Hello I am either looking for someone who can make me a firing pin for my French Court "9" coups pistol chambered in 7.65 (.32 acp) who might know a source for one? Willing to pay what i need to acquire one. Numrich has none and gunbroker has been a unsuccessful. Thanks everyone
Anyone able to make me a Unique court "9" coups firing pin
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Kp321
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Semi auto firing pins can usually be turned out quickly on a lathe but either an example or blueprint is required.
rcmodel
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Luckily, your Unique pistol is hammer fired.
Which makes the firing pin a simple round steel rod.
As such, if you have the broken one to use as a patten?
Any gunsmith could make one in 15 minutes.
(Even on a drill press, using a file.)
Check around locally for someone who can duplicate it..
Rc
Which makes the firing pin a simple round steel rod.
As such, if you have the broken one to use as a patten?
Any gunsmith could make one in 15 minutes.
(Even on a drill press, using a file.)
Check around locally for someone who can duplicate it..
Rc
I do not have the original as it was already missing when i bought the pistol. The older owner solid because he was finding it difficult to find a replacement. I got and excellent deal on a nice condition pistol. I live in Canada where it has been difficult to find a willing gunsmith. Does anyone have one that I can get the pattern/dimensions from? best regards fellas
have you tried bobs http://www.gun-parts.com/unique/
I don't know if you can get that firing pin or if Bob's can export. Anyway, here is the information to make one:
Here are the Unique firing pin dimensions:
The pin is a two-step type, with a coil return spring around the front part. It is held in by a retaining pin inserted from the bottom of the slide. Since you are in Canada, I will give the measurements in millimeters.
Firing pin total length: 37.67mm
Length of large rear part: 23.23mm
Length of small front part: 14.44mm
Diameter of large part: 3.96mm
Diameter of small part: 2.15mm
Notch for retainer pin runs from 11.49mm from the back end to 16.98mm from back end.
Length of notch about 6.48mm, depth of notch 1.84mm. Slot ends are curved to fit with retainer pin.
Firing pin retainer pin diameter: 2.36mm (drive fit)
Firing pin retainer pin length: 6.71mm
Length of firing pin spring: 17.33mm
Outside diameter: 3.48mm
Radius all ends and the step to reduce chance of breakage. Round front of firing pin and bevel back end. The firing pin should be made of drill rod and hardened for durability, but it can be used unhardened for a few shots.
Dimensions are average; there is some variance in the measurements, but tolerances of the part are not critical.
Jim
Here are the Unique firing pin dimensions:
The pin is a two-step type, with a coil return spring around the front part. It is held in by a retaining pin inserted from the bottom of the slide. Since you are in Canada, I will give the measurements in millimeters.
Firing pin total length: 37.67mm
Length of large rear part: 23.23mm
Length of small front part: 14.44mm
Diameter of large part: 3.96mm
Diameter of small part: 2.15mm
Notch for retainer pin runs from 11.49mm from the back end to 16.98mm from back end.
Length of notch about 6.48mm, depth of notch 1.84mm. Slot ends are curved to fit with retainer pin.
Firing pin retainer pin diameter: 2.36mm (drive fit)
Firing pin retainer pin length: 6.71mm
Length of firing pin spring: 17.33mm
Outside diameter: 3.48mm
Radius all ends and the step to reduce chance of breakage. Round front of firing pin and bevel back end. The firing pin should be made of drill rod and hardened for durability, but it can be used unhardened for a few shots.
Dimensions are average; there is some variance in the measurements, but tolerances of the part are not critical.
Jim
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Sunray
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Isn't likely but try Western Gunparts in Edmonton. And assuming you have a Prohibited firearms licence.
http://www.westerngunparts.com/western_gun_parts_006.htm
http://www.westerngunparts.com/western_gun_parts_006.htm
Zeke/PA
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The firing pin should be heat treated also.
Use oil hardening drill rod, heat red drop in oil, ( motor oil is fine).
Polish bright and draw to a dark straw color in your kitchen oven set at it's highest setting.
If I was still employed, I'd gladly make the pin for you!
Sometimes retirement sucks !!
It would be nice for a member hear to make me one. I found a smith locally to make me one but it will cost $100+ and then I will have to heat treat it myself it seems. Shall I just use a regular torch to get it red hot before quench? Thank again guys. This has been the best gun board I have been apart of so far, very welcoming. Best regards
PS if anyone can recommend a smith that will do a 100% job, that they trust please let me know. I am still on the fence about the one I have been in contact with. Cheers everybody.
PS if anyone can recommend a smith that will do a 100% job, that they trust please let me know. I am still on the fence about the one I have been in contact with. Cheers everybody.
I am also having a tough time finding schematics or take down procedure to fully strip the Unique Court "9" Coups pistol. It would be nice as I would like to fully take it down and give it a good oil/cleaning. Anyone know a source? Thanks again fellas.
Sav .250
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Seems to me any competent Gun Smith could do that.
That Unique is pretty simple, but I would suggest not taking it down beyond field stripping unless you have to. Just get some spray gun cleaner and hose it down, or take off the grips and dunk it in a sonic tank to get rid of old grease and crud, then oil lightly around the hammer and trigger.
Jim
Jim
exospex
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$100 is a pretty fair price for a few hours of work by a skilled tradesman. As a machinist, I always had a laugh at the people who wanted me to make them something that they can buy off the shelf (not saying that is the case here) and then balk at the price I give them.
45_auto
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Jim K, is this what your firing pin looks like?
How much is a couple of hours of someone's time and the use of several thousand dollars of machinery worth to you?
5/32 drill rod is 0.15625" in diameter, would probably work perfectly. I might have a piece laying around.
Lcannon87 said:
How much is a couple of hours of someone's time and the use of several thousand dollars of machinery worth to you?
5/32 drill rod is 0.15625" in diameter, would probably work perfectly. I might have a piece laying around.
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rcmodel
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As I said earlier.
You could make that with a drill-press and a file in 15 minutes.
Now that you have the dimensions, gofer it!!
rc
You could make that with a drill-press and a file in 15 minutes.
Now that you have the dimensions, gofer it!!
rc
Excellent job, 45_Auto. I wish I could do it that well. It probably took as long to do that drawing as it would take to make the firing pin.
As others have noted, it is a simple firing pin. The gun is basically a French "Ruby", coming from Hendaye, which is right across the border from Eibar in Spain and part of the same Basque gun-making region. The French guns were usually better made, though and for a while they were imported and sold by Sears and others. The Unique Model 52 was a similar size gun in .22 LR which was sold here for several years.
During the German occupation, Unique made guns for them, though not of the peacetime quality. Those guns have the grip marked "9 Schuss", which means the same as "9 Coups".
Jim
As others have noted, it is a simple firing pin. The gun is basically a French "Ruby", coming from Hendaye, which is right across the border from Eibar in Spain and part of the same Basque gun-making region. The French guns were usually better made, though and for a while they were imported and sold by Sears and others. The Unique Model 52 was a similar size gun in .22 LR which was sold here for several years.
During the German occupation, Unique made guns for them, though not of the peacetime quality. Those guns have the grip marked "9 Schuss", which means the same as "9 Coups".
Jim
Agreed that even with just a drill press, turning the pin should be easy, but how exactly would you make the perpendicular retaining pin slot if one did not have the proper machinery?
Filing?
Zeke/PA
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A "safe edge" file would be a big help !
MachIVshooter
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Pretty well covered, I'll just add that music wire is an easily available and inexpensive material that works great for firing pins and extractors. A bit more difficult to work with than annealed drill rod or tool steels, but it's already through hardened and tempered, so unless you get it smokin' hot, no need to treat it afterward.
I have nothing against paying a skilled tradesmen for his time I was just trying to find a cheaper route. Thanks for all the help fellas. I already made an AutoCAD drawing and sent it off to a local smith. We shall see how it turns out. Warmest regards
Kp321
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I use "Fatigue Proof" steel from Brownells for firing pins. It is extremely tough and therefore hard to machine, but makes excellent firing pins with no heat treatment. Have not had one of my pins made with it fail in the 20 years I have been using it.
Hello all I know this is an old thread but I am still looking for help. Can anyone confirm if the dimensions/drawing given is for the hammerless model or hammer model? Or if they both use the same size/length of firing pin? Warmest regards.
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