Any Issues Putting New Trigger On Old Rem 700?

[otisrush]

I assume there is no problem in doing the scenario below - but I'd be interested in input people might have.

I have 2 Remington 700s. One is brand new - .243 varmint model. I'm tricking it out with a nice scope and varmint stock. A new Timney trigger for it arrives tomorrow. Since the .243 rifle is brand new - it has the X-Mark Pro trigger in it.

My other Remington 700 is a .270 ADL that was made in the mid-70s. I don't hunt any more, but I do occasionally take this thing to the range and do some reasonably long range steel gong shooting. It still shoots wonderfully well.

Rather than put the X-Mark Pro trigger in a box on a shelf - I figure it's a better trigger than what is in the '70's era rifle right now. (I haven't actually done a detailed check to see how the two compare.)

So - does anyone see any issue in putting that new trigger in a 40+ year old rifle? Has anything changed in the design that would make old and new Rem 700s incompatible?

Thanks.

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[LoonWulf]

ive installed an xmark pro on 2 90s era 700s. I actually like them, and have found no reason to upgrade to a aftermarket trigger.
installation and function are the same, The xmarks change what the individual screws do. Id suggest looking the xmark over before installing it cleaning off the lawyer goop, and checking out what the screws down now as they have changed some of the functions.

 

[redneck2]

If you happen to send the rifles back to Remington for any reason, they will remove your new trigger and install one of theirs.

 

[otisrush]

If you happen to send the rifles back to Remington for any reason, they will remove your new trigger and install one of theirs.

Interesting! I didn't know that. They'll just take it out and put in whatever they consider current?

I presume it's to help protect them if there is a problem down the line? Along the lines of "Hey, it's not my fault! Remington sent it to me in that condition!"

Thanks.

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[redneck2]

There was a post a number of years ago. Somebody sent a rifle back with either a Timney or Jewell. Got a less than pleasant surprise when it came back with a factory trigger

 

[homers]

I assume the new 243 trigger is post recall, something like mid 2014 - should work fine in your old 700. I believe all 700 triggers pre 2014 are part of the recall now, so you could send it to Remington (follow the return instructions) and they'll replace the trigger for you free of charge.

 

[otisrush]

I assume the new 243 trigger is post recall, something like mid 2014 - should work fine in your old 700. I believe all 700 triggers pre 2014 are part of the recall now, so you could send it to Remington (follow the return instructions) and they'll replace the trigger for you free of charge.

Yes - the .243 is brand new. I bought it new and picked it up just 2 months ago.

I just checked Remington's website. The recall goes back to rifles manufactured in 2006.

Thanks!

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[jmr40]

Properly adjusted the original trigger you have on the 1970's era rifle will be a smoother trigger than the X-Mark. But no matter how well adjusted, it is still one of the Walker design triggers that on rare occasions fail and allow the gun to fire with no trigger pull. The X-Mark trigger isn't as smooth, but the design flaw has been corrected.

The possibility of having a gun discharge is very slim, but the danger is also very real. I'd probably do the swap, the X-Mark will fit the older gun and is acceptable. I'd give up a slightly better trigger for the reassurance of a safer trigger.

Don't listen to the crowd that constantly cry that as long as the trigger isn't improperly adjusted the rifle will never fail. They are 1/2 right. Any rifle with an improperly adjusted trigger can fail and some of the cases of Remington's doing this are because of bubba'd trigger jobs. But it is also well documented that they can and will fail straight off the assembly line if things inside the trigger line up just right.

 

[Hookeye]

The factory spring (the little one) in a Walker is best summed up as "all or nothing".
They have a small working range.
Adjusting them can put them near the edge, or over it.
Best is to REPLACE them with springs that are a bit longer, thinner wire.
I have done this on ALL my Walkers, even my 600's.
Can dang near split the stocks bashing them and they won't trip.
But they are under 2# so people who can't keep their fingers out of the guard or lack feeling and ride the side.........will trip them.
Keep fingers off triggers, out of trigger guards, and point in a safe direction (no mater what gun you have).
The X mark Pro sucks in comparison. Is usable.......tolerable maybe. But not shooting for a while..........yeah it feels maybe even decent.
Within 10 shots I'm pulling pulling pulling waiting for the thing to go.
Love my old triggers.
Kills me how so many folks gunk up their guns, adjust stuff unsafe......or don't seal adjustment screws.
Bought a Model 7 the owner jacked up, and a 600...............both unsafe. Both taken to shops and "dumped". If I hadn't gotten them, some poor slob might have killed somebody by not following the rules.
BTW, one can unload a 600/700 without racking all live rounds in and out of the chamber.
But watch people.............90% crank that bolt like they're on meth.
Ridiculous.

 

[Milt1]

Yes - the .243 is brand new. I bought it new and picked it up just 2 months ago.

I just checked Remington's website. The recall goes back to rifles manufactured in 2006.

Thanks!

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I took a friend of mine that had a Remington .270 (don't remember if it was a ADL or BDL) to my range with two other friends. The owner of the .270 loaded the magazine and then cycled the bolt and as soon as the bolt closed the rifle went off. His finger was nowhere near the trigger and three of us witnessed the event. He sent the rifle to Remington and they fixed the problem but I don't know what they did? My friend purchased the rifle new back in the '70's. I don't trust any of the old Remingtons and in my opinion the recall should extend further back than 2006.

 

[LoonWulf]

I took a friend of mine that had a Remington .270 (don't remember if it was a ADL or BDL) to my range with two other friends. The owner of the .270 loaded the magazine and then cycled the bolt and as soon as the bolt closed the rifle went off. His finger was nowhere near the trigger and three of us witnessed the event. He sent the rifle to Remington and they fixed the problem but I don't know what they did? My friend purchased the rifle new back in the '70's. I don't trust any of the old Remingtons and in my opinion the recall should extend further back than 2006.

There are two separate recalls, one effects replacment of the old "walker" trigger, what all the guns came with prior to the Xmark.

The second is for the newer Xmark, which I believe is due to the over zealous application of lawyer goop to the adjustment screws which can gum up the mechanisms and cause issues.

I wasnt aware of the second one till recently.
I bought both my xmark pro triggers off ebay in 09/10 for about 20 apiece, because everyone viewed them as junk to be immediately replaced. Before installing i took them apart and cleaned the crap out.

 

[LoonWulf]

http://www.jardinc.com/new-page-4/

For those whom might be interested. Jard sells replacment parts for the stock housing. Ive never seen those till just now, I think that might be a neat option for some folks.

 

[otisrush]

The second is for the newer Xmark, which I believe is due to the over zealous application of lawyer goop to the adjustment screws which can gum up the mechanisms and cause issues.

How ironic: Such concern about keeping people out of trouble by hindering the ability to adjust them (lawyer goop) that the lawyer goop causes a recall.

I just relooked at the Remington site and I only see one Mod 700 recall - the XMP one that has gotten discussed.

Thanks.

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[LoonWulf]

The Remington recall site is a little ambiguous. The #1 statement pertains to the walker triggers, which i guess are not "officially" under recall, but will be changed out to a new XMP free of charge.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.cnbc...u-need-to-know.html?client=ms-android-verizon
Ran across that, and it does an ok job of translating the recall sites wording.

 

[illinoisburt]

I called Remington about this a couple months ago when the news stories came out about a settlement. It's a 'voluntary' recall. They will replace any walker trigger with a new xmark free of charge if you ask. Was told turn around time might be slow, like possibly a couple months. Hopefully that has improved.