Anyone carry with an empty chamber?

[oogee]

Well...

think about this, if you practice a method of carry for a few years and it beacomes an instinct why "overload" your head in time of crisis?

if you trained in CON-3 carry and i mean realy trained everything else seems plain wrong.

my mother for example carrys a PPK deckocked (chambered).


VETISHAMROO LENAFSHOTECHEM - be carefull

 

[Jedi_7.62]

NO!!! I carry a gun not an expensive hammer!

BE PREPARED!!!

 

[charleym3]

I used to carry a glock. If I had it in my pocket, I had an empty chamber. If it was in a holster, I had one in the pipe. Now I carry a revolver.

 

[Rogelio]

Israeli Technique is the greatest for everyday circumstances!

Hello:

I am kind of a new user here, and I am really gratefull that when I had doubts in my first posts, people who knew a lot were there to help me.

I have worked as a bodyguard for 10 years,I have taken a military course in Israeli Techniques "Superiority by rapid action" (SAR for its spanish initials), and I have found out that some of the information in this thread is not completely correct. As you people say, just my 02 cents worth

First off, when carrying the israeli way yo do not chamber with both hands, you just do it with your strong hand. How? You carry unholstered in your lower back, when pulling the gun out you catch the edge of your belt with the rear sights of your glock and then continue the downward movement till the gun is loaded. With practice this is the easiest carry method, and I can load a bullet and shoot faster than you can open your holster and pop me a round... (US says it is mandatory to use retention on holsters) .

Someone said that it would be hard to load a bullet while pushing away a loved one.....wrong again...just use your weak hand to grab your loved one by its pants (grab the part that is right in line with their spine), and at the same time pull down and to your back doing a circular movement. At the same time, cock the gun as described above.This WILL put your loved one behind you and leave you with a a condition 1 gun in just one movement.

No matter what method you choose to carry, just practice it! Practice makes perfect, and perfect stays alive!!

Rogelio

 

[BerettaNut92]

I bet Microbalrog does

 

[Island Beretta]

Guys,

I am a bit late to the party, hope you will let me in..

As Al Thompson said con-3 might be a carry over from the ole' days when we did not have firing pin blocks and intercept notch. I myself have taken out my Beretta (chambered) only to see the hammer half-cocked from the slide apparently riding up. I am safe (I think) because the hammer will be caught in the intercept notch plus the firing pin block. Nevertheless, even though I know this, it always makes me a bit uncomfortable as the prob. for an AD has increased. In fact I have always wondered if the original powerful Beretta mainspring could cause the hammer to hit the firing pin hard enough so as to break the firing pin block. I now carry a reduced power mainspring so not as concerned now.

The Israelis have mastered the art of con-3 carry and they can, in addition to the normal 2-hand rack, do one-handed racks, rack on the belt, rack on the hoster, rack on the boots, rack on the table etc. The CZ-100 is built with a racking bar on the top of the slide, and this was intended to make it more attractive to the Israelis and other Eastern countries.

Here in our island, a number of police fatalities have arisen because of failure to fire weapon when attacked. In most cases this seems to be due to a failure to release the safety on their C&L Browning HP in time. This is not surprising given the deterioation of complex motor skills in a stress situation. The police have been given training in con-3 carry with a slide rack and many report that this is faster for them. They reserve the option to choose whichever one they like. I am almost certain however that the average police in con-3 will be beaten by someone of comparable ability with a DA/DAO or SAS (Glock) pistol with a round chambered.

 

[Partisan Ranger]

One question - I've seen people refer to something called a 'slamfire,' which I understand to mean the round fires when you chamber it. Is that correct?

If so, shouldn't you only chamber a round outside pointed at the ground?

I can handle carrying a cocked and locked Glock (says Dr. Seuss ), but I wonder about that .40 round going off when I rack the gun in the morning.

 

[curt]

Good point PR. I too carry glocks but no matter what i'm chambering i'm always aware that there is potential for the round going off. broken firing pins or crap in the FP channel will do it.

 

[Henry Bowman]

PR - A Glock is never locked and, until the trigger is pulled, is only half cocked.