AntiGun Family Or Friends

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This will make you all laugh.This guy at my Learn Direct Centre (who is its centre manager.) is called Adam and he is a great fan of the hitman series.I asked him if he liked Hitmans Colt .45 pistols and if he would have shot them,before the ban in 1997.He told me:"No I wouldn't and that I,you or any member of the general public,don't need them.Do you need a Colt automatic or revolver,to shoot with then? I said:"For target-shooting" and he said:"You don't need it,if you want a gun,use an airgun-for your target-shooting needs.
 
I have a lot of pro-gun minded friends. i like hearing people's viewes. I like it when they say that ordinary people should not be able to own guns. I enjoy it when people who critize firearms hear my beliefs. But mostly i enjoy bombastically stating my very-pro gun beliefs to them.
 
I really only have about 4 people I know that are against guns, and its not even a good reason, its just they dont like guns. I just tell them its my freedom and right to own my guns and they seem to understand. If I know someone is extremely against them I just dont talk about it with them, because you know how stubburn and unamerican some of those people are!! Sorry, I dont like when people try and take away rights and freedoms that I have as an American.
 
I had a case manager that was anti-gun that I told "There's the door, don't let it hit your rearend on that way out". It wasn't due to him being anti-gun, it was due to him calling and upsetting me. He has the attitude that America would be better off without firearms. You get rid of firearms then you get rid of a part of this country's history. I'm a firm believer that everything on this planet is here for a reason. What happens if paper was banned? My former case manager wouldn't be able to enjoy his hobby of japanese paper folding. Firearms were put here mainly for hunting and protection. Just like STDs were put on this planet to cure morally loose people.
 
I work in technology ... my last job was at a non-profit. Everybody there was basically anti-gun, pro-socialism. Some were even personally involved in the successful effort to strike down the first 'shall issue' law in MN (the 2003 law). I sometimes spoke about my hobbies (IPSC, 3 Gun) and nobody 'dissed me though they voiced disapproval. Neither did i 'diss them. I never discussed 'carry' there.

In January I switched companies, and out of about 20 guys I believe they all own firearms in general and handguns in specific, and they oppose all the hippie BS about the profit motive being bad. WOW ... what a turn around from my last place. Even in an approving environment, I will not disclose that I have a permit to carry. None of their business ...

Two jobs ago I had a very good friend who was from Poland. Like all Eastern Europeans, he spent all of his time bitching about America. Believe it or not I was very, very good friends with him for three years until finally one of his friends openly ridiculed me (mercilessly) for 20 minutes straight. I never spoke to either of them again. I had never disrepected them for their opinons that America should just like Europe, but they laughed at my expense often.
 
Mom and Dad dont mind that I shoot, they just see my purchase habits as a bit excessive while also realizing that since I have my own place I can do whatever I want.

My brother has a Ruger MkIII and an AK, so no worries about him except beyond how we're going to fit his guns into my safe (he moves into my spare bedroom at the end of the month, so I wont have to go shooting solo anymore).

Being in the boonies of Maryland, practically everyone I know has a firearm either at their place or in the back of their closet at their parents' house. If anyone's anti-gun, they havent told me about it.

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PHP:
One statement that always seems to shut them down (if not shut them up), is this:

"I own guns because I have decided to accept responsibility for the safety of my family. When their lives are threatened, I don't want a telephone call to be my last line of defense."

Simple and effective. Especially with any fence-sitters that might be listening in. I have introduced about 6 aquaintances to shooting who were at the time fence-sitting sheep. The prospect of inhanced family safety has been the most compelling reason.

After the initial range visit, the topic of guns for self-defense usually comes up. At that point, the right questions can keep the enlightenment going. For instance, we live about 20 miles from Philly. With one buddy, I asked: "What do you think would happen if a dirty bomb was detonated in Philly?" They usually think about it for a while, then conclude that it would start to get very crowded in the suburbs. Then I asked him how many of the urbanites he expected to remain civil and orderly when they reach the suburbs, being tired, hungry, thirsty, and angry? That was enough for him. It varies from person to person, though.
 
My mother is extremely anti. She has been my entire life. It's caused quite a bit of friction over the years, Dad being a "gunnie" and all.

As a matter of fact, she made me write an anti essay in the 8th grade. I responded by writing a letter to the editor of the local paper supporting RKBA, and it was actually published.

Nowadays, she knows I am usually armed, we just don't discuss it.

She once told me "I would rather be killed by a BG than harm another person." Sorry, Mom, I don't see it that way.
 
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If they are firm in their views all the facts in the world won't change their mind.
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This is the truth. I have a couple like this in my extended family and I agree they aren't changing.

Usually I just avoid the subject. But if they come out with some kind of nonsense propaganda crap they read on the Brady Center website - in other words, something that is demonstrably and objectively untrue - then I will correct them on that particular matter.

For instance, once my Aunt was going off about so-called 'assault weapons' and saying that "the bullets these guns fire are so powerful, you couldn't use them for hunting: there wouldn't be anything left of the deer!" This is just factually incorrect, and I corrected it.

There's no way I'm changing her mind on gun control generally, but at least I can replace some of the propaganda in her head with facts.
 
My older sister is anti to the core.

She used to go shooting and be at least mildy pro-rkba, but then she became a public school teacher. Hard left, flanking speed.

I don't do much to combat her arguments on anything. She's easily upset, so I just keep my trap shut in the interest of family unity. She knows that I am a gun nut and on the opposite end of the political spectrum.
 
Only the wife, mildly anti gun. She used to be very firm about it, but she's coming around. Now she just rolls her eyes when she sees me and my son with a rifle and a bb-gun to shoot in the backyard. :)

I only bring up CCW a bit with my brother (he has a CCW but does not carry as far as I know). Last weekend my brother and I went sailing with my Dad, and I mentioned that I had a Glock in my bag- my Dad said "I knew I raised you right!" He thinks carry is silly though, but I think that's because he lives in a town that won't issue a permit. I told him if he applies in the town in which he has a summer house, he's likely to get one, and he said he'd probably do that. :)
 
My first centerfire rifle to ever shoot was a 30-06. As my handle implies, my family hunts very, very frequently. My mother's brothers and their father collected firearms. My mother actually helped them cast their own bullets when she was younger. When my father kidnapped my mother and brought her a poverty stricken life in the country, she didn't mind the guns. In fact, she thinks my revolvers are pretty, and she is asking for a nice "Ornate and aestetically pleasing" over and under for bird hunting (She wants it to look better than it shoots).

However, as her side of the family lives across the country, I don't see them very often. Now you all have to understand, in every single picture of me from age 1-9, I've got a gun in my hand. In fact, my sister and I were looking through the old photo books and saw that I had a Colt replica 6-gun, Red Rider BB gun, or a knife always with me. In telling you this, I'm trying to say that I have always had a love of weapons. It's in my genes, so to speak. :)

Well, I go to visit one of my mother's sisters when I was around 13. At this point I'm more of a knife/blade person than a gun person (Although that is mainly because I didn't have the money for guns, and swords didn't require reloading). I stay with this suburban country-club-christian (aka, has a very fluffy exterior, but the interior is twisted, so to speak) completely anti-gun anti-violence anti-anything-fun (for me) family.

At the end of the week, My mother's sister tells her that she needs to put me into therapy, because my ideas were "Scareing" my little cousins.
One of the things that made my aunt upset was that I had taken appart an electric toy (one of my cousin's, with his permission), strapped it to the back of a remote controlled car, wired in the motor to the battery pack, and placed a reinforced arm equipped with a metal cutting edge to the motor, so when I turned the toy truck on, the motor would make the arm spin (it was located in the front of the toy), and so anything in front of it would be sliced.

I called it "The Mouse Slayer". :evil:

So of course, some of my ways may have scared this suburbanite household. But then again, you have to understand, the father, upon hearing a disturbance in the middle of the night, made his wife go down the stairs first. He said he'd be "Right behind her".
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About 99.9 percent of the anti's I run into are leftist Bush haters. So usually, after hearing some anti gun diatribe, I ask them "After Bush declares himself emperor and recinds the constitution and executes every member of the aclu, how are you going to fight back with out guns?"
This generally makes them think for at least a second or two, cause they are quite willing to believe Bush is going to do this.
 
They seem to think the country is going to hell in a handbasket due to the government, yet shun the very tools necessary to keep said government in check.
They recognize crime is a problem yet shun the very tools necessary to keep themselves and their loved ones safe. They are often a lost cause.
 
My youngest sister has already banned me from her house because I own guns. We do not speak, and I will not have anything to do with her beyond what gives comfort to my parents. It's a shame. I love my niece and nephews, but I will not associate with people who treat me as a dangerous animal rather than a member of the family.
 
My brother is a probation officer for the state of Colorado and his wife is a school teacher. Can you say "extreme left wing"? That's pretty much where they stand on guns. My brother once stated to me that "all guns should be banned outright", including shotguns and hunting rifles! He even went so far as to say "we should eliminate the manufacture of guns for the civilian market"! Of course my brother has absolutely ZERO evidence or rational to support this position, when I tried to introduce a couple of basic facts surrounding the gun issue, he began shouting and was confrontational. I had to just walk away. My brother is a rabid socialist, liberal who gets all his information off of the street. He does not read newspapers, does not watch any TV news whatsoever, he basically is ignorant of any current events. He is extremely ignorant of the gun issue, he spouts stupid statements like the one above. My brother is truly hopeless, no amount of facts will sway him in the least. Considering the father we both have, the way my brother turned out is pretty strange.
My dad is very pro-gun, always has been. He taught me how to shoot when I was 10 years old with a single shot .22 rifle. When I turned 21, I bought my first handgun, my dad was supportive, and I was hooked. I'm now 29 and I am a certified "gun nut".:D I have no idea where my brother developed his absolutely absurd views. However, being in social work, being a leftist, radical, Democrat is pretty much mandatory. I actually believe my brother would prefer a socialist society.
My stepbrother is a bit of an oddball. He supports the leftist Democrat agenda, he likes and voted for John Kerry. The ironic thing is, he owns several guns, including handguns. With his political position, he is not doing gun owners any favors! I told him he should sell all of his guns, if he's going to vote for politicians that want to ban them! In my view, liberal-Democrat-gun-owner do not mix.
 
Interesting posts. I was thinking of a thread just like this one today before I logged on, and low and behold, one was already here.

My mom is an anti. I think it is now a requirement for teachers that you have to be a left-wing nut to be one. Since I am home now, we clash constantly about my firearms and my use of them. What is really strange is that when my dad and I are cleaning out the varmits around the farm, she thinks it is O.K., just "don't shoot the rabits or foxes, they're cute".

But when I ask her what she will do if any 2 legged varmits come around, her head goes straight into the sand. The silly thing is, she thinks that shotguns and .22's are for furry farmland creatures (no foxes and rabbits though), but every thing else I have is only for killing people.

The sadest thing is, she is so smart about almost everything else but firearms and politics, and she has infected my sister too. :( Kinda makes for a s*@%%y Christmas.

The other anti in my family is my wife. I ended up moving out because of her anti behavior. I could deal with all of her other problems (redhead, you know) but when she started in on the firearms, I moved out.

All hope is not lost though. She called me the other day and said that she was scarred out of her mind, because someone had broken a window out of her car and stole her purse and some other stuff at night, in her driveway. It took the police twenty minutes to get there from when she called them. WhenI asked her if she now understood why I had firearms and didn't trust 911 to save me, she said yes, and asked if I would help her learn how to shoot and get her a pistol.:) I am glad that she and my twin girls are still safe, and I think that we will end up working this out.

To make a long story short (too late!), every one can see the light, some just have to have it shown to them in a different way. I just haven't figured out away to convince my mom and sis yet.:rolleyes:
 
The Guy,

Good thinking breaking into her car...just make sure you get rid of all the evidence!:evil: :D -kidding of course! I hope things work out.
 
Not so long ago, I crossed paths with a girl. The mutual attraction was very strong. The gun thing came up. With every reason I gave her for possibly owning a gun she came up with a reason not to. She was under the delusion that everyone who walks God's green earth would be able to use physical maneuvers (or measures such as pepper spray or mace) to subdue those who would do them harm. This person said that gun owners were "playing God," and "deciding who lives and who dies," even going so far as to say that the 60-some-odd million gun owners in this country were using the remainder of the population for target practice. A bona-fide RCOB moment, let me tell you. I tried to tell her, calmly, that with my own condition, (mild case of cerebral palsy, bad arm and leg), it would not be so prudent of me to stake my next sunrise on my physical abilities. She still did not understand, accusing me of lecturing her after I tried to tell her in detail -- yes, as non-confrontationally as I thought anyone could -- why I feel so strongly about this. I suppose I could have told her about the multiple rapes and countless beatings someone I once knew experienced that might well have been avoided had this lady had a gun and the willingness and know-how to use it, but she probably would have said this lady should have armed herself with the condiment. :fire: I have nothing to do with this anti anymore. I hated it, but how else do you deal with such closed-minded people? :banghead:
 
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