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January 23, 2003, Thursday

SECTION: COLUMN

LENGTH: 640 words

HEADLINE: Right to bear arms clung to by fearful Americans

BYLINE: By Dale Quinn, Mustang Daily

SOURCE: California Poly State U.

DATELINE: San Luis Obispo, Calif.

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Last fall, a sniper held the Washington, D.C., area in a grip of fear. One by one he fired at random victims, killing most of them with one shot to the head. The New York Times reported Thursday that the 17-year-old will be tried as an adult, leaving everyone to wonder what can drive a person so young to kill so recklessly.

But the United States is no stranger to tragedy. On April 20, 1999 two high school students brought high-powered guns to school and fired on their classmates, killing 12 students and three teachers before shooting themselves. Again, the American public was left wondering what could drive youth to such madness. In Michael Moore's film "Bowling for Columbine," he attempts to find the root of violence in the United States with specific reference to the Columbine massacre. He begins his documentary by exhibiting the ease with which one can obtain a gun, which exemplifies the glorification of arms in our gun culture. He also reaches deeper and argues that we are a nation of gun-toters because of fear: The fear of our neighbors.

When our forefathers drafted our Constitution, American society was radically different from today. The instability of the new nation, with an expanse of frontier on one side and an irate colonial empire on the other, led the forefathers to include the right to keep and bear arms in our Bill of Rights. Gun rights activists often argue that those who favor gun control defy the Constitution and go against the intent of our forefathers.

Perhaps we need to be reminded what the Second Amendment specifically states: "A well-regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Gun rights activists often forget about this first clause regarding a well-regulated militia. The reality is that the United States has ensured a secure global position (a ground invasion of the country is not likely) and the threat of the frontier, namely Native Americans, has been eradicated. In other words, the forces that led to the creation of the Second Amendment no longer exist.

So why do Americans cling so diligently to the right to bear arms? Hunters obviously need guns to practice their sport, but many gun owners are not hunters. With the exception of the few who own a gun for the violent overthrow of an unjust government, many own guns for protection from home invasion.

Houses today are modern-day fortresses. Tract houses are built within feet of each other with fences so high that a tall man can not see into his neighbor's yard. Citizens vacate city streets by nightfall. Parents teach their children never to talk to strangers. American culture is afraid. It's afraid that someone they don't know is going to pull a gun on them and steal the meager wealth they've accumulated.

What causes this fear? The United States does have the highest homicide rate of any industrialized nation but, statistically, a person is more likely to be killed by someone he or she knows than by a complete stranger. Many are quick to blame the media for plastering images of violence before us everyday. However, this fear goes deeper; it goes into a culture that clings to its material possessions and fears losing them more than anything else.

Which brings us back to Columbine. What could have possessed Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold to commit such a heinous crime? Pure evil, perhaps. Or perhaps their parents are responsible for neglecting their children. Perhaps school administrators should have identified the social structure at their school that isolates certain children. Perhaps the media should not glorify violence and sex. Or perhaps it was their last act of desperation against a culture that didn't accept them and had nothing to offer to them.
 
I wonder if he fights dragons and wears +5 armor?

does someone live near there, where they can easily write a letter to the editor explaining that "a well regulated militia, being necessary to a free state" and "the right of the people to keep and bear arms" are not conditionally related? and that in order to form "a well regulated militia" that "the people" must keep their RKBA?

what if they worded the first to say "a well informed public, being necessary to a free republic, the right of the press to free speech shall not be infringed"? would that mean that only an informed public has the right to free speech, or that the right to free speech creates the opportunity for the informed public to exist?

similarly, the right of the people to keep and bear arms creates the opportunity for them to create a well-organized militia.
 
... led the forefathers to include the right to keep and bear arms in our Bill of Rights...

The reality is that the United States has ensured a secure global position (a ground invasion of the country is not likely) and the threat of the frontier, namely Native Americans, has been eradicated. In other words, the forces that led to the creation of the Second Amendment no longer exist.
Too bad tax money is being wasted on educating Dale.

However, maybe they teach about the Apaches terrorizing the 13 states in 1789 or some such twaddle.

Here's a clue, Dale, and it has the value of SIXTEEN (16) inklings. The Constitution as ratified (and that includes the BOR to make it simple for you) protects the people from the new federal government, not the government from the people. It never could have been ratified without those amendments expressing limiting the power of government.

Here's another clue as a bonus. The history you're being taught has been rewritten by socialists who spurn the ideas of individual responsitility and opportunity. You're going to have to dig out true history for yourself....
 
Waitone,

I used to write for my university paper. Didn't ger paid anything....

Being a public idiot is strictly non-profit at that level. If you can get paid for it, that takes you out of the idiot category, I think.
 
Gun rights activists often forget about this first clause regarding a well-regulated militia.
I would go so far as to say that the two parts of the 2A are inextricably linked, in spite of the fact that the first part is not a condition for the second. I consider it to be an infringement upon my rights as an American that I do not have free access to the training and equipment with which a militia is properly regulated. If you decide to keep and bear arms, then you have the right to be regulated! Of course, I'm using a definition that is rather uncommon, but nobody reads history books anymore, so it doesn't matter. Anybody ever hear the term "regulate" used in reference to a clock or other piece of precision machinery?
 
Will someone be so kind as to tell the author of that tripe that his village just called and they want their idiot back!:banghead: :fire: :cuss:
 
There are certain things thuis youngster is saying that are absolutely correct and to knee jerk insult him and reject his ideas because of some correctible errors is wrong...

WildgoodtoseeourmessagegettingthroughAlaska
 
What could have possessed Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold to commit such a heinous crime? Pure evil, perhaps. Or perhaps their parents are responsible for neglecting their children. Perhaps school administrators should have identified the social structure at their school that isolates certain children. Perhaps the media should not glorify violence and sex. Or perhaps it was their last act of desperation against a culture that didn't accept them and had nothing to offer to them.

Isnt that what we have been saying for years???...note he does not give the Columbine Mantra..."the evil gun made me do it"...no! He balmes exactly who is to blame....

Someone should responsibly and without stupid rhetoric enlighten this kid..hes already on the right track!

WildthekidsalmostthinkingstraightAlaska
 
"A well-crafted pepperoni pizza, being necessary to the preservation of a diverse menu, the right of the people to keep and cook tomatoes, shall not be infringed."

I would ask you to try to argue that this statement says that only pepperoni pizzas can keep and cook tomatoes, and only well-crafted ones at that. This is basically what the so-called states rights people argue with respect to the well-regulated militia, vs. the right to keep and bear arms. – Bruce Tiemann
 
How is it that they claim I fear my neighbors, even though I support their right to own arms; the antis don't fear their neighbors, but want them to be disarmed?:scrutiny:
 
Which brings us back to Columbine. What could have possessed Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold to commit such a heinous crime? Pure evil, perhaps. Or perhaps their parents are responsible for neglecting their children. Perhaps school administrators should have identified the social structure at their school that isolates certain children. Perhaps the media should not glorify violence and sex. Or perhaps it was their last act of desperation against a culture that didn't accept them and had nothing to offer to them.

I'm sorry, but I fail to see how this conclusion has any thing to do with his premise of more gun control. Back to journalism 101, young man!
 
Houses today are modern-day fortresses. Tract houses are built within feet of each other with fences so high that a tall man can not see into his neighbor's yard.

Clearly this person has never owned a home - possibly never lived in one. Houses today are built like crap. Ours is built by a "reputable" nationally known builder and the workmanship is appalling. When we complained about it while it was being built, we were told "you should see how bad the house across the street is"

Citizens vacate city streets by nightfall. Parents teach their children never to talk to strangers. American culture is afraid. It's afraid that someone they don't know is going to pull a gun on them and steal the meager wealth they've accumulated.

Translation: whatever wealth you have, nobody wants, and if they want it, its not worth defending.

Wealth is a product of the work and time you put into work - you can never get that back. When you are robbed, your time is confiscated and that is akin to enslavement. This is why lethal force is appropriate for the protection of property.

Pure sophistry.
 
I don't think college papers pay $ for articles. It's part of their class work in journalism (creative story telling).

Next riot when they're buring down his dorm or his folks out of house & home, he'll see Jesus and wish he had a gun. Maybe the Raider Nation will spill over from San Diego?
 
The reality is that the United States has ensured a secure global position (a ground invasion of the country is not likely) and the threat of the frontier, namely Native Americans, has been eradicated.

Couldn't happen here. Our government isn't like the Nazis. Makes a good point for the wrong reason, at least for his position. Wonder if he thought about what he was writing? Most likely not.
 
Only one out of four articles in this week's opinion page at my university's school paper were liberal :D
 
Dang college kids.

Call me crazy, but I don't care about Kiebold and Harris' plight. My only concern is with myself and my own. I feel nothing for people who boo-hoo about their lives or that need attention so badly that they will slaughter innocent people. Do I care to understand them? No. My time is better spent figuring out how to make my wife happy, having good times with my loved ones, and making money. What makes a loser tick isn't on my agenda.
 
Didn't we just have thread about a guy in Texas that shot two intruders when they broke into his home in a gated, walled community? So much for the "house-as-fortress" argument? I am sure that this young writer will get an A from his proffessor for this little gem. He probably does not give a rats pitue one way or another about guns, the plight of H&K, or the condition of the nation he lives in.

J.Rhines
Seneca, Md
 
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