Another ASM with Colt Barrel Address

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So "AI" is 1982, just one year earlier than my "AL" Richland.

I wonder what date Willie's Richland is.

Anybody heard from Willie lately?

I think the last post I saw from him was on the start up of the THR 1851/1860 Club almost a year ago.

That reminds me, he was supposed to post pictures of his guns when he got back as part of the Club's entry requirements.
 
Wow! That is the first I have ever seen like that.

That is an interesting set with even the flask marked.

I know some of the RA, Texas models were ASM but I am not sure about their Walkers.

The picture of the Walker in the 1964 ASM catalog is too small to be of much help and the cylinder description only says it has a famous engraved Indian fight scene.

The pictures in my earliest EMF catalogs do not show that side of the cylinder but they do show rectangular cylinder stop holes while this one has the more historically correct oval holes.

Maybe it is Uberti???
 
Here is another ASM Walker with a Colt marked cylinder, can't tell if the barrel address is there. Also looks like it has markings on the right side of the barrel which is where my ASM Walker has the Richland Arms markings, so I suspect this is a Richland Arms Walker. What makes this gun even more interesting to me is it has a grip shape just like a Colt 2nd Gen Walker, with the rounded tail.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=532801559
 
Here's a Replica Arms Walker from 1963 with fake Colt cylinder markings that read:
00LI'8 PATENT. That's just silly. I do like the case, it looks to be roughly patterned off a real Civilian Walker case.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=528184124
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There is your answer right there. A revolver date coded 1963 and way before Colt got involved with black powder revolvers. They (ASM and other Italian manufacturers) just stamped them knowing that Colt couldn't do anything about it so why not?
 
Lonesomepigeon - I had looked at that one and enlarged the two photos that showed the top flat at a slightly oblique angle.

Both photos showed an unbroken shiny flat surface so I did not bother asking the seller about it.

The last time I asked a seller about the top flat of an ASM, he said he forgot to post that picture, posted it, and before I saw his reply someone beat me to it on a "Buy It Now."

Live and Learn!!!

This one does have an "AH" date code so it is in the right time frame.

It is a beautiful specimen.
 
There is your answer right there. A revolver date coded 1963 and way before Colt got involved with black powder revolvers. They (ASM and other Italian manufacturers) just stamped them knowing that Colt couldn't do anything about it so why not?
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Back then I don't think Colt (the modern-day company) really cared until they realized that they could make a profit on "real" Colt replicas. IIRC, lotsa modern Colt C&B revolvers had Italian parts. All of the patents have long since run out, so what could modern-day Colt do about it anyway?
 
Expat, Colt still owns the Colt name and they are still a going company so it's likely nobody can use the Colt name or do anything that could confuse the consumer into thinking they are purchasing a genuine Colt product.
 
I think that the Colt law suit was a myth but that doesn't mean that a phone call from the Colt lawyers did not influence the Italians to cease and desist.

A phone call from Colt would get my attention!

They sure are not marking them "Colt" anymore!
 
Ephraim, somewhere I remember reading a post wherein someone said Colt never actually sued Armi San Marco, rather they convinced US Customs not to let any more Colt marked ASM's into the country.

But the main reason for bringing this thread back to the top is I saw this, an Armi San Marco Walker with "COLT'S PATENT" cylinder, Colt barrel address("ADDRESS. SAML COLT NEW-YORK CITY" as per personal communication with the seller) and "A COMPANY No. XX" markings on the left side barrel and frame. I have never seen or heard of an ASM with company markings and was wondering if anyone else had?

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=547883755
 
Nice find LonesomePigeon!

That is the first Co. marked one I have seen as well.

The marking looks pretty well done but I wonder if it was done after market.
 
I just acquired a .36 caliber 1851 ASM with Colt barrel address:

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The date code appears to be AN for 1985 but the "N" is very lightly struck.

The collection continues to grow.
 
Nice find Ephraim. That's the first ASM 1851 Navy I've seen with Colt markings. I take it just the barrel is marked with Colt markings and not the cylinder or frame? I don't think I have ever seen an ASM with Colt markings on the frame.
 
LonesomePigeon - The cylinder does have "COLTS PATENT No" with the lower case "o" in No" raised to line up with the top of the "N" and then a blank space where the serial would be on a Colt product.

I gave up trying to get a picture of it - Sorry.

You are correct that there is no "COLTS PATENT" on the frame and I agree that none of the marked ASM's we have found so far has that marking.

Mine is also marked "ASM BLACK POWDER ONLY" under the loading lever.
 
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