Any info about ASM BP revolver that looks like a single action?

[ChasMack]

I was on GB and had been bidding on a Armi San Marco black powder pistol that looked like a 1873 single action but with the "thunderer" grip. The fellow selling it had little knowledge of it. I have not been able to find any info. It was a black powder pistol that you had to take the cylinder out to load it. I am not sure how one would load the bullet if it was a tight fit, unless the cylinder would fit one of those rammer set ups. I would post a pic if I had one. Would have liked to have one of those. Any info much appreciated. I'll try to load a pic or the address.

 

[Cosmoline]

That pic appears to be of a cartridge version, not a cap and ball. The very short BBL variants would not have the cartridge ejector, so you'd just remove the cylinder, pop the cartridges out by pen or whatever, and then pop in new cartridges and stick the cylinder back in.

 

[ChasMack]

ASM

The cylinder has nipples for BP

 

[Gaucho Gringo]

These were mainly made for the European market for a SAA looking gun that was not a cartridge gun for cowboy action shooters because most of the countries have such draconian restrictions on handguns that are not muzzleloading.

 

[Cosmoline]

The cylinder has nipples for BP

Oh I see. I think that's just some kind of substitute cylinder and it would have to be loaded by separate press. I've seen other SAA type revolvers built as actual cap and balls. But the cylinder means nothing here, so that revolver would still be NICS. Can you post to the GB listing?

 

[Jaymo]

The ejector rod may just be there for looks.
An SAA without an ejector rod would look funny.

 

[wap41]

I have three copies of the 1873 colt saa made as percussion revolvers.Uberti made them and traditions still does.

 

[mykeal]

Traditions doesn't 'make' anything. They're strictly a distributor/retailer.

There's a whole lot more 'different' about that revolver than the cylinder. The ejector is strictly cosmetic and has no useful purpose. The hammer and frame are also unique in that the 'firing pin' is offset from the center. This was done on purpose so that the gun cannot use a cartridge cylinder. It is not a 'NICS gun' (I assume by that you mean a firearm under the GCA 68 definition, which requires an FFL transfer to change hands).

I own a Uberti version, and I've seen Peittas but never an ASM. I wasn't aware they had made any.

 

[zimmerstutzen]

I think diixie sold those about the early 1980's

 

[ChasMack]

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=351569616

This is the listing. I waited to bid and "buy now" won it. I could kick myself now. If anyone knows where one of these are for sale, I'd appreciate the info!

 

[Gaucho Gringo]

A few years back they were selling new for around $200.00

 

[Cosmoline]

Thanks for that info mykael. Though other than the offset pin hole that sure looks like a regular cartridge frame to my eye. I found some more examples here:

http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=543944

 

[robhof]

robhof

Sportsmans Guide sold ASM b/p copies of the Peacemaker awhile back.