I ride dirt bike and was wondering how anyone else conceals on motorcycles or dirt bikes. I bought a nylon retention holster for it but it isn't the most concealable or comfortable holster. My normal Carry holster is a Leather non retention. just wondering what other people use so maybe i could get some ideas
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fanny pack/holster
I would think that one of the available fanny pack/ holster combos would do the trick.
Also, just a few days ago, someone posted a link to a mountain climbing holster/pack that would work as well.
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I would think that one of the available fanny pack/ holster combos would do the trick.
Also, just a few days ago, someone posted a link to a mountain climbing holster/pack that would work as well.
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Welcome to THR.
If you do a search on "motorcycle carry", there will be several threads on this subject that may well cover your inquiry.
If you do a search on "motorcycle carry", there will be several threads on this subject that may well cover your inquiry.
1911HeadBanger
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Motorcyle Carry
Warm weather - Blackhawk Fanny Pack. Cool weather shoulder holster or IWB under a jacket. I have a hard leather bag mounted behind my windshield, between the handlebars, and sometimes a Colt ofc's ACP rides there on longer rides. If it's cool enough to wear my leather jacket, I carry in a inner pocket occassionally. Be safe!
Warm weather - Blackhawk Fanny Pack. Cool weather shoulder holster or IWB under a jacket. I have a hard leather bag mounted behind my windshield, between the handlebars, and sometimes a Colt ofc's ACP rides there on longer rides. If it's cool enough to wear my leather jacket, I carry in a inner pocket occassionally. Be safe!
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In Ohio we must open carry then get it back concealed when off the bike.
Jim March
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I have pondered this much. And crashed a few times too. It's been about 17 years since I've owned a car for daily transportation. Current ride is a '97 Buell S3.
When you eat it, the gun is going to be pressed into you if luck not be with you. It's up to you to decide ahead of time what part of you the gun will be pressed into. Secondary considerations are "will the gun be OK?" and "will I be able to get to the gun with my off-hand post crash if my strong arm has unexpected new joints in it that ain't supposed to be there and are bleeding?".
"Smartcarry" is dumb in this application if you're a male. 'Nuff said.
Standard shoulder carry is a problem as you are very likely to go down on one side or the other. That's why a lot of bikers break collarbones...which is annoying but tends to heal OK. So if the gun is alongside your ribs, big problem, worse if it gets sandwiched between bicep and ribs. Even if the bicep doesn't break (which would be very bad, possibly damaging the big artery inside the arm) the bicep bone will lever the gun deep into the ribs, possibly enough to puncture a lung.
Worst of all would be small of back on top of the spine. That would be insane. Don't even think about it.
Ankle carry would get too dirty, otherwise not too bad.
Having excluded a lot, let's talk positives.
Fanny pack or belt pack carry at the front but to one side of the belt buckle (either side, your choice) is good SO LONG as you're sure the gun can't "flip upwards" and be pressed into your gut above the belt and to one side. The latter would be bad, as it would press into kidneys or liver or both, organs that have little "give". Or spleen, same deal.
As long as the gun stays at or below the beltline, it would be pressed into the pelvis which can take a HELL of a beating or upper thighbone, also tough as nails. Also, in my experience your body in a crash will tend to fold forward and around the belt buckle area, so this is a part of the body very unlikely to take a major hit. Not impossible of course.
(Story time: got run off the road once on an urban street by some dimwit cellphone yakker, went flying straight at a stop sign pole at around 25mph. Managed to twist my upper body/arms away from the pole in mid-flight but hit the pole smack on the middle of my thighbone. Didn't break it. Pain was *bad* but I managed to pick the bike up, drive away and even limp onstage to give a speech on voting machines...but afterwards just could NOT make the 2 hour drive home. Somebody local put me up in their guest bed and I could barely walk the next morning. Managed the drive home that evening though. I still can't believe my thighbone held but it sure did. No medical attention needed
. When I say thighbones are tough, I ain't kiddin' around.)
Where possible, fanny packs with their own strap should be anchored to the belt to avoid having them flip or slip up over your guts. I remain convinced that the pelvis/thighbone can take much more impact than your guts can.
The "safepacker" is a definate possibility:
http://thewilderness.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/2/products_id/18
Depending on type it may "flop up" to cover your gut or even lower rib if it's for a big enough gun. Major problem. For biker use you'd need a leg tie-down via paracord or an extra strap. Still shouldn't look TOO "ubertactical". Best I think would be towards the front of your body, to one side or the other of your zipper. Tied down this should hit your pelvis or upper thighbone before hitting your testicles...push in on it and make sure!!! Due to the "folding effect" the damage to the gun/holster should be least in this area, which means you'll still be armed post-crash as long as at least one arm still works. This can be important if the impact was deliberate on some cager's part...it does happen. Side-of-hip carry will offer less protection for the gun and no ambidextrous access post-crash.
Finally, there's IWB just behind the hip. This can work well so long as it's not too far back over the kidney. If you're not sure where that is, go find out. As long as you get that part right, as discussed the pelvis isn't a weak point in our design. Main drawback is limited or no off-hand access if your strong side arm is damaged.
When you eat it, the gun is going to be pressed into you if luck not be with you. It's up to you to decide ahead of time what part of you the gun will be pressed into. Secondary considerations are "will the gun be OK?" and "will I be able to get to the gun with my off-hand post crash if my strong arm has unexpected new joints in it that ain't supposed to be there and are bleeding?".
"Smartcarry" is dumb in this application if you're a male. 'Nuff said.
Standard shoulder carry is a problem as you are very likely to go down on one side or the other. That's why a lot of bikers break collarbones...which is annoying but tends to heal OK. So if the gun is alongside your ribs, big problem, worse if it gets sandwiched between bicep and ribs. Even if the bicep doesn't break (which would be very bad, possibly damaging the big artery inside the arm) the bicep bone will lever the gun deep into the ribs, possibly enough to puncture a lung.
Worst of all would be small of back on top of the spine. That would be insane. Don't even think about it.
Ankle carry would get too dirty, otherwise not too bad.
Having excluded a lot, let's talk positives.
Fanny pack or belt pack carry at the front but to one side of the belt buckle (either side, your choice) is good SO LONG as you're sure the gun can't "flip upwards" and be pressed into your gut above the belt and to one side. The latter would be bad, as it would press into kidneys or liver or both, organs that have little "give". Or spleen, same deal.
As long as the gun stays at or below the beltline, it would be pressed into the pelvis which can take a HELL of a beating or upper thighbone, also tough as nails. Also, in my experience your body in a crash will tend to fold forward and around the belt buckle area, so this is a part of the body very unlikely to take a major hit. Not impossible of course.
(Story time: got run off the road once on an urban street by some dimwit cellphone yakker, went flying straight at a stop sign pole at around 25mph. Managed to twist my upper body/arms away from the pole in mid-flight but hit the pole smack on the middle of my thighbone. Didn't break it. Pain was *bad* but I managed to pick the bike up, drive away and even limp onstage to give a speech on voting machines...but afterwards just could NOT make the 2 hour drive home. Somebody local put me up in their guest bed and I could barely walk the next morning. Managed the drive home that evening though. I still can't believe my thighbone held but it sure did. No medical attention needed
. When I say thighbones are tough, I ain't kiddin' around.)Where possible, fanny packs with their own strap should be anchored to the belt to avoid having them flip or slip up over your guts. I remain convinced that the pelvis/thighbone can take much more impact than your guts can.
The "safepacker" is a definate possibility:
http://thewilderness.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/2/products_id/18
Depending on type it may "flop up" to cover your gut or even lower rib if it's for a big enough gun. Major problem. For biker use you'd need a leg tie-down via paracord or an extra strap. Still shouldn't look TOO "ubertactical". Best I think would be towards the front of your body, to one side or the other of your zipper. Tied down this should hit your pelvis or upper thighbone before hitting your testicles...push in on it and make sure!!! Due to the "folding effect" the damage to the gun/holster should be least in this area, which means you'll still be armed post-crash as long as at least one arm still works. This can be important if the impact was deliberate on some cager's part...it does happen. Side-of-hip carry will offer less protection for the gun and no ambidextrous access post-crash.
Finally, there's IWB just behind the hip. This can work well so long as it's not too far back over the kidney. If you're not sure where that is, go find out. As long as you get that part right, as discussed the pelvis isn't a weak point in our design. Main drawback is limited or no off-hand access if your strong side arm is damaged.
The answer for me is obvious. The handgun goes in my tank bag, and I don't ride without it. The problem of course, is the transfer from the tank bag to a carry holster, when dismounting. This can be accomplished several ways, and if you use a bit of imagination, it is pretty easy.
MLB
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I use a tuckable IWB at about 4 o'clock and my wife riding behind me is even better than a cover garment.
gunsmith
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I 2nd the tank bag
I carried daily in CA sans permit both crashing and going well over the speed limit getting stopped and searched and ticketed....alll goood!
saddle and tank bags...goooooooooddd
I carried daily in CA sans permit both crashing and going well over the speed limit getting stopped and searched and ticketed....alll goood!
saddle and tank bags...goooooooooddd
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