Any Personal Experience With the Robinson XCR?
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Evil Monkey
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Man, I was looking forward to getting an XCR some day but then when I heard that their 7.62x39mm conversion kit was NOT going to make use of existing AK-47 magazines, I said forget about it. Hopefully, the SCAR and Masada won't make that mistake.
I don't feel like buying expensive proprietary mags that may be around 30-60 bucks each. Same with the US Steyr AUG, if I can't get a version that takes m16 STANAG mags, forget about it!
I don't feel like buying expensive proprietary mags that may be around 30-60 bucks each. Same with the US Steyr AUG, if I can't get a version that takes m16 STANAG mags, forget about it!
I predict that the main problem with the XCR will be the company that manufactures it. Robarm has a history of making some odd decisions re: marketing and customer service. They have not exactly deviated far from this path with their "available in two weeks" mantra that went on for a few months.
Of course, like S&W and their M&P-series, Robarm might realize that they have a lot riding on this product, and might very well do it right. We'll see.
The other thing that might sink the XCR is the Masada. Of course, the XCR has beat Magpul to market, but if the Masada is better it can suck up a lot of space in a pretty small niche.
Mike
Of course, like S&W and their M&P-series, Robarm might realize that they have a lot riding on this product, and might very well do it right. We'll see.
The other thing that might sink the XCR is the Masada. Of course, the XCR has beat Magpul to market, but if the Masada is better it can suck up a lot of space in a pretty small niche.
Mike
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Correia's review is available in the October 2006 issue. You can download it for $5. If you're interested in the rifle, it's worth the money I think.
I played with one briefly, but don't own it.. I like how Robarm handled the bolt and ejector, though I'm less sold on the big chunky piston. (The carrier group is essentially AK-style, but a little cruder looking).
In the end though, it was Coronach's point that kept me from plunking down the money on one. I just didn't trust RobArm's customer service record.
-K
I played with one briefly, but don't own it.. I like how Robarm handled the bolt and ejector, though I'm less sold on the big chunky piston. (The carrier group is essentially AK-style, but a little cruder looking).
In the end though, it was Coronach's point that kept me from plunking down the money on one. I just didn't trust RobArm's customer service record.
-K
Chuck R.
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I also looked hard at the XCR before ordering a Colt LE6920 last week.
Every review I read about the XCR was pretty positive really, it could prove to be a big improvement over AR series rifles.
What got me was the companies track record, and the possible impact of a AWBII. IF the AWB does come to pass, and ROBARM has no substantial military contracts (it's reported they do have an overseas contract) what will become of the company and the rifle?
The other feature I wasn't too psyched about was the 7.5 lb weight empty, without sights and non-gadgetized. One review I read said that scoped with a loaded 30 rd mag it pushed about 9.5 lbs.
Like I said though, every report I've read has been favorable so far.
Chuck
Every review I read about the XCR was pretty positive really, it could prove to be a big improvement over AR series rifles.
What got me was the companies track record, and the possible impact of a AWBII. IF the AWB does come to pass, and ROBARM has no substantial military contracts (it's reported they do have an overseas contract) what will become of the company and the rifle?
The other feature I wasn't too psyched about was the 7.5 lb weight empty, without sights and non-gadgetized. One review I read said that scoped with a loaded 30 rd mag it pushed about 9.5 lbs.
Like I said though, every report I've read has been favorable so far.
Chuck
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I can't believe I am the first actual owner to post here. The one sentance review is that I liked the first one so much I bought a second.
The long version and poorly organized version:
The XCR balances like a typical RRA carbine. The fit between the upper and lower is typical of the AR's I have handled but not as tight as National Match type ARs. The trigger is not very light but breaks clean. The lower stock makes aquiring the irons faster than an AR and works great with the Eotech I have on one of my XCRs. It does not work as well for the TR21 (magnified optic) I have on my other XCR. The standard folding stock is well built and so is the fixed version althought the length of pull on the the fixed version is slightly too short. I intend to get a folding collapsing adapter and a Duostock to see how that combo works with the XCR. The bolt release is a big step up from every other gun but it is loose with no mag in the gun. The short throw safety is a nice touch and left side charging handle reminds me of my STG58.
The as far as accuracy, both of mine will hold 1.5MOA with ADCOM M855. The barrel gets warm but the handguard never gets too hot to touch. The adjustable gas valve is a great feature as each lower setting brings a noticable decrease in recoil.
As far as maintence, the quick change barrel makes cleaning easy. The XCR also stays remarkably free of fouling compared to an AK, likely due to the way the piston is not tapered in the middle like an AK piston. Just remember to keep oil out of the gas valve or it will clog and cause stove pipes. In Corriea's review he mentions the bolt carrier just falls out. That is true but you know it is coming so catch it. If you happen to drop it at night out in the field it will be alot easier to find than the cotter pin or extractor pin from your AR's bolt carrier if you were to drop those.
The long version and poorly organized version:
The XCR balances like a typical RRA carbine. The fit between the upper and lower is typical of the AR's I have handled but not as tight as National Match type ARs. The trigger is not very light but breaks clean. The lower stock makes aquiring the irons faster than an AR and works great with the Eotech I have on one of my XCRs. It does not work as well for the TR21 (magnified optic) I have on my other XCR. The standard folding stock is well built and so is the fixed version althought the length of pull on the the fixed version is slightly too short. I intend to get a folding collapsing adapter and a Duostock to see how that combo works with the XCR. The bolt release is a big step up from every other gun but it is loose with no mag in the gun. The short throw safety is a nice touch and left side charging handle reminds me of my STG58.
The as far as accuracy, both of mine will hold 1.5MOA with ADCOM M855. The barrel gets warm but the handguard never gets too hot to touch. The adjustable gas valve is a great feature as each lower setting brings a noticable decrease in recoil.
As far as maintence, the quick change barrel makes cleaning easy. The XCR also stays remarkably free of fouling compared to an AK, likely due to the way the piston is not tapered in the middle like an AK piston. Just remember to keep oil out of the gas valve or it will clog and cause stove pipes. In Corriea's review he mentions the bolt carrier just falls out. That is true but you know it is coming so catch it. If you happen to drop it at night out in the field it will be alot easier to find than the cotter pin or extractor pin from your AR's bolt carrier if you were to drop those.
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No experience here - but John Farnam loves 'em.
I don't have personal experience with one, BUT there's an XCR owner that frequents the range where I'm a member, and I've seen him out with it a few times. The last time out I asked him about it.
He's been generally positive about it. Usually he's trying to tweak it for groups. I think he's been getting 1-2MOA but don't know the ammo type.
jm
He's been generally positive about it. Usually he's trying to tweak it for groups. I think he's been getting 1-2MOA but don't know the ammo type.
jm
MD_Willington
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I've held one.. that's about it.
TOU
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There is also a positive review in Augusts Shotgun News,
As an update to the SWAT review
The XCR does now ship the 6.8SPC
Different twists can be available (I have a heavy barrel 5.56 in 1:8)
The gas adjustment system is now availble so you can change without tools
Stocks are now available as Fixed, Folding, Collapsable VLTOR and Folding AND Collapsable M4 type
As an update to the SWAT review
The XCR does now ship the 6.8SPC
Different twists can be available (I have a heavy barrel 5.56 in 1:8)
The gas adjustment system is now availble so you can change without tools
Stocks are now available as Fixed, Folding, Collapsable VLTOR and Folding AND Collapsable M4 type
El Tejon
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So far, after my initial frustration with being able to buy one, very positive, but I have only been at the range with it. The true test will come in class later this year.
It's made no inroads against the AR here. I have just a few ARs as well.
It's made no inroads against the AR here. I have just a few ARs as well.
TOU
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Nice job! These things really are interesting rifles...spendy but interesting. Any further updates and thoughts? Are they shipping any faster?
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