well. Both are extreme liberal gun grabbers tho.
     
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    Immediate Action Needed: US Customs and Common Pocket Knives

    From Kniferights.org on the current effort on the part of US Customs to redefine common pocket knives as switchblades. Our only remaining option is to block funding to implement Customs' ruling to prohibit one-hand openers and assisted openers by redefining them as switchblades.

    This requires immediate action on our part.

     
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  14. Birdmang

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    I emailed my senators, thanks!
     
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    I just mailed both of mine (thanks Mr. Cornyn for supporting this). This Customs thing stinks!
     
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    Sent to both of mine on Sunday.
     
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    Here's a slightly different wording if you'd prefer.

     
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    And now it appears that opportunity knocks for us to change the definition of a switchblade in 15 USC 1244, the "Federal Switchblade Act", with an amendment to H.R. 2892 so that one hand openers and assisted openers are specifically defined as not being switchblades. This would federally protect one hand openers and assisted openers from being included in the definition of a switchblade.

     
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    Switchblades should be legal. Period.
     
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    Emailed both Colorado Senators
     
  21. Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow

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    Emails sent; thanks for the heads up; that couldn't possibly have been easier - everyone needs to do this. Just follow the link to find your Senate critters, then cut and paste the sample letter to the form!
     
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    Both of my Texas Sentors have been contacted!
     
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    Got my good ole Virginia boys real buzy today. Wonder if Webb and Warner have had time for lunch?
     
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    Remember that family can send the same letters. My wife made a slight modification to them and pasted it into the mail for our two senators.
     
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    Talking points.

    One hand operation is crucial for the disabled.

    Just because someone has only use of one hand does not mean they should suffer.

    How a blade is opened does not change the length, or use.

    At one point in time the Boys Scouts of America had an official switchblade knife that could be ordered at the District office for disabled boys or scoutmasters, this was before the days of political correctness and the fear of a blade because of how it is opened.
     
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