Rock45
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I have been shamed by the "little woman" more than once for this.
Anyone . . . During a Gun Oriented Movie?
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Capt Teach
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You people are sick! I can't believe you would do anything so unsafe. It boggles my mind.
I'll check back late for flames. I have to go buy a new tv.
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Why did I have to grab the Barret?
Capt Teach
I'll check back late for flames. I have to go buy a new tv.
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Why did I have to grab the Barret?
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spacemanspiff
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well see, i need an excuse to go buy a new tv and dvd with surround sound system, so dryfiring at the tv makes perfect sense!
yes, i do it at anyone on the tv screen, and i am PROUD to admit it! was doing that last night while watching T2 on the SciFi channel.
yes, i do it at anyone on the tv screen, and i am PROUD to admit it! was doing that last night while watching T2 on the SciFi channel.
twoblink
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Do we, or will we admit it? Those are two different questions..
brownie0486
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Maybe I should start 'popping" the folders simultaneously from left and right pockets at the tv.
I suppose I'd have to be watching the Alamo to do so and then I could "fantasize" about being old Jim Bowie himself when Santa Anna's men overrun us.
Course I don't have to worry about muzzle control and putting one through the walls over to the neighbors with knives, I'd only be concerned with stabbing the cat if one got away from me.
Brownie
I suppose I'd have to be watching the Alamo to do so and then I could "fantasize" about being old Jim Bowie himself when Santa Anna's men overrun us.
Course I don't have to worry about muzzle control and putting one through the walls over to the neighbors with knives, I'd only be concerned with stabbing the cat if one got away from me.
Brownie
Tamara
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Y'ever think about moving the TV instead? A safe backstop can easily be found or made.
Who cares if I zap some 18-year-old Toshiba? It'd be a good excuse to go get a better TV. I still take all precaustions, icluding an ammo container and verbalization; but my muzzle isn't covering anything I'm not willing to destroy. As far as neighbors go, I believe I've covered that above; there's probably not a straight line in the entire state of Massachussetts (except shooting out to sea) with a lower likelihood of striking another human being.
Let's see:
#1) He did not verify the gun was empty; on a revolver.
#2) He was "dry"firing with family members in front of the muzzle! Double
If you see any correlation between that and taking proper safety precautions, there's no point in continuing this discussion, as we are obviously not speaking the same language. Good day, sir.
Brian Williams
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I will admit I did some stupid things when I had my ND, but now when I Dryfire I take many more preprecautions, including the container, counting rounds, and verbalizations along with no one downrange.
Tamara
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Perfessr,
...and it takes a man to own up to it.
Good on ya.
...and it takes a man to own up to it.
Good on ya.
Sean Smith
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Dry-firing at the TV isn't a violation of the rules of gun safety as long as you can live with blowing it up.
Cosmoline
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I only do it with big revolvers that I can easily check to verify they're empty, and who's firing pins won't snap. I'd never do it with a semi. I am religious about checking to make sure it's empty, and even then I'd never do it with a semi or some firearm I couldn't check and re-check. With a big revolver you can see the rounds in there even without opening it.
bad_dad_brad
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What fun.
Just an observation - all the comments on the negatives of dry firing aside, I dry fire firearms that tolerate such, regularly to practice.
It is a great way to learn and then memory muscle your trigger finger. So if you mix a little fun with it by aiming and dry firing at the boogeyman on TV - what is the big deal?
I know I will catch h*ll for writing this, but it does not take a whole lot of rocket science to make sure a firearm is unloaded. I know we all have lapses of concentration, but don't we as well, when driving cars and trucks?
I suspect some of those toasted RCA's and Toshiba's TVs posted were killed under the influence.
Still, maybe an airsoft is the better way to go in this case. And you can plink at the cat as well.
Hmm, well, I am going to have to pick out a suitable movie to slip into my DVD, perhaps "Red Dawn" and dry fire away at them dang Commies!
Just an observation - all the comments on the negatives of dry firing aside, I dry fire firearms that tolerate such, regularly to practice.
It is a great way to learn and then memory muscle your trigger finger. So if you mix a little fun with it by aiming and dry firing at the boogeyman on TV - what is the big deal?
I know I will catch h*ll for writing this, but it does not take a whole lot of rocket science to make sure a firearm is unloaded. I know we all have lapses of concentration, but don't we as well, when driving cars and trucks?
I suspect some of those toasted RCA's and Toshiba's TVs posted were killed under the influence.
Still, maybe an airsoft is the better way to go in this case. And you can plink at the cat as well.
Hmm, well, I am going to have to pick out a suitable movie to slip into my DVD, perhaps "Red Dawn" and dry fire away at them dang Commies!
ShaiVong
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Perfessr:
Thats just priceless. I'm laughing on the outside, but crying on the inside.
Thats just priceless. I'm laughing on the outside, but crying on the inside.
Alan Smithiee
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uhm, my wife does.. (well, not with her actual guns..., she use's her hand and a modified weaver...)
IIRC didn't LE used to use a similar system for training? FATS or some such with movie screen?
I usually practice from low ready with my handguns or long guns. As long as you have a safe backstop and are willing to put a hole in the TV you aren't violating safety rules.
I normally use action movies or horror movies (movies=VHS/DVD). Actually about the only way I can stand the (most) horror movies.
Movies like the Ghost and the Darkness are good also. Specially if you try to place your shot in specific area of target and not just center of mass.
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I also use dryfire with room/house cleaning. Figure it is a GOOD idea, because how are you going to remember safe lines of fire if you don't practice them??
Plus I figure I am getting better training for what I need for home defense practicing in my own home than I would at a fun house.
Cirillo and the other guys on the fugitive stakeout squad supposedly put serious time into planning where they would set up and lines of fire. And they never shot an innocent.
I usually practice from low ready with my handguns or long guns. As long as you have a safe backstop and are willing to put a hole in the TV you aren't violating safety rules.
I normally use action movies or horror movies (movies=VHS/DVD). Actually about the only way I can stand the (most) horror movies.
Movies like the Ghost and the Darkness are good also. Specially if you try to place your shot in specific area of target and not just center of mass.
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I also use dryfire with room/house cleaning. Figure it is a GOOD idea, because how are you going to remember safe lines of fire if you don't practice them??
Plus I figure I am getting better training for what I need for home defense practicing in my own home than I would at a fun house.
Cirillo and the other guys on the fugitive stakeout squad supposedly put serious time into planning where they would set up and lines of fire. And they never shot an innocent.
Bigjake
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Heck Yeah!
thats why the invented snap caps! the beretta for lethal weapon, the model 94 for rio bravo, and my vaqueros for helpin john wayne out in the shootist
thats why the invented snap caps! the beretta for lethal weapon, the model 94 for rio bravo, and my vaqueros for helpin john wayne out in the shootist
Zeke Menuar
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I've been known to drag out the '58 Remington cap n' ball revolver during horse operas (no dry firing though).
ZM
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Jeff Cooper advocates dry-firing at the zeroes and O's in commericals.
If one follows all appropriate safety precautions, a television set(or "televisor" as Jeff likes to call it, and if you think about it he's right) is a perfectly acceptable dry-fire target. The electron gun and assorted items inside will generally stop most any handgun bullet, and sight-acquire-fire on a pop-up target, such as the aforementioned O's, is good practice.
Of course there's no excuse for an ND, but dry-firing at a "televisor" is NOT a violation of Rule Two.
If one follows all appropriate safety precautions, a television set(or "televisor" as Jeff likes to call it, and if you think about it he's right) is a perfectly acceptable dry-fire target. The electron gun and assorted items inside will generally stop most any handgun bullet, and sight-acquire-fire on a pop-up target, such as the aforementioned O's, is good practice.
Of course there's no excuse for an ND, but dry-firing at a "televisor" is NOT a violation of Rule Two.
Mannlicher
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Good Grief, brad, Of course not!!!
................now monster movies are another subject.
................now monster movies are another subject.
Ledbetter
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I'll take one (or more) out to look at, especially if I'm watching with another gun-type.
I don't dry fire when I am liable to be distracted. That's just me, though.
I don't dry fire when I am liable to be distracted. That's just me, though.
brownie0486
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I just hope none of you are letting the kids see you take aim at the tv.
If you do put one into the tv, is it enough of a backstop? Perhaps, perhaps not, but it is clear that tv's are not generally known to be good bullet catchers or I think more clubs would use them. They may generally stop most rounds, but thats a far cry from all, and Murphy gets to laugh again.
Never mind the potential for riccochets. These things [ tv's ] are not bullet sponges ya know?
Would any of you shoot a metal plate at 8 feet and not worry about riccochets?
Moving the tv to dry fire? My wide screen isn't on rollers. I originally set it up to watch the thing, not shoot at it.
Brownie
If you do put one into the tv, is it enough of a backstop? Perhaps, perhaps not, but it is clear that tv's are not generally known to be good bullet catchers or I think more clubs would use them. They may generally stop most rounds, but thats a far cry from all, and Murphy gets to laugh again.
Never mind the potential for riccochets. These things [ tv's ] are not bullet sponges ya know?
Would any of you shoot a metal plate at 8 feet and not worry about riccochets?
Moving the tv to dry fire? My wide screen isn't on rollers. I originally set it up to watch the thing, not shoot at it.
Brownie
Bigjake
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then i pry shouldn't mention i dry fire at the cat as well.....
Well currently when using my TV for dryfire parctice, my primary backstop is the concrete wall behind the TV. The secondary backstop is the berm outside the wall (the wall on that side of the house is bermed).
Personally I think shooting bad guys in a video is better than anything short of force on force. You get to condition yourself to challege a person carrying a weapon. And you only shoot (dryfire) at them if they don't drop the weapon
As to shooting steel at 8 feet, if you use lead bullets it is not a great idea without body armour. But they make bullets for that type of use, similar to breaching rounds, that are compressed "dust".
You can also use plastic bullets (Speer's training cartridges) or airsoft or paintball. They may bounce but as long as you use eye protection it doesn't matter.
BTW I know people that play with real explosives (breaching charges) and fun houses (live fire). Some of them complain about headaches after a day of things going BOOM and the fumes the explosives give off. To me that is dangerous. Dryfiring with a safebackstop is much safer IMHO.
Personally I think shooting bad guys in a video is better than anything short of force on force. You get to condition yourself to challege a person carrying a weapon. And you only shoot (dryfire) at them if they don't drop the weapon
As to shooting steel at 8 feet, if you use lead bullets it is not a great idea without body armour. But they make bullets for that type of use, similar to breaching rounds, that are compressed "dust".
You can also use plastic bullets (Speer's training cartridges) or airsoft or paintball. They may bounce but as long as you use eye protection it doesn't matter.
BTW I know people that play with real explosives (breaching charges) and fun houses (live fire). Some of them complain about headaches after a day of things going BOOM and the fumes the explosives give off. To me that is dangerous. Dryfiring with a safebackstop is much safer IMHO.
lycanthrope
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As Glamdring had sort of mentioned, I use the sintered copper rounds that are like compressed "dust". I shoot steel poppers at 10 feet without fear so TV richochets never enter my mind. Wicked rounds for self defense. My .45 shoots 155 gr hollopoints at 1100 fps.
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Mannlicher
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Some of the folks here are WAY to PC. It's almost like listening to a group of parrots, spouting the latest buzz words learned from (mostly mediocre) gunzine writers. Lets see: No dry fire, over penetration, won't use cop killer bullets, Cocked & Locked ain't safe, gee, it gets just plain silly here sometimes.
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