Anti's that actually have knowledge on firearms?

[stellarpod]

nope. Most people in general know nothing of guns... even most of the police officers and many of the enlisted folks I know.

Even scarier is their lack of knowledge where the Constitution of the United States is concerned. You know, that document they each swore to uphold and defend?

stellarpod

 

[Average Joe]

No, any anti I've run across doesn't have a clue about guns. Its just an emotional issue, they see GUN and get all crazed and glassy eyed, then go off spouting all the wrong info they read in the media.

 

[tmneast]

Maybe we should outlaw penises for the same reason.

Let's just avoid any open carry debates.

 

[notorious]

I've actually brought quite a few ignorant noobs and some antis to the range and got them all hooked.

I even had a rabidly anti roommate a long time ago and when she went shooting the first time, the ear to ear grin told the whole story. I still hate her though because she is still a miserable person.

Oh, and no, I have not ran into ONE anti that knew half of what they are talking about. I have debated with a ton of them because gun rights are very important to me and everytime I hear ignorance being spouted, I try to interject facts into the emotional discussion. Yeah, I know, antis don't like facts to get in their way.

There are some moderates who believe in rights for certain guns and not other types that sorta know what they are talking about but they are still ignoring the fact that the EBRs are hardly, if ever, used in crimes so banning them does little, if anything, to help the problem.

 

[wickedsprint]

I actually know a surprising amount of antis in the military. I would say perhaps less than 25% of us have privately owned firearms in my operations group of ~300 people). I find that the antis can never put up a good argument and how dare you bring up actual cold hard facts when it comes to gun control.

I have a degree in Criminology and have had to do actual research on the subject at hand, what do YOU bring to the table besides a media based but otherwise uneducated opinion?

Their reactions and arguments are all fear and emotion based, at least every single one I have talked with. Some usually have a friend or acquaintance that was killed with a gun, either self inflicted on purpose or accident. I usually find these are the same people that hate motorcycles..until you give them a ride.

 

[6_gunner]

I flipped through an anti-gun book at the library the other day. There was a chapter explaining the differences between types of guns, and it was rife with misinformation.

They stated, for example, that shotguns fire "hundreds of projectiles with one shot." I doubt that even birdshot shells contain "hundreds" of pellets. They also said that "shotguns with a barrel length under 18 inches have been illegal to own since the 1934 National Firearms Act." Granted, they're more highly regulated, but they're still available.

I should think that they would go to the trouble of doing some research when writing a book. I was disgusted, but not terribly surprised.

 

[Len S]

One should remember that antis are the same kind of people who voted for Mr.Obama. I am sure you have all seen the video where they did a survey of Obama voters and the voters thought his choice of Sarah Palan was great and that his idea to stay in Iraq was the best one. The majority of the left act on emotion only. They did the Na NA NA good bye thing to Pres Bush, they are already trying to get Mr. Obama to be President for life, five letters so far in various papers on that. There is no core of belief in individual thought, there is no thought that as an individual one can accomplish anything which is why they look to the government for all answers. Antis like the rest of the left do not need facts they just need to feel right. Facts can confuse them and lead to irrational attacks, see any report on pmsmsnbc. We have to start onthe youth and educate them with facts. We cant have our young be like Chris Matthews, the reporter who needs to change his skivies everything he hears Mr.Obama speak.


Len

 

[expvideo]

Have any of you ever come across any?

No. If they had knowledge on firearms, they wouldn't be antis.

 

[Gungnir]

I'm not sure that whether I'm concerned more with Anti's with no knowledge, or "gun advocates" with little knowledge, or foresight.

I recently had an argument with a lifelong NRA member, and alleged 2A supporter, who said he believed a return of the 94 AWB would be a good thing, and couldn't understand how I could support a repeal of the 86 select-fire ban, or the '68 NFA, as he didn't see these as affecting the 2A "in any real sense".

Maybe I'm just a crazy gun lovin' fiend.

 

[Marcus5aurelius]

Never, everyone I've talked to who says they dont like guns have only used movies as their point of reference. lol

 

[notorious]

One should remember that antis are the same kind of people who voted for Mr.Obama. I am sure you have all seen the video where they did a survey of Obama voters and the voters thought his choice of Sarah Palan was great and that his idea to stay in Iraq was the best one. The majority of the left act on emotion only. They did the Na NA NA good bye thing to Pres Bush, they are already trying to get Mr. Obama to be President for life, five letters so far in various papers on that. There is no core of belief in individual thought, there is no thought that as an individual one can accomplish anything which is why they look to the government for all answers. Antis like the rest of the left do not need facts they just need to feel right. Facts can confuse them and lead to irrational attacks, see any report on pmsmsnbc. We have to start onthe youth and educate them with facts. We cant have our young be like Chris Matthews, the reporter who needs to change his skivies everything he hears Mr.Obama speak.

Len

The fear mongering and race baiting is detestable to say the least when it comes to rational debate with anyone on that side.

The amazing thing is this guy has not done anything substantive other than return us to the Clinton era and also to go back on his promises of transparency and break from lobbyists.

Then vowed return to the 1994 AWB is also just another bow to the left.

There has never been any facts to support any positions of the antis but that has never stopped them because the politicians don't want to be right, they just want to feel good and look like they care.

The left has the ear of the country right now and so we must bide our time until it backfires on them when they realize they are going to eventually feed on each other because as more succumb to the welfare state, less and less people will work to support the state, and the state has to be more draconian to extract more out of the people.

 

[Double Naught Spy]

The thing about being an anti and having knowledge is that for the aspect of public involvment, they don't need great knowledge. That is where propaganda comes into play.

The same can be said to exist on our side as well.

Both sides claim to know what they are talking about. Both sides are rife with propaganda that is both misleading and some of which is downright wrong.

Like the antis, we tend to be a lot more accepting of errors and misrepresentations that are supportive of our cause and critical of those that do not.

 

[notorious]

The thing about being an anti and having knowledge is that for the aspect of public involvment, they don't need great knowledge. That is where propaganda comes into play.

The same can be said to exist on our side as well.

Both sides claim to know what they are talking about. Both sides are rife with propaganda that is both misleading and some of which is downright wrong.

Like the antis, we tend to be a lot more accepting of errors and misrepresentations that are supportive of our cause and critical of those that do not.

That's because we're right... and we have facts, when you boil it down to the basics and take away all the propaganda and falsehoods on both sides.

 

[leathermanwave]

They stated, for example, that shotguns fire "hundreds of projectiles with one shot." I doubt that even birdshot shells contain "hundreds" of pellets.

The box of 12Ga #6 shot 2 3/4" shells I am holding right now says it has 225 pellets. In 7 1/2 it would have 350. In 8 it would have 410.
The book was actually right on that point.

 

[Robocop]

Back in the early'90's,I ran into an anti at a range I went to weekly. I shoot a Colt AR15 sp1 on a weekly basis,and EVERY TIME I brought it out, he would make it a point to announce to the other shooters on the line that my rifle had no place on the range because it was meant for killing people. I guess he went on the join AHSA.:banghead:

 

[Kino74]

Back in the early'90's,I ran into an anti at a range I went to weekly. I shoot a Colt AR15 sp1 on a weekly basis,and EVERY TIME I brought it out, he would make it a point to announce to the other shooters on the line that my rifle had no place on the range because it was meant for killing people. I guess he went on the join AHSA.

Luckily I don't run into that problem. Apparently in the Baton Rouge area only handgunners, AW and NFA owners go to ranges. Seriously I never see hunters or other so-called "sportsmen" at ranges.

I find that those who do not frequent ranges or take part in competition tend to be more likely to see other classes of weapons as a ban target.

I hate to acknowledge this but even here there are those who act like hunting is the number one reason to own a firearm.