Anybody like Webleys ?

[Gordon]

Here are my three I got left: top is a late model "safety" .38 S&W small frame from when they were sold as "the end of an Empire" about 25 years ago. It was left over from 70s production. With it's favorite load of WW231 and a 150 SWC it will shoot into 2" at 25 yards from sand bags. The middle revolver is a 1915 Mark V, still .455 and in excellent shape. With Fiocchi ammo it prints into 2" at 15 yards rested. I have utmost faith in how that 265 grain conical at 700 fps would protect me!
The Bottom gun is a 1917 Mark VI converted to .45acp. It is the second one I've owned . A better one was my 1925 made Mark VI, also converted to use full moon clipped .45acp, now sadly stolen 20 years ago. I used that first MK VI a lot in the 80s as a fool around gun.

 

[Jim K]

I would recommend against firing .45 ACP mil spec or equaivalent in the Mk VI (or any converted .455 revolver). The .45 ACP pressure is greater than the proof pressure for the .455 Webley, and there have been reports of blown out cylinders when using the standard .45 ACP, let alone the +P version.

Jim

 

[56hawk]

I have this Mark "IV" that was used by the South African Constabulary in 1906. It also has several South African police stampings on it. It's still in 455, and I load it light. A 230 grain lead bullet at 575 fps.

 

[Coal Dragger]

Does it make me strange to wonder what kind of magic Doug Turnbull could work on one of those? I know full well it would not be in keeping with the originals but I still wonder what could be done.

 

[natman]

Here's one of the last 250 Webley revolvers ever made:


Came in a presentation box with certificate, it's a polished blue 38/200.

 

[Salmoneye]

I have a 1943 Albion Motors No. 2, MK 1

 

[56hawk]

I have a 1943 Albion Motors No. 2, MK 1

Isn't that technically an Enfield revolver?

 

[Nushif]

*le drool*

I think I owe the Army a new keyboard already.

 

[Kaeto]

I love mine. It's a 1923 Enfield manufacture in .455. But it has been cut to accept .45 acp on moon clips. I load .45 acp and auto rim to Webley pressure levels with a .454 dia projectile.

 

[Salmoneye]

Isn't that technically an Enfield revolver?

Yah'but...

I wanted to play too...

*sniff*

 

[Billy Shears]

I like Webleys (except for the trigger, but there's not much you can do about that -- a Webley will never compare with an S&W or a Colt in the trigger).

I have one that was rescued after being owned by Bubba the home gunsmith. Seems Bubba wanted to shoot .45ACP in his Webley, and rather than acquire one that had been converted already, decided to take a nice, 1919 Webley Mk. VI, and convert it himself. Of course, he didn't do it by grinding down the rear of the cylinder, the way most converted ones were modified. No, he took a grinder to the face of the recoil shield (and frame)! Now he could shoot .45ACP rounds in moon clips in the Webley, and still chamber the original .455 rounds too. Of course, now the cartridges sat back too far in the cylinder, and the firing pin punched clean through the primer and into the case, but that's the price you pay for versatility.

I swear some people shouldn't be allowed near power tools.

Fortunately, David Chicoine, at Old West Gunsmith, found and installed a new recoil shield for me. The gun will never be more than a shooter, since Bubba's handiwork removed a bit of metal from the frame as well as the recoil shield, but at least the gun is safe to shoot again.

 

[forindooruseonly]

Nice! I particularly like the round butt version. Not sure what the proper term is but the look sweet.

 

[56hawk]

Nice! I particularly like the round butt version. Not sure what the proper term is but the look sweet.

Bird's head is the proper term. I do think they look way better than the other models.

 

[Vern Humphrey]

But remember the Ozark scale of ugliness:

1. Ugly
2. Real ugly
3. Ugly as an English revolver
4. Coyote ugly
5. Ugly as a thrombosed hemorrhoid
6. So ugly Maxine Waters sued for patent infringement.

 

[Kaeto]

So Vern you must show up on at scale at #7 'So ugly they have to tie a steak to you to get the vultures to eat you.'

 

[Vern Humphrey]

Actually, Maxine still holds the record.

 

[Jim NE]

I actually like the looks of Webleys, and love their history. I also love 56hawk's pic with the Kipling in the background.

As far as appearance, there's ugly, then there's Bella Abz-ugly. If you google images, you'll find mostly posed campaign photos of her, which weren't so bad. You have to find candid shots or video to get the full effect.

 

[56hawk]

I also love 56hawk's pic with the Kipling in the background.

I was wondering if anyone would notice that.

 

[NMGonzo]

stop it ... i only make 24 k a year.

 

[Dr.Rob]

Way back when Woolworth's of all places was selling those WW2 Enfield .38SW Weblys for less than a hundred bucks. Dad talked me out of it as a first revolver but I still wish I had bought one for grins.

 

[Salmoneye]

Way back when Woolworth's of all places was selling those WW2 Enfield .38SW Weblys for less than a hundred bucks. Dad talked me out of it as a first revolver but I still wish I had bought one for grins.

The story I have been told, was that Mom bought the Albion in my picture through the mail for $15 (plus postage) from an Ad in the back of a magazine in the late 50's...

Dad loved that gun...

 

[PabloJ]

Certainly. I would not mind owning one with 'Westley Richards' name on it. Actually I would rather have that one over any DA type made in los Estados Unidos. The .38/200 was the best military sidearm of second world war.

 

[Billy Shears]

Certainly. I would not mind owning one with 'Westley Richards' name on it. Actually I would rather have that one over any DA type made in los Estados Unidos. The .38/200 was the best military sidearm of second world war.

Uh... I like Webley's too, but you must be kidding. A peashooter .38S&W revolver, better than the 1911, better than the Radom, better than the Lahti, better than the P-38, better than the Hi Power? I don't think so.

Hell, even the British, according to Ian Hogg (a British firearms expert and historian) greatly preferred the lend-lease S&W Military & Police revolvers they got from us to either the Webley or Enfield revolvers in .38-200. Having owned examples of both, I fully agree. The S&W is simply a better revolver -- at least as reliable, and with a trigger so much better there is simply no comparison.

 

[SaxonPig]

I can also sneak an Enfield in? Bagged it at a local show about 3 years back for $100. The action was frozen solid so the dealer sold it for parts. I being wiser than that knew what the problem was and simply poured some solvent through it to wash out the hardened grease. Worked fine after that.

I load 158 grain lead bullets sized .358 (a tad under, I know) over enough Unique to get it up to around 800 FPS and it shoots 3" groups 10 yards (and it's DA only, remember).

 

[Billy Shears]

Nice Enfield, and sounds like a real steal. I've always wanted one of those Webley-clones (it's interesting how the British government essentially screwed Webley & Scott by stealing their design and having a close copy made by the gov't-owned Royal Small Arms Factory at Enfield), but I want one of the DA/SA ones without the bobbed hammer.