VARifleman
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Any of the back pockets will work, as food, wallets, cell phones, keys, etc can be used to balance as necessary.
Any cyclists? (CCW)
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Geronimo45,
You got it right. I am convinced that the XD45 is the gun I want, and it will have to serve triple duty. Home defense, CCW, and dangerous animal protection when I am in the backcountry. Given the broad range of needs, I wanted to pick something big, but comparably light.
You got it right. I am convinced that the XD45 is the gun I want, and it will have to serve triple duty. Home defense, CCW, and dangerous animal protection when I am in the backcountry. Given the broad range of needs, I wanted to pick something big, but comparably light.
I carry a KelTec P32 with the optional right side belt clip when I go out cycling. It goes on the inside of my bike shorts, right side, next to my skin, and a spare mag is in my left jersey pocket. It stays there and is comfortable, and the lump on my shorts is covered by my bicycle jersey. I've been doing this on every bicycle ride since December 2005 (with the exceptions of my Katy Trail rides, since it is a Missouri State Park, and my 2006 MS150 bicycle tour, since we always start and end at schools). Nobody has ever suspected I am carrying. A KelTec P3AT should work as well.
JamisJockey
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I'm not going to read all the replies.
I'm a cyclist. I race a little, road and cyclocross. My primary fear is dogs.
Compromise between size and how to carry it. In full team kit, as you know, there isn't anywhere to hide a 4" double stack forty-five. Me, I carry a kel-tec P3AT. You might consider a P11 or even an ultralight .357.
I carry in a small fanny pack.
http://www.bulldogcases.net/fanny.htm
Actually works out well as it has room for ID, some money, keys, phone, and a cliff bar or two.
You'll find to prevent it from bouncing around you need to carry it a little low (like on your ass cheek) and kind of tight.
Do not carry it on your bike, as if you are separated from the bike you're also separated from the gun.
Another good option might be the Goblin by Camelbak.
http://www.uscav.com/Productinfo.aspx?ProductID=11206&TabID=1&CatID=5230
Seems a little better for a fullsize.
I'm a cyclist. I race a little, road and cyclocross. My primary fear is dogs.
Compromise between size and how to carry it. In full team kit, as you know, there isn't anywhere to hide a 4" double stack forty-five. Me, I carry a kel-tec P3AT. You might consider a P11 or even an ultralight .357.
I carry in a small fanny pack.
http://www.bulldogcases.net/fanny.htm
Actually works out well as it has room for ID, some money, keys, phone, and a cliff bar or two.
You'll find to prevent it from bouncing around you need to carry it a little low (like on your ass cheek) and kind of tight.
Do not carry it on your bike, as if you are separated from the bike you're also separated from the gun.
Another good option might be the Goblin by Camelbak.
http://www.uscav.com/Productinfo.aspx?ProductID=11206&TabID=1&CatID=5230
Seems a little better for a fullsize.
I ride a mountain bike & wear cargo riding shorts, that being said , I carry a J frame in an Uncle Mike's belt pack. I run a nylon belt through it and it is secured to the shorts. I have been known to dump the bike now and again & the gun is always secured & protected with easy access. For your clothing and with a large weapon loaded with 45 cal. you may need something like a "Wilderness Safe Packer" I have not visited their site but they seem to have a good rep. & lots of carry options. I think that it's ,The Wilderness.com. Carrying a water pack with a fully loaded 45 seems to be alot of wt. in one place. Good luck with your choice..
uzimon
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when i first saw this on my cell phone, without pics, i thought you were talkin motorcycles
anyway, i bn ridin 20 years, packin 3
i carry a larger auto in my waistband right rear hip. jeans
wear a long shirt with the tail tucked into right rear pocket.
perhaps you can adapt this meathod and 86 the speed racer look?
anyway, i bn ridin 20 years, packin 3
i carry a larger auto in my waistband right rear hip. jeans
wear a long shirt with the tail tucked into right rear pocket.
perhaps you can adapt this meathod and 86 the speed racer look?
usp_fan
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Camelbak makes both the Goblin (allready mentioned) and the Demon. Both are hydration compatible with CCW compartments. One should fit your need. You need to hydrate anyway, so why not combine your needs? You may also want to look up a product called the "active body sport holster". It is a belly band type holster.
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JamisJockey
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:banghead:
Maybe after a few DUI's and they take my license, I'll buy a huffy, wear jeans on the bicycle maybe with my baseball hat turned backwards, turn the handlebars upside down and use it to get my smokes from the stop-and-rob.
Maybe after a few DUI's and they take my license, I'll buy a huffy, wear jeans on the bicycle maybe with my baseball hat turned backwards, turn the handlebars upside down and use it to get my smokes from the stop-and-rob.
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Short of using a Camelback, there really is no way to descretely carry a
firearm of that size on a bike if you're wearing form-fitting attire. It seems
that because of your choice of firearm and clothing, this is the only way.
I will tell you from experience that the smallest-framed Glock models fit
nicely into most manufacturer's rear jersey pockets, though...
Short of using a Camelback, there really is no way to descretely carry a
firearm of that size on a bike if you're wearing form-fitting attire. It seems
that because of your choice of firearm and clothing, this is the only way.
I will tell you from experience that the smallest-framed Glock models fit
nicely into most manufacturer's rear jersey pockets, though...
uzimon
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@ jamis jockey- wherever you go, there you are
JamisJockey
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Maybe with all this tight lycra constricting my bloodflow I couldn't work up enough sarcasm for you to understand
And I'm just glad we don't dress like the village people
Back to the question at hand.....
You're not going to like hauling that XD around in anything in lycra on a long ride. Have you looked at kel-tec's offerings?
Comparison
http://www.kel-tec-cnc.com/p11.html
Weighs 14 ounces, a loaded mag adds 6 ounces
9mm
10+1 capacity
The XD weighs around 30 ounces unloaded.
.45 cal
13+1 capacity
Other than the bigger bang of the XD...for cycling there is little comparison
And I'm just glad we don't dress like the village people
Back to the question at hand.....
You're not going to like hauling that XD around in anything in lycra on a long ride. Have you looked at kel-tec's offerings?
Comparison
http://www.kel-tec-cnc.com/p11.html
Weighs 14 ounces, a loaded mag adds 6 ounces
9mm
10+1 capacity
The XD weighs around 30 ounces unloaded.
.45 cal
13+1 capacity
Other than the bigger bang of the XD...for cycling there is little comparison
MillCreek
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With all of my 20+ handguns to choose from, I carry my Taurus 651 titanium while cycling for the light weight and the corrosion resistance. It does rain a lot up here, and usually when I have just started a 50 mile ride......
When I need a smaller package, I carry my AMT DAO Backup in .380, but it weighs a little more loaded than the Taurus.
When I need a smaller package, I carry my AMT DAO Backup in .380, but it weighs a little more loaded than the Taurus.
BothellBob
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Loose the lycra! In fact, loose the bike! Get a recumbent and wear street clothes. Now grow a gray beard and gain some weight. You can carry your pistol most anywhere you want.
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MillCreek
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BothellBob, your description is frighteningly accurate. Have I seen you on the Sammamish River trail?
kungfuhippie
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Go with the camel back as mentioned. I'm a cyclist-though I've stayed away from the lycra since I got a real job and put on some pounds
The pockets on the jersey will not hold a gun secure, even a lightweight one. Having it on the bike will be a hassle IMHO but they do make frame bags-the triangle shaped type at the seat-tube/top-tube union. I carry pepper spray to ward off dogs/bears-as well as a pistol when I can.
The pockets on the jersey will not hold a gun secure, even a lightweight one. Having it on the bike will be a hassle IMHO but they do make frame bags-the triangle shaped type at the seat-tube/top-tube union. I carry pepper spray to ward off dogs/bears-as well as a pistol when I can.
BoneDigger
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Although I personally carry a J-frame airweight (642) while cycling, I think your situation can be remedied. Go ahead and get the XD .45. Call Robert Mika (Mika's holsters) and have him special make a holster for your XD that will go in your right rear jersey pocket. His holsters are cheap but well made. The holster will hide the shape of the gun. There will be a bulge, but a lot of my cycling friends carry water bottles, a light jacket, etc. in those pockets.
Also, consider instead of purchasing tight fit "racer" style jerseys, you can go with a looser mountain bike style (similar designs overall) and use a belly band for you gun. I would use a belly band and then situate the gun slightly to the right, just in front of the side.
In anything that you do, understand that the concept is not just to have a gun on you, but to be able to draw it quickly. If you have the gun under your jersey are you going to be able to steer the bike and draw/shoot at the same time? It would necessitate pulling up the jersey and grabbing the gun. That's why I think a rear pocket carry is your best option.
The camelback option is doable to, but I would be hesitant to recommend it since 1) I hate the feel of a camelback on my back while riding my road bike, and 2) How easy will it be to get to the gun with one hand on the handlebars?
Don't assume that you'll have time to stop the bike and then draw.
A typical bike jersey has three pockets in the rear. Usually it is a single pocket that is sewn vertically in two areas. If you can make the two right pockets into a single pocket, it would EASILY hold you XD.
Just my $.02.
Todd
Also, consider instead of purchasing tight fit "racer" style jerseys, you can go with a looser mountain bike style (similar designs overall) and use a belly band for you gun. I would use a belly band and then situate the gun slightly to the right, just in front of the side.
In anything that you do, understand that the concept is not just to have a gun on you, but to be able to draw it quickly. If you have the gun under your jersey are you going to be able to steer the bike and draw/shoot at the same time? It would necessitate pulling up the jersey and grabbing the gun. That's why I think a rear pocket carry is your best option.
The camelback option is doable to, but I would be hesitant to recommend it since 1) I hate the feel of a camelback on my back while riding my road bike, and 2) How easy will it be to get to the gun with one hand on the handlebars?
Don't assume that you'll have time to stop the bike and then draw.
A typical bike jersey has three pockets in the rear. Usually it is a single pocket that is sewn vertically in two areas. If you can make the two right pockets into a single pocket, it would EASILY hold you XD.
Just my $.02.
Todd
Cosmoline
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I'm car free and rely exclusively on by bikes for transportation. One reason I don't follow the lyrca bandwagon is because it makes CCW difficult. Unless you have a REALLY long commute or are running a race, the added drag of a light wicking shirt for cover is not going to be a problem. You really don't need to dress like Lance to ride. If you can bring yourself to wear a light jacket or shirt, you can at least conceal with a shoulder rig. For winter I use a Galco or Galco hybrid for my Speed Six. For summer I'm switching to a KL Null deep concealment rig for a Detective Special. IWB is a PINA on the bike for several reasons. One is it hinders vital hip movement, another that it makes clothing changes cumbersome. A shoulder rig is better. If you're wedded to the lyrca or need it for a race, then you can always go with a Null under your armpit. You'd probably want to have a stainless revolver there, though.
LOL Absolutely. In fact you can cruise around smoking a cigar.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YxBTjvevmg
LOL Absolutely. In fact you can cruise around smoking a cigar.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YxBTjvevmg
Kel-Tec .32 in its little blue pouch, stuffed in lycra biking shorts on left leg...
Am going to get one of the 9mm Kel-Tecs to replace the little .32...I use a velcro strap to hold the gun pouch stable on my leg.
I ride an ancient Trek 5200 that I've overhauled with Shimano Dura-Ace components, specializing in long hauls. I have 3 Cross-Floridas, the California Alps/"Death Ride," 2 Colorado Triple Bypasses and more centuries than I can remember. Am doing the Colorado Copper Triangle 3-mountain-pass 85-miler first weekend of August. The Kel-tec will be riding along, with a lot of Advil...
Michael b
Am going to get one of the 9mm Kel-Tecs to replace the little .32...I use a velcro strap to hold the gun pouch stable on my leg.
I ride an ancient Trek 5200 that I've overhauled with Shimano Dura-Ace components, specializing in long hauls. I have 3 Cross-Floridas, the California Alps/"Death Ride," 2 Colorado Triple Bypasses and more centuries than I can remember. Am doing the Colorado Copper Triangle 3-mountain-pass 85-miler first weekend of August. The Kel-tec will be riding along, with a lot of Advil...
Michael b
kungfuhippie
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Cosmoline's got the right idea-keep it off the waist and the belly-you need to breath well and a belly rig will hinder that. Waste will be worse with hip movement.
BothellBob
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MillCreek,
Yes, we have likely passed on the trail.
The rest of youse guys,
Remember the "Bicycle Gun"? S&W New Departure (lemon-squeezer) with the short barrel was called such (as were other topbreaks). Also the Velodog and various Belgian revolvers with folding triggers (no trigger guard) in .320 British Revolver (but 32 Short Colt fits). These are all small enough to fit most anywhere (except your back pocket, no point in ruining your comfort on that nice, cushy recumbent seat!).
-BothellBob
Yes, we have likely passed on the trail.
The rest of youse guys,
Remember the "Bicycle Gun"? S&W New Departure (lemon-squeezer) with the short barrel was called such (as were other topbreaks). Also the Velodog and various Belgian revolvers with folding triggers (no trigger guard) in .320 British Revolver (but 32 Short Colt fits). These are all small enough to fit most anywhere (except your back pocket, no point in ruining your comfort on that nice, cushy recumbent seat!).
-BothellBob
rdaines
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I bike (Trek) and carry in a fanny or hip pack. It's also handy for carrying other things too that one might need along the way. Access may be a little slower that a holster but not much, rip cord openers help rather than fumbling with little zippers. Just make sure the gun is oriented in the right direction for grabbing from the pack.
rwc
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Here is an option I like. Fit it close and you can wear a loose T-shirt or coat over (depending upon weather) along with any kind of lycra shorts/tights.
A friend who rides and is a local LEO simply carries everything in a pannier. And before folks start going on about rabid weasels, etc.
think for a minute about the probability of needing a firearm while on the bike and your ability to effectively use it while on the bike. Unless you practice shooting while riding, you're going to have hard time hitting what you aim at...
A friend who rides and is a local LEO simply carries everything in a pannier. And before folks start going on about rabid weasels, etc.
think for a minute about the probability of needing a firearm while on the bike and your ability to effectively use it while on the bike. Unless you practice shooting while riding, you're going to have hard time hitting what you aim at...
A Wilderness Safepacker will accomodate firearms up to quite large in size. Mocean makes bike pants and shorts with belt loops, aimed at the police bike patrol market. The Safepacker can be worn in belt mode, as a glorified flap holster. These Mocean pants and shorts do not have the padded inserts, and are worn over whatever padded things a person wants to wear. For the rare times I do wear just the lycra stuff, I use an Eagle Creek "fanny" pack to hold an SP101 snubby. If the biggest thing I am carrying is a snubby, I like to have more than one of them, so another can ride in a handlebar bag. When I first started riding road bikes ten years ago, I started out with the all-lycra look, but quickly realized it's more practical to compromise a bit. Tight lycra outfits may be the way to go for racing, but for a workout ride, errand, commute, etc., I don't see the point. FWIW, I don't do pacelines; I guess it may be necessary to satisfy the style/fashion police to be accepted into a paceline.
Rack Trunk
While others have a point about getting separated from your bike, I have never had a problem accessing items in a rack trunk quickly. I also would not want to take a fall on a loaded firearm. Items stored in a rack trunk do not get sweaty or interfere with your breathing, which is a big plus. They can also be secured better and almost any handgun may be concealed there. It does not really change the feel of the bike. Just don't turn into a packrat and fill all that new storage space.
While others have a point about getting separated from your bike, I have never had a problem accessing items in a rack trunk quickly. I also would not want to take a fall on a loaded firearm. Items stored in a rack trunk do not get sweaty or interfere with your breathing, which is a big plus. They can also be secured better and almost any handgun may be concealed there. It does not really change the feel of the bike. Just don't turn into a packrat and fill all that new storage space.
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