Another Option For Car Carry

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My employer does not allow me to have a weapon in my car while on company property. Given the hours that I work and the areas I have to go through on my way home I had to figure something out. I solved my problem by taking a thick book I was not going to read again and hollowing it out. From the outside it looks like a big thick techical manual but on the inside it's all business. There's room for a full size 9mm and an extra mag. Anyone doing a cursory search of my vehicle would probably not think to look in there as their main focus would be glove box, trunk and under the seats. Missouri allows me to have a firearm concealed anywhere in the vehicle so it's not a big concern if I get pulled over. All I have to do is open the cover and I've got instant access. Don't have to worry about it digging into my side while driving either. Hiding in plain sight works. That and the fact I have not told anyone, even the pro-gun guys at work, about my little project.
 
The free Express Mail boxes you can get at any Post Office would work even better. Sandwich the pistol between two pieces of foam and seal it up. If you need it, just pull the zip-strip and there it is. They might look in the book, or more likely they might move it and dump the gun out on the ground. They won’t open your mail.
 
SOMEDUDE - "Anyone doing a cursory search of my vehicle would probably not think to look in there as their main focus would be glove box, trunk and under the seats. "
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I wouldn't try and second-guess what a criminal would or would not do, if I were you. In almost all car burglaries I know of, a criminal tosses everything he sees, just to see what falls out.

Kinda the same when a burglar ransacks your home. Toss everything and grab what looks valuable.

Just my thoughts on hiding a hndgun in a "technical" looking book visible in your car.

Good luck.

L.W.
 
How do you keep the book from flying all over the place if you have to hit the brakes hard?
 
Back in law school a friend of mine left some casebooks in his back seat. A guy broke his window and stole the lawbooks. Zero value to anyone but a current law student (the books are revised every couple of years) using that particular casebook. But extremely expensive to the friend -- the stupid books cost hundreds of dollars each. If not for that incident I would consider using your system and hollowing out an old lawbook.
 
In the old days of trucking we used to keep the birddogs hidden in the cab's own upholstery.

Today such devices can easily be found and there are only two options. Have it placed in front of a steer tire and mashed or face prosecution.

There isnt much you can hide in a car that a criminal wont already know about. I point to drug smuggling as evidence of criminal's creativity.

US Mail packages wont stop a thief from grabbing it and realizing pretty quickly what is within. Bingo.

My solution to you is to start thinking about another place of employment elsewhere in a more safer environment or... carry the weapon on you concealed. I point to the recent Pizza Delivery Driver who fight off ambushers who lured him there despite Pizza Hut's ban on workplace weapons.

I say sometimes employers are just too stupid for thier own good and the workers need to man up, get wise and do what it takes to protect themselves. The employers wont. Not outside of mission critical or militay anyway.
 
Well I'm pretty happy with where I work. It's not that it's unsafe in the neighborhood where I work, it's not unsafe where I live, there are just some questionable areas in between them. Concealing while I'm working is not possible. My job requires me to work on machinery which means lying on my back, side and stomach in sometimes small spaces. A pistol in my waistline while doing all that would be pretty uncomfortable. If I'm going to be bringing a gun into work I'm not going to leave it in a backpack out of my control. I thank everyone for their inupt. As it is, I dont' think there is a "perfect" way to hide it in your car other than a small safe bolted to the floor. While that's the safest and most secure option it's the first place my employer would look. Also, having to punch in a code while in a high-stress situation may cause some problems. So really, I guess we all gott do what works for us.
 
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Anyone doing a cursory search of my vehicle would probably not think to look in there as their main focus would be glove box, trunk and under the seats.
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I wouldn't try and second-guess what a criminal would or would not do…
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I think the OP is talking about his employers searching his vehicle, not a burglar, as they seldom do "cursory inspections".
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Mainsail said:
The free Express Mail boxes you can get at any Post Office would work even better. Sandwich the pistol between two pieces of foam and seal it up. If you need it, just pull the zip-strip and there it is. They might look in the book, or more likely they might move it and dump the gun out on the ground. They won’t open your mail.
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Who is they? Security or other personnel at the OP's workplace, perhaps. A thief who has already broken into the vehicle will not have any qualms about opening mail.
 
Park off property

you might want to talk to a lawyer as well. I know that this very issue has been in the courts before but I don't know the outcome. Unless allowing your car to be searched was a condition of employment, don't let them search your car.
 
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Who is they? Security or other personnel at the OP's workplace, perhaps. A thief who has already broken into the vehicle will not have any qualms about opening mail.
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“They” are the people the OP was referring to in the first post, the employer's security people. The “thief who has already broken into the vehicle” will not do a cursory inspection of his car, and since that’s what he said he was concerned about, that’s what I responded to. He never mentioned anything about car thieves.
 
Do you have a reason to believe that your employer would search your car?

If so, I would either park off site, or...

On your way in to work, stop somewhere near by and hide your gun in your trunk and stop somewhere near your work on the way home and retrieve it. My car has a trap door behind the armrest in the back seat that opens to the trunk and locks. I would not even have to get out of the car and carry the gun to the trunk, just "transfer" it through the trap door.
 
There was a time when I had to park in a lot that was posted "No Firearms", with occasional inspections at the gate. I used to use a very well-worn zippered Bible case to hold an old Chinese Tokarev 9mm and a pair of additional mags. A perfect fit, after I made an inner case from cereal box stock and some gaffer's tape.

The case had a Bible in it the first few times I drove on the lot. I had some religious pamphlets along,as well, and tried to give them out to the Security jocks. After a few repetitions, Security quit checking and I quit trying to save their souls.
 
How stupid are some employers? What difference does it make in a locked, secure, vehicle anyways? If the employer is anti-gun they should just not allow carry. (Which is dumb as well.)
 
If your car has a consoule in it you may want to purchase a safe made to fit inside it.
 
I had a boss a couple of years back who had to fire a guy with an alcohol problem. Said guy was heard making threats about the boss, so my boss decided to ignore the postings in the parking lot and protect himself. Nothing ever came of it, but he still carried a glock in the console.
 
What would the average employer do if they searched your vehicle for weapons and found a safe somewhere in the vehicle? Im also looking for a way to keep my weapon concealed but acessible in my vehicle at work.
 
Ther have been several cases, inculding one with in the last year( the plastics factory) where some one went to thier car, retrived thier gun, and started shooting coworkers.

It is about people want to protect themselfs... the employer is trying to protect themselfs from a law suit.


I highly recomend you do not break company policy. Having "fired for violating weapons policy" on your resume will basicly make you unemployable.
 
Having "Killed during a robbery" makes you unemployable, too.

We had three attacks and two killings in the parking lot in the nine months that I stayed on. (We had four other fatalities from other causes during the same period. Rough.)

Oops- sorry. We had five other fatalities. I lost count.
 
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If your carrying something small like a Kel-tec or LCP try a large foam soft drink cup with lid in the cars cup holder. Not many people will pick up someone else's crappy, nasty drink cup. Even a big coffee cup would work -just make it look very unwashed. X
 
I think my chances of actually being found out are very small. But a small chance is still a chance and finding a new job these days would be tough. It's funny that they say we can't have a gun in our car because we might get mad and shoot up the place. But if I tell them I want a gun so I can defend myself from someone coming in and shooting the place up they say I'm just paranoid. They're not, but I am. Sad really.
I guess the best thing I can do is get all my buddies here in MO to pester our state reps enough to pass a law similar to Georgia's. The struggle continues............
 
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