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rick-o-shay

rick-o-shay

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I bought one this last spring, just now got around to give it a work out. If I had to shoot that stock trigger all day my nose picker would be useless. Searched RR mods, found this forum and cobalts work. Thanks for putting in that time. Back in the 50's at least once a summer us kids would stretch our springs. Those pics of the mangled springs is what they looked like. The true test was - if a bb would stick in tree bark.
Anyway, last night I was going to replace the trigger spring with the return spring on mine.
But the return spring vanished into the either, when i run the vacuum next I'll listen for it.
I put it through a vigorous test and it passed with flying colors, I even like the new trigger pull.
I've got a chunk of 1 1/2 x10 cedar for a custom stock and a sight rail coming for it. With almost 7 decades time in grade, my eyes aren't fit for open sights. (could barely see that fly)
here's that test if I can get it uploaded.
 
FWIW, I have found I do better with a small white dot on the tip of the front sight blade. I used correction fluid, aka white-out, because I could easily remove it if it didn't work out. Ended up leaving it after I shot better using it. But you could use whatever is on hand- even a small piece of masking tape.
 
I enjoy hearing stories like that. Reminds me of some of the most enjoyable times from my younger days. That stock looks 'right' to me, too. Good honest wear. Judging by the stain, I'd say it was made before production moved overseas. Not a day goes by that I don't take at least a few shots with one of my Daisys- there's one standing by the front and back door!
 
cobalt327 said:
I enjoy hearing stories like that. Reminds me of some of the most enjoyable times from my younger days. That stock looks 'right' to me, too. Good honest wear. Judging by the stain, I'd say it was made before production moved overseas. Not a day goes by that I don't take at least a few shots with one of my Daisys- there's one standing by the front and back door!
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I Had a 'spittin image' when I was so young that I had to hook the stock behind my knee and pull the lever with all my might to get it cocked.
I sure made the summers miserable for all the frogs, minnows, and snakes, up and down the creek that runs through the cow pasture where I grew up.
 
Go get a magnet at Harbor Freight to find the spring. The one with the handle, that has saved me several times

The Red Ryder is a classic

My favorite is the 1894 that looked just like a Winchester.
 
Got a crony last week, the first shot across it was 290.5 fps. But the gun was “house warm” and fell off a bit as there was ice and snow in the shadows out back.
First string 11 shots averaged 279.7fps
2nd 10 shots 276.7fps
3rd in the house 15 shots 277.4
johnwil
I do have a HF mag. but also have an assortment of small springs out in the shop.
I’m going to rework it a bit, going to try a pistol scope to add a little weight to the gun, to settle my coffee nerves.
It still hits cans good.
an expanded test here https://www.youtube.com/edit?o=U&video_id=gnMOsuwQX3A
the new stuff starts about 3:33 in.
 
If you never had a Red Ryder growing up ..... For what ever reason.......... You missed out on every kids dream.
At least mine anyway. The early foundation for learning. Got to start someplace.
Still have one .
 
cobalt327 said:
Overall, your gun is a little hotter than average. Hope you enjoy it!
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I wonder if it could be the crony (it's the one in the blue box that folds out), I tested a pellet rifle and shot 22 to 70 fps over what AOA tested it at.
They used JBS heavies 10 gr, I used H&N hollow points 11.5gr and gammo rockets 9.66 gr.
 
In my opinion, the differences you cite could well come just from using different pellets. Even if the weights are similar, there's no telling what the actual fit of the different pellets are to the barrel. And no telling what that could be doing to the MV. Even the exact same pellet from a different lot can give disparate results.
 
Yesterday I thought I’d take the stock off the RR and make a template.
That led to “I might as well redo the trigger spring”
This time I went in to the bathroom, shut the shower door and cut two coils off the spring .
It’s a bit fiddly getting it back in but I’m satisfied with the results. Only dropped it a few times.
That success led to “I might as well do cobalts treatment”.
cobalt— I didn’t respond to the offer of a drilled air tube because I suspected I might have a long drill bit out in the garage.
Thanks for the offer
Boeing Co. used to have a surplus store out here, and I got some 5 inch drills one time.
I think it was stated.093, at first all I could find was .091 so I used it.
Not much metal came out, so I dug in a pile of bits I haven’t touched in years-ureeka—.097
Fingers crossed it wasn’t too big, a note here you can order dimensional drill bits.
I read one of the break down threads, it said you should practice with the stock spring on reassembly, of course I didn’t,
I would have lost all the bosses profit getting that keeper in the receiver behind the spring.
Shot it in the house a bit, cocked harder, trigger just right.

This morning before the rains, I shot across the crony
first 13 328.9fps avg. second 14 322.4fps and my new stock model 25 12 shots 325.1fps avg.
The only thing left is new grown up stocks for both, they won't be traditional though. RR test.jpg IMG_1148.jpg
 
Good job on your RR! All I got outta my 25 was 282 fps so you definitely got a good one. Or maybe my chrony reads low! lol
 
HAHA had a battle with some water balloons today. Reworked the Model 25, couldn't see the rear sight. Stock too short. The RR is up next.
 
I didn't have a RR but I had a similar Springer. Those were wonderful times sitting on the stoop and arching copperheads through the yard at seriously mangled soda cans and the unsuspecting bird that landed within eyesight. I have been considering buying a new one but the ones my niece and nephew got are terrible, so I'm fearing buyers remorse, and I don't want to ruin my memories by clouding them with a crappy new gun.
 
WestKentucky said:
2 years, maybe 3. They were Christmas presents.
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Oh, okay. If it would have been longer than that, I'd have suggested you take another look at them. The Red Ryders from around the turn of the century were truly terrible. I took a Millennium 2000 model RR apart and the spring, air tube and shot tube were all sub-par. The gun would barely shoot 200 fps even after being resealed because the tubes were all seamed tubing that had gaps wide enough that I could shine a light through them. The current guns aren't great but they're a lot better than that. Several folks have even modified the current guns and aftert a few simple mods they shoot a lot better. Some info HERE.
 
In my early twenties I used to 'hunt' mud dabbers (wasps) in my shop. I actually hit more than I missed at 10 to 20 feet with my Red Ryder BB gun. Still have it - it now rests in a shipping box with a Mosin Nagant.
 
WestKentucky said:
I have been considering buying a new one but the ones my niece and nephew got are terrible, so I'm fearing buyers remorse, and I don't want to ruin my memories by clouding them with a crappy new gun.
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I got mine last spring, they are junky, but after reading cobalts thread. And a half inch peice of 1/2" copper and a minot tweak to the rear sight. mine is tin can accurate at 10 yards. Power went up from a hole in one side of a can to holes thru & thru.
 
I might do it. I have 5 hours left on my range membership that I don't intend to renew so I need a town friendly shooter. My breakbarrel pellet gun is a bit much, and is as loud as a 22lr. I will do it if I can find one identical to the one I had for a reasonable price.
 
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