Any humans shot with .32 magnum rounds yet?

[Chompiras]

Okay, so I know that it's a rather morose topic to discuss. But being as how my EDC is an LCR in 327, I cant help but to at least ponder the question. The 327 has been around for nearly 10 years and the 32h&r mag since '84. Anyone privy to hearing of actual human shootings with one of these rounds?

 

[RealGun]

32 H&R Magnum is a step up from 32 Smith & Wesson Long, the latter of which used to be standard issue for police. The 32 caliber is the key to a small gun being more than a 5-shooter, so there is something to be said for that. My 32 H&R Ruger SP101 3+" is a regular carry in hot weather. I have fired it once without hearing protection and believe the report would not be too damaging, should I need to use the gun in self defense. Keep in mind that some people carry 22s with some level of confidence, so it's hard to say what one should carry (or not).

 

[Deaf Smith]

I'm sure people have been shot with guns similar to the .32 magnum rounds. .30 Mauser, .30 Lugar, .30 Tork... They were all used in WW1 and 2. So expect results similar to those three.

Deaf

 

[buster94]

I had an SP101 in 327 mag. When I first got it all I could find was .32 S&W ammo. I shot the gun and thought wow this is like shooting a 22. I then got some 327 mags and when I shot the gun I thought holly moely what the heck is this. I shot it three times and put it up. My LCR 357 is less punishing than the SP101 327 with stock grips. The recoil was hand punishing to say the least. I then ordered a set of Hogue Tammers for it that made a huge difference.
The 32 or 32 mag I imagine either would have more than enough power to end someone's life. Like is said any caliber is capable depending on shot placement. Many people have been killed by a 22 because the bullet can travel to who knows where from where it entered the body. Supposedly the 22lr has been referred to as the hit round because it can't hardly be traced back to the gun it was shot from.

 

[RealGun]

I had an SP101 in 327 mag. When I first got it all I could find was .32 S&W ammo. I shot the gun and thought wow this is like shooting a 22. I then got some 327 mags and when I shot the gun I thought holly moely what the heck is this. I shot it three times and put it up. My LCR 357 is less punishing than the SP101 327 with stock grips. The recoil was hand punishing to say the least. I then ordered a set of Hogue Tammers for it that made a huge difference.
The 32 or 32 mag I imagine either would have more than enough power to end someone's life. Like is said any caliber is capable depending on shot placement. Many people have been killed by a 22 because the bullet can travel to who knows where from where it entered the body. Supposedly the 22lr has been referred to as the hit round because it can't hardly be traced back to the gun it was shot from.

The 100 grain Federal is really potent but they have (had?) an 85 grain tamer load you should try. That one is kind of a magnum101 round rather than the beast many people think of.

 

[ThomasT]

I am a 32 mag fan and I asked Evan Marshall if there had been any shootings with a 32 mag and he said at that time there hadn't been. That was probably 6-8 years ago.

 

[dickydalton]

OK I'm sorry.

 

[Water-Man]

That means NO.
I'm betting that hardly anyone carries them, for a good reason.

Go ahead boys, start ripping on me about your favorite mouse gun in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1,,,,,,,,,,,,[/QUO

"Ignorance is bliss".

 

[Mayvik]

Go ahead boys, start ripping on me about your favorite mouse gun in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1,,,,,,,,,,,,

Trollol

115gr @1300fps...sounds like a mousegun to me.

 

[lincen]

Really like the 32 H&R magnum round. Just bought a Ruger LCR 327 and shot it on Sunday. The 327 rounds have a very noticeable recoil but with that Tamer grip it was fine, no pain in my arthritic hands. That said, I will probably carry it with the 32 H&R rounds.

 

[RealGun]

That means NO.
I'm betting that hardly anyone carries them, for a good reason.

Go ahead boys, start ripping on me about your favorite mouse gun in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1,,,,,,,,,,,,

What do they call it when you are baiting an argument?

32 H&R is rare enough so that using one in a shooting incident would not be that statistic of something like 38 Special. And who is privy to such statistics?

32 H&R guns of the nicer grade command a high enough price to discourage owning one or using it as an EDC.

Gun and ammo manufacturers cannot be counted on to support anything long term except 38 Spl, 357 Mag, and 44 Mag revolvers. 45 Colt hangs on only by way of Cowboy guns and mild shooting, lead ammo.

 

[lincen]

As much as I like the various 32 caliber pistol rounds it has made me look into reloading for the first time. I don't think these rounds will ever disappear but they will get expensive.

 

[Walkalong]

What do they call it when you are baiting an argument?

Trolling, so y'all please just resist the temptation.

Stick to the topic the OP put forth. They want info on the .32 Magnum and how it has done in shootings, if there is any data.

 

[lincen]

A quick Google search of "gun deaths by caliber" will give you a lot of data. Most of it is several years old and some took many years to compile. As to 327 or 32H&R they would probably be mixed in with the .32 caliber data. Plus since the 327 is so new there would be very little chance of any data. I know a lot of gun folks that say, " you mean 357 don't you?" Regardless of data, both of those rounds are adequate for personal defense.

 

[loose noose]

My first .32 Long was a CCW firearm I carried as a new police officer in southern California off duty as was required by all officers of my department back then. Fortunately I never had to use it. When the money situation improved I sold that old Harrington and Richardson for about $50.00 to an old acquaintance, and purchased a Colt Detective Special .38Special which I still have. I was able to qualify with that old .32 long, but never really felt comfortable carrying it for some reason.

 

[dickydalton]

I said I was sorry, OK? Now, list the data requested by the OP. I'm not trolling now I want to see all the data that backs the 32 Magnums up for being good CCW guns.

 

[Walkalong]

I doubt there is a lot out there, as not many carry the round. I do agree with the poster who pointed out that many folks carry smaller calibers and are happy. Sure, some folks think carrying a small caliber is silly, or even stupid, but it is what it is and the OP is just asking for data.

The OP says he carries a .327, which is a big step up from .32 Mag. I bet there is even less data on it, and I want no part of the ear splitting muzzle blast, but it does have some hefty power numbers, on paper.

The OP is looking for data on either caliber.

 

[Varminterror]

45 Colt hangs on only by way of Cowboy guns and mild shooting, lead ammo.

Come now, RG... The 45 colt's outlook isn't quite as bleak as all that - it enjoys a happy following in M25's and Redhawk's (and super Redhawk's, for that matter). Certainly not in the volume of the single action 45c revolvers, nor in the DA or SA 44mag hunting revolvers, but the old Colt is still hanging on strong, with more followers than just fellas running around with stick horses in their gun carts.

To the topic at hand, however, I've not heard/read any accounts of 32 caliber cartridges being used in defensive shootings which are fresher than any which were rehashed in the early 2000's when Ruger tried to revive the 32H&R.

In the killing of animals with 32H&R and 327FM, I can say it's not as potent as 38spcl, but it is sufficient. Certainly more potent than .380acp. My only 327FM currently is a 4" SP101, as even though I am a huge fan of the 32 caliber magnums, I find myself better suited with other options. For a firearm of the size of the LCR or SP101, I prefer more punch in .38spcl or 357, even 9mm frankly, and for something in its power class, I can carry a smaller pistol, like the LCP or LC9.

For small and medium game hunting, on the other hand, I find more pleasure in very few things than I do in the .32H&R or .327FM. If I can get my new mill running right and get a mount cut, I'll be quite content to have an Ultradot on my 4" SP101 for smoking bunnies, and maybe start improving my average on coyotes with it.

 

[Walkalong]

Come now, RG... The 45 colt's outlook isn't quite as bleak as all that - it enjoys a happy following

I would agree, many .45 Colt fans out here who don't shoot Cowboy Action.

But that's off topic. Bad Walkalong.

 

[Chompiras]

I doubt there is a lot out there, as not many carry the round. I do agree with the poster who pointed out that many folks carry smaller calibers and are happy. Sure, some folks think carrying a small caliber is silly, or even stupid, but it is what it is and the OP is just asking for data.

The OP says he carries a .327, which is a big step up from .32 Mag. I bet there is even less data on it, and I want no part of the ear splitting muzzle blast, but it does have some hefty power numbers, on paper.

The OP is looking for data on either caliber.

Thank you. I just asked the initial question out of pure curiosity. I DO personally feel comfortable carrying the 327 LCR as a self defense revolver and think that it's a very capable round. You are right about the blast though!

 

[Water-Man]

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[Varminterror]

I did forget to mention in my first post - I won't say I've personally noted a real marked offset between the 32H&R and the 327FM. I'm typically within 100-150fps with my H&R loads to my FM loads. There's no reason they can't be loaded to the same pressure, one simply has a longer case, and in that tiny diameter, slightly longer doesn't mean much larger actual powder capacity. The gap between the 32 H&R and the 327FM is much, much smaller than those between the 38 & 357 or 44spcl and mag, let alone colt and Casull or 480 and 475L. 10% in velocity sure seems like a lot in terms of kinetic energy, but kinetic energy isn't much more than marketing in terms of killing power.

 

[GRIZ22]

My first .32 Long was a CCW firearm I carried as a new police officer in southern California off duty as was required by all officers of my department back then. Fortunately I never had to use it. When the money situation improved I sold that old Harrington and Richardson for about $50.00 to an old acquaintance, and purchased a Colt Detective Special .38Special which I still have. I was able to qualify with that old .32 long, but never really felt comfortable carrying it for some reason.

Which CA PD required you to carry a 32 off duty. Just curious.

 

[roscoe]

I would agree, many .45 Colt fans out here who don't shoot Cowboy Action.

But that's off topic. Bad Walkalong.

Yeah, what? My Blackhawk is bear insurance. And my .45 Trapper.

My only complaint with .32 is that it requires velocity to be effective, which translates to blast/noise. If you ever had to touch off a .327 indoors in self-defense you would soon be talking by waving your your hands. BTW - the .45 Colt can be loaded low-pressure and is a great nightstand gun for that reason.

 

[Chompiras]

I agree with the 45 colt being a great home defense round, and I've actually been considering a redhawk in 45 for that purpose. As it stands, my only guns are the lcr and my uberti 1860 army repro. While I stated that i'm comfortable with the 327 for self defense in capability, I don't think it's optimal for home defense simply due to the blast. It is my current nightstand/EDC, but I just may be more inclined to whip out the ol' 1860 for a home defense scenario due to this! J/K. My current carry ammo are the buffalo bore 100gr JHPs which have the flash suppressor powder, so perhaps i'd only go deaf instead of blind .

45 colt is here to stay. I'm more nervous about 327, and I do applaud the companies which offer guns chambered in it. Congrats on Henry for offering the big boy in 327, as well as 41mag and 45colt. I think that it would be great in any of those.