Another Horrible Tragedy

[obxned]

People dumb enough to fall for this stupid scheme are too stupid to own firearms. It is sad that they are not paid a realistic amount for these firearms though, as I'm sure some were valuable.

 

[BBQJOE]

So what percent do you think were criminals, who decided to give up the life of crime, and turned in their illegal gun for the lure of an easy fifty bucks?

 

[eric_t12]

Hmmm

I hope a civil suit comes out of all of this

 

[molonlabe28]

The next time my city's PD stages a gun buy-back, I am going to stand outside the facility with a fistfull of $20 bills and a sign indicating that I pay top dollar for quality guns.


I am not kidding - I have been planning this for a while.

I want guns on the street, not smelted or dumped in the river.

The PD needs to focus on getting criminals off the street, not guns off the street.

 

[ABTOMAT]

Guys try that now and then. I think most of them are usually run off by the police for interfering with official business. I'd be interested hear how you make out, though.

Also keep in mind that it's possible a gun you'd be buying was just used to off someone's crack dealer. Despite the large turnout of widows with their late husbands' service weapons, some of the folks who go to these buybacks are either dumping crime guns or ones that were recently stolen.

 

[Dorryn]

Update:

I submitted a letter to the Editor of the Buffalo News regarding the buyback. They wrote me back and told me that they would consider it for publication if I shortened it to 200 words. So I had to rewrite my 348 words of scintillating prose to fit their requirements and still communicate my frustration.

So I did so. Havent heard back yet. I wouldnt be surprised if they dont print it, however, as the Buffalo News tends to lean anti-gun. It was a 7-day spread in the paper about the "evils" of firearms, 3 years ago, that spurred me to get my CHL...

I also wondered, based on the article, how one woman was married, and her husband never bothered to show her how to remove ammo from a weapon... She showed up to a gun buyback with a loaded firearm because she had no idea how to clear it.

 

[atomd]

Yeah, we all know that violent criminals hate to be armed and really need the $50 for a gun they could sell for far more illegally to another criminal Yet another "feel good" demonstration that wastes money and does absolutely no good. Someone should be held accountable for wasting all that money. They could use that money to actually fight crime with instead of tricking the public into thinking they are fighting crime with it.

 

[george29]

I sort of got ADD on this thread, but I got the gist of some of it and we have these posts here every so often. We feel the 2nd threatened when stuff like this happens, but it really isn't, all it is as has been mentioned is the feel-good crowd getting together and getting a reporter to cover the event.

Personally speaking, this doesn't bother me a bit. In the wrong hands guns are destructive and dangerous and should never be owned by the type of people that would show up to this type of event. One Granny was totally in the right having found an illegal weapon that once belonged to a now gone family member and she has other little ones in the house.

Here in NM I can buy FTF without the bother of background checks, if I had the money I would do the same, wait untill my inventory got big enough and then get an FFL or work with one to sell them.

 

[svtruth]

The article

did not address the fact that the crime rate went down BEFORE the buy back.
It would be interesting to see if it goes down further right now.

 

[DoubleTapDrew]

They should fly a big banner over these things:
Gun Buyback: Arrive as a citizen, Leave as a subject! Trade in your rights for pennies on the dollar.

I thought this was kind of amusing:

Folks standing in line to turn in guns were willing to speak about their decisions to participate, but wanted to remain anonymous.

Gee I wonder why. Couldn't be since they are ripe for the picking now could it?

 

[Ala Dan]

Hells Bells

My community can stage all the "GUN BUY BACK PROGRAMS" they want to;
but they will NEVER, EVER see me standing in line~!

 

[ShooterMcGavin]

Quote:
Folks standing in line to turn in guns were willing to speak about their decisions to participate, but wanted to remain anonymous.

Gee I wonder why. Couldn't be since they are ripe for the picking now could it?

No, I highly doubt that is the reason. Those people are feel-good types. They are selling their guns because no harm will ever happen to them. They wouldn't use the gun for self-defense anyways.

I suspect it is because the program was advertised as being anonymous, and the people do not want to be associated with ever owning or touching a gun.

 

[Big Calhoun]

that sounds like the best stolen goods fence in the world

I was thinking along the same lines. That and probably the best way to dispose of weapon used in a crime AND get paid for it.

 

[The Deer Hunter]

Buybacks?

Since when was it the police's guns to begin with?

 

[RNB65]

So they collected 422 weapons that were either non-functional or owned by people who would never have used them for either self defense or criminal purposes and this somehow makes the city safer?

 

[Tin Gizel]

george29 - You make a good point. My gut instinct was to be all upset about this...but when you stand back and look at it, it's people voluntarily selling their guns to cops for money. I guess if they think $20-50 is more valuable to them than a gun, so be it.

I guess the real reason I'm upset is that I don't have the opportunity to stand before the cops and sift through what's being turned in to buy them first. That's the shame in it. These guns will either go home with a cop for free or be destroyed. I'm certain that even if 99% were junk, there'd have to be at least one that i'd be more than willing to offer up $50 bucks for....

 

[Jim K]

Big time theft, officially sanctioned and designed to steal from decent people. How much you want to bet that the guns the cops don't take home will be sold to the street gangs for twenty times what was paid for them, and the cops and city officials pocket the money?

Jim

 

[ECVMSparky]

(Dravur)About another of these gun buy backs. One of the cops told a reporter that they get to take the best stuff home and the rest is destroyed. Now, How the heck can I get in on that.

That's because cops are better than normal people.
They don't feel that they have to enforce the laws that they are sworn to uphold.
I've NEVER met one that isn't a overbearing, arrogant, egomaniacal badge heavy prick, and i've been working around them for years.

 

[MarkDido]

He soon realized they had hundreds of dollars worth of armed weaponry in their hands. Brown was impressed.

What the hell is "armed weaponry?"

Were the weapons armed with weapons?

 

[Blue4]

Sadly, in any "buy-back" or confication where large numbers of weapons are "turned in" and stored in anything short of a bank vault, at least 10 % or more of them are going directly into the black market via the people who are the collectors and protectors. On a national level, if say, 20 million guns were confiscated (by whom I can't imagine) it would constitue a gold mine for the underground marketeers. Two million guns for sale to the highest bidder. Has anybody spouting gun control ever given any thought to these sort of things? Not a chance.

 

[Caimlas]

And while Buffalo Niagara residents were described by Buffalo Mayor Byron W. Brown as the big winners because fewer illegal guns are now in the hands of criminals, at least one individual also won big.

The unidentified man surrendered nine guns and was paid $960, making him the biggest buyback participant.

I bet this was the only fella who fit the description of the gun owners most people would figure the "buy backs" would be targeted at - ie, a criminal. I'd be willing to wager that all of those guns were either crudely made guns made out of iron pipes (hey, $20 in part investment for $900 return? I'm in!) or they were his and/or his friends' firearms used in the commissioning of a crime/murder, and they wanted to put the money towards a non-dirty gun.

While most of these guns were junk, some were valuable.

You betcha! And you can also bet that, since these guns were all handed in with "no questions asked" that some of them might have gone off the books. "Hey Marv, we should buy a couple of those cash cards ourselves in case we come across a keeper!"

 

[TCUGLOCKER]

In response to the loss of all these guns I suppose I will have to go and buy a couple more this month. Damn these people are making it hard to keep a Karmic balance.

 

[Plink]

If we had those gun buybacks here, I'd be out buying every $10 non repairable gunsmith special that I could get my hands on. Might as well earn a nice "tax refund".

 

[wjustinen]

Amazing isn't it!!!

All these people standing around with (loaded) weapons, some of them the scariest things on the face of the earth - AKs, sawed offs, 9mm hi-cap pistols - and nobody got shot.

Downright unbelievable.

 

[yongxingfreesty]

wow, what a surprise.