Carrying rubber gun at work?

[sterling180]

A few years ago,I helped one of my friends do a film,for his university project and he specifically asked me-because I had a collection of blank-firing guns and I could get more.So I wore a shoulder-holster-under my jumper,that contained a Umarex licensed replica of a Walther PPK.Now after playing my part-as one of the persons,who were harrased by the psycho-I forgot to take off my holster(including the gun,with it) and pack it away in my holdall and to lock the gun up,in my pistol carrying-case.My friend took a Colt Python replica and another kid took a Glock 17.

We managed to get through several rounds of ammo-in magazines and loose bullets.What a noise we made in the woods,by firing them.We all wore ear plugs,so our hearing wasn't damaged-but we did scare the crap out of this kid who accidently stumbled across a whacko,wearing a balaclava,combats and a tactical vest. We explained that it was a student-film and he was okay with it and went away.

We ended up carrying our guns in our holsters out of the woods,into Bexley Village,past two unsuspecting coppers and back to my friends house.He decided that we should go out for a drink locally-and so we went into one of the local bars and ordered drinks from the bartender-still with our guns holstered.Because it was a hard and stressful day for us,we simply forgot to remove them.I still laugh at the fact,we walked past two cops with them holstered in shoulder and belt holsters.But the thing was we couldn't feel the bulk,because we were filming in winter and wore thick jumpers and jackets.

My friend got an A* for his film and was grateful for my acting experiance and my collection of guns as well.He is pro-gun by the way-I fully-converted him.

Working on a film set,is harder than most people think.We did have a crew with us as well.These were student or trainee operators,cameramen,sound guys,etc.

 

[leadcounsel]

A really dumb idea.

Either stand up for yourself and continue to carry secretly and risk getting reprimanded if caught -- and the only likely reason to get caught is if you have to use it to defend your life in which case you'll be glad you had it and might be a hero at the office: Worst case you can lose your job for violating company policy.

OR

Stop carrying it altogether, possibly lock it in the car.

Worst case you are cowering your rights and could be left defenseless, or your gun could get stolen from company property, leaving you with a police report and you'd lose your job anyhow.

If I was victimized due to a workplace policy against self defense weapons, I would certainly sue the employer.


Save the money spent on a toy gun and buy a better concealable holster or better fitting clothing.

Carrying a fake gun could leave you with a lot of explaining to do and make you look like an idiot if you're ever made or feeling stupid if you ever need a gun and don't have one.

 

[carterbeauford]

My job is business casual. I CANNOT get away with a paddle holster.

You could get away with a Kel-Tec of one caliber or another carried IWB with a belt clip. This is what I do when I have concerns about my holster printing. A P11 would compliment your 228 nicely.

I carry a P11 this way at work, no one knows it's there but me.

 

[XLMiguel]

+1 Byron

Practice on your own time, in your own territory. Explaining why you're carrying a rubber gun to your employer will not be a career-enhancing experience, nor will it earn you the respect and admiration of your co-workers.

If you really feel the need to be armed at your current job, get something really discrete for pocket carry and be real careful while you look for another job at a CCW-friendly company.

 

[Roadwild17]

I'm not allowed to carry at work either, and with armed guards walking around who have orders to "shoot to kill, ask questions later" and to quote atlctyslkr

My employer has made it clear that they are not responsible for my safety.

The security force is there to protect the facility first. but with what I'm getting paid and having the ability to lock my gun in the car behind armed guards, I guess it works.

 

[Chrontius]

American Eagle FMJs

Those were my first too, in .380. I thought the gun had exploded the first time I squeezed, and I'm fairly sure I missed the paper.

You could carry a rubber-band gun instead. That way if somebody at work ticked you off.... you could really have the office talking about you.

Thank God I wasn't drinking something when I read that. The airsoft idea is actually pretty funny. Maybe get one of those executive sticky-target desk sets?

The security force is there to protect the facility first. but with what I'm getting paid and having the ability to lock my gun in the car behind armed guards, I guess it works.

That's still adequate protection in my humble opinion. Much better to have other people with guns than you with guns, as they will draw fire from you.

 

[evan price]

Wow! Awesome & radical idea! Just make sure you get a rubber replica duplicating your carry gun. Get everybody used to the idea, and cracking jokes about you. Then when office gossip dies down, take your REAL gun, paint it Neon Blue, and start carrying your real gun and they all think it is rubber! Absolutely cunning plan! Let them laugh, you have the last laugh knowing- ITS REAL!

Red diamond DOES make Sig 228's...!

 

[Roadwild17]

Maby you should get a hard plastic modle instead, the rubber wil bounce of a perps face , the hard plastic might atleast break ther nose, do you throw like a girl???

 

[Correia]

On a serious note, for those of us who dress business casual, and who carry in violation of workplace safety rules (not saying that I would) your best option is a belly band. Even with something like a Sig 229. Wear the band around your waist, gun in standard IWB position. Tuck the shirt in over it, cinch up the belt tight, blouse shirt a little bit. Gun is very secure, and damn near invisible. Wear heavier weight dress shirts, and have your pants one size larger than normal. It is comfy, and even full size guns are easily concealed.

I teach lots of people who work at places that have corporate rules saying no guns at work. I've also taught women who actually had stalkers who wanted to rape them to death who have worked at such places, and I'm pretty sure that they didn't give a damn about the stupid rule.

 

[30 cal slob]

i was about to suggest the belly band.

if you have a compact pistol, an ankle holster works well too.

if i am not prohibited by law from carrying in the office, i will carry discreetly and safely and responsibly in the office.

 

[Optical Serenity]

I worked at a place a long time ago where guns were a no no...well, one guy kept his holster in without any gun in it. Well, he got caught with the holster somehow by the owner, and guess what? He was fired immediately! Don't do it or get a different job.

 

[pete f]

On the days i have to in and out of city hall or court houses to file for building permits, trash permits etc, I just use a galco paddle holster. I live in business casual and have not figured out how you can not get by with a paddle. if you wear pants and a polo get in the habit of wearing a sport coat over it heading out to the car or back. After a while slipping a paddle on and off in the car is automatic and no problem

Prior to running my own company, I worked for a national homebuilder who had a NO GUNS policy. I would carry to work, slip the gun/paddle out and slide it into a "dayplanner" cover and slip them both into my briefcase. High speed low drag no even close. But one day when I was in the office we did have an off his Meds homeowner come in looking for the company president. Had that individual had a firearm rather than a piece of closet rod, I would have I hope, been able to defend my department. NO one ever questioned my briefcase, I even just carried the "day planner" in to the office a few times. No one ever doubted that either.

I have a good friend who works in a NO GUNS law office, he keeps a J frame in a bright red fold up shaving kit bag from LL Bean. It gets dropped into his safe every night, gets pulled out every day. My wife carries in a gun purse, from coranado leather, she has her purse inspected fairly often but has put a few "monthly necessities" in the same slot as the pistol. NO guard will ever do more than look in that pocket.

The little yaqui slide holster are just the right size to hold a cell phone during the day if you decided to keep your gun in the car.

Quite frankly, I would feel that the most likely place for me to need a firearm today would be in an office building with angry customers, former employees, suppliers etc showing up.

 

[Falconeer]

For those of you who have answered with thoughtful, helpful ideas thank you very much. I appreciate your input.

For those of you who felt the need to belittle, insult, or otherwise make fun of the question, I'll leave my opinion to your imagination.

 

[Steven1281]

Ankle holsters are a very good tool to have when you are in holster on/off situations in the car. Most people would just think you are tying your shoe... Rarely does one carry method apply well to all situations, and you need to adapt a little based on what you are doing. You will likely wind up with a variety of carry guns and holsters as you go through the early years of carrying (takes awhile to find what will work for you). I'm pretty confident most of us have tried a variety of methods, and abandoned some and implemented others. Finding something you could pocket carry (with a holster, of course) also seems like a good solution for you.

 

[NineseveN]

If they find a rubber gun on you, they'll have reason to search you car (they may be able to do that, check your employee handbook) and then it's just as bad as if you'd had it on in the first place.

And that rubber gun won't protect you in the office or on the way to and from your car.

Concealed means concealed. Either carry or don't, you're trying to be "kinda pregnant" and things just don't work like that.

Good luck in whatever you choose.


P.S. Shoulder rigs and stiff dress shirts with prints on them work well, don't ask me how I know, I'll plead the fifth.

 

[dawg23]

Posted by Falconeer: My reasoning:........................c) The size of my carry gun means pocket carry won't work. I have a C-TAC IWB holster.


Not only is the idea pretty flaky, I seriously doubt that you really carry concealed.

The Comp-Tac "C-Tac" holster doesn't need your rubber toy to keep it from collapsing. If it does, you need to contact Greg at Comp-Tac and discuss this with him. I'm sure he will gladly replace the holster at no charge.

I hope you were just jerking our chain.

 

[bogie]

To me this sounds like grounds for a checkup from the neckup...