Another Option For Car Carry

[TAB]

Having "Killed during a robbery" makes you unemployable, too.

We had three attacks and two killings in the parking lot in the nine months that I stayed on. (We had four other fatalities from other causes during the same period. Rough.)

Oops- sorry. We had five other fatalities. I lost count.

if your gun is in your car and your not. its pretty much useless.

 

[shotgunjoel]

TAB, the point is to have it while you are in the car! Like when you are driving.

 

[drjoker]

protest

Organize a CUSTOMERS' protest. Get a friend, I mean, CUSTOMERS, to protest against endangering their employees by unconstitutionally taking away employees' right to self-defense. When wallets, I mean, customers speak up, the boss listens. Get your friends to start a letter-writing campaign. Write your local congressman. Organize a peaceful protest.

This worked to get concealed carry laws passed in many states. This caused my local congresswoman to support the right to carry concealed on company parking lots bill currently before the Texas state congress. Letter writing campaigns by I an my friends and their friends, etc, has caused many local businesses to take down their "no guns" signs.

Plus, setting-up customers' protests will not put you, as an employee, in a bad light in front of your boss as you are not involved (that your boss knows of). Join the NRA and go to your local "friends of the NRA" dinner and network with other concerned citizens. Synchronize all of your letters to these employers as a customers' protest. Thousands of letters from angry customers threatening to spend their money elsewhere in this economy WILL get their attention. It's worked for me in Dallas and it will work for you, too. Good luck.

 

[GRIZ22]

Hollowed out books have been used to hide guns, drugs, etc for years. You may fool someone not aware of this.

 

[flying_gage]

Let me know if I am on the right track here? The security at the plant/place of employment is the issue, right? Not that the car may be broken into while on the premises. I am picturing fences and whatnot to secure the parking lot. In addition I am thinking that you won't leave it in the car at any other time other than at work....

If the above is the case, I think this is doable. Email me and I will share my idea with you if you want. Not sure if it will work, but it may give you ideas.

 

[shdwfx]

Is your employer in the habit of randomly searching employee vehicles?

 

[SomeDude]

Well a customer protest isn't really an option because we aren't open to the public and our nearest customer we ship to is two states away. Our company's HQ is in Toronto, Canada so that should say a little.
Second, most everyone at work knows I like to shoot. Also, three of us at work all went to our CCW class together so pretty much everyone knows I carry. I'm worried that I'll make one person at work mad and they say to management, "Hey, he probably has a gun in his car."
They're not in the habit of searching vehicles but you never know.
The real irony about the policy about no weapons on company property is that the next closest business to us is a gun shop. Seriously. So if someone snaps they don't have to worry about that person going to their car, they'll just go about 75 yards down the road. But hey it makes people at work FEEL safe so that's the more important thing. The illusion of safety is a dangerous thing.

 

[spiroxlii]

My glove compartment is big enough for my owner's manual, my wheel lock key, a k-frame and a j-frame.

 

[SuperFlanker]

Just find a new job. I wouldn't work for an employer that did not trust me.

 

[SomeDude]

Then maybe I should leave the country and live somewhere else since my government doesn't trust me.

 

[emory d]

I carry a weapon in the side zippered pocket of my laptop briefcase. Easily accessable while in the vehicle and is carried into my workplace with nobody the wiser or offended. It works for me and keeps the weapon secured and under my control at all times.

 

[thesolidus]

better

Buy a metal box style first aid kit.
Put gun inside.
lock box.

if you keep the slide locked back and a magazine "separate" you fulfill federal transport laws.

or just lock it in a small gun case and slip that into an old McDonalds bag under the passenger seat.

or get a 'roadside safety kit' in a box and slap a lock on that. (Or put a label on a larger gun case...)

You can (depending on local laws) lock and load when you get to the car, but don't want to get robbed and have to report an 'unlocked firearm' stolen. Some places that opens you to legal problems...

 

[Dismantler]

I just throw a spare denim jacket in the back seat and put the gun under it. I often have it on the seat next to me when I drive, under the same jacket.

I am not concerned about theft, as my car has nothing in it worth stealing. I cannot have my gun on company property, either.

I have an attorney that only does gun law. If my employer ever told me to open my car for an inspection I would inform them that if they plan to pursue such a course of action that they can count on being hit with a 2nd Amendment lawsuit that they will never forget.

Also, I would insist on having a police officer on he scene to take a report when the car was searched. I would want an official report when the case went to court. I would not allow the company to deny the search.

 

[TravisB]

If everybody having guns reduces shootings, I don't understand why employers and their insurance companies don't encourage employees to carry. After all, there would be fewer shootings and therefore fewer lawsuits.

I could understand if a few employers and insurance companies didn't get it. But why do virtually all employers and insurance companies act as if more guns in the workplace would likely lead to more shootings in the workplace? It's against their own interest, if it's true that more guns equals fewer shootings.

You'd think some bean counter at an insurance company would have taken a sober look at the facts and made a fortune for his company by offering what nobody else will -- better terms for employers who encourage firearms in the workplace. Anyone know if this has ever happened?

 

[TAB]

The more people handling guns, the more likly there will be a ND. At the very least a ND is going to be a head ache to deal with, at the worst you will be sued out of biz.

The reality is, if you say its ok to bring a gun to work, you will be held liable. period, end of converstation.

if you don't say anything, its a toss up.

you say no guns, your chances are very good there will be no liabilty on your part.

As a a bean counter, which would you choose?

 

[TheVirginian]

I agree with TAB, it's just CYA on the part of mgt. No one is gonna search the frikin car. Personally, I'd not have a gun in the car anyway. What's gonna happen on the way home that would require "Dirty Harry" to jump into action? I mean, are the streets really that tough which you have to drive through? I'd opt for a can of OC and a cell phone. Save the ammo for the range.
-Bill

 

[coloradokevin]

Cool idea, but why not just find another job?

I like guns as much as the next redneck, but lets not kid ourselves here... Careers aren't always that easy to replace, and sometimes you need to choose your battles!

I was a loan officer before I became a cop, and my employing bank didn't allow us to CCW. I wanted to carry, but they didn't allow it. Still, paying my bills was a pretty high priority to me, so I didn't really want to "bank shop" given how unlikely my chances of finding a pro-gun bank would be (and, frankly, that isn't exactly a great question to ask during the interview process).

FWIW, carry in the car if you want to. I doubt your employer with spot-check your cars each day. Besides, if you are worried about in-car security, you could always get something like:

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/pod/standard-pod-wrapped.jsp?_DARGS=/cabelas/en/common/catalog/pod-link.jsp_A&_DAV=MainCatcat602007-cat601047-cat20772&rid=&indexId=cat20772&navAction=push&masterpathid=&navCount=3&parentType=index&parentId=cat20772&id=0045006

You could keep that out of sight, and it would give you some piece of mind. Obviously it isn't "high security", but the reality is that any security measure is vulnerable in some way, and this would probably stop your average snatch-n-grab subject who is stealing radios from cars.

 

[altitude_19]

It's amazing what some people mistake for an authority figure. I keep whatever I like in my car on ANYONE'S property who has no legally-endowed right to search it (so I can't do it on base ). Working at a a private firm, if somebody says "let me search your car or I'll can ya" I'd just stick my hands in my pockets and throw them a quick "I dare ya." Really, what are they gonna do? Wrestle the keys away from you? I'd love to see that happen. Not many would be stupid enought to fire you for standing by your rights against Unwarranted Search and Seizure (by another PRIVATE CITIZEN no less). I'd rather be alive than employed.

 

[TAB]

um the US cons only protects you from the goverment, not the public.

I've worked more then one job where being searched on the way in and on the way out was common, on one of those it was law.

 

[Seattleimport]

If your carrying something small like a Kel-tec or LCP try a large foam soft drink cup with lid in the cars cup holder. Not many people will pick up someone else's crappy, nasty drink cup. Even a big coffee cup would work -just make it look very unwashed. X

Brilliant! What a creative, effective solution. Heck, I could leave a gun concealed in such a fashion with the top down on my car. Who would think to steal someone else's warm, backwash-filled drink?

+1 for the Big Gulp holster idea, xstuntman.

 

[jojo200517]

I'm a say just keep it hid and don't tell ANYONE at work, they shouldn't be able to just randomly search ya car at a whim.

Guess its a dang good thing I work at a gun club. Everyone has guns, and heck I open carry my handgun loaded for snakes.