leadcounsel
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I saw this on Lock and Load recently. This thing looks awesome. I want one, even if it's only a semi-automatic. Wow it's cool.
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Anyone seen the AA 12 shotgun 12 guage?
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Avtomat Kalashnikova
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get a saiga 12, it cycles faster 
Grunt
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I am trying to get extended mags for my AA12 in Call of Duty 2 right now. Does that count?
jmortimer
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Just watched it on L-N-Load. Comparing a crude Saiga to a state of the art AA12 is a joke.
You're right, it is a joke. To the AA12. The AA-12 is an example of an open-bolt weapon, which is how it dampens recoil along with a floating bolt. It doesn't even lock up prior to firing, it's a completely open bolt.
EDIT: Forgot to mention! The AA12 magazines need to be slid up a guide rail and then locked in. Complex and time consuming. S12 mags just lock in like an AK.
RedLion
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Idk, I think both would be pretty bad on the receiving end, but one might look a little cooler than the other.....
rcmodel
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The joke is, you can really buy a Saiga.
You can't buy the vapor-ware AA12, and never will be able too.
BTW: One of the links in the OP launched an attack on my computer.
It started opening multiple copies of IE faster then I could close them.
Finally had to unhook the cable modem to stop it!!
rc
You can't buy the vapor-ware AA12, and never will be able too.
BTW: One of the links in the OP launched an attack on my computer.
It started opening multiple copies of IE faster then I could close them.
Finally had to unhook the cable modem to stop it!!
rc
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jmortimer
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Will alert the Marines that they are making a big mistake getting the AA12 as opposed to the Saiga. Our poor military - can't they just get cutting edge weapons like the Saiga. Yes I doubt a fully auto AA12 will be made available to the public but it would be nice to have a civilian version.
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rcmodel
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Please post a reliable reference to the Army buying any of them for anything?
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jmortimer
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They are being tested by the Marines. Good question. It does look ugly and bulky. It may feel real good. Those AP rounds are so cool with the fins that deploy in flight and stablize. Punch through 2" of steel and mini-grenades as well. I would think the answer would be yes for smooth bores as I believe the AA12 is a smooth bore.They are being tested right now as we speak in Iraq and Afghanistan I believe - Need to check on barrel and current usage.
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Shpadoinkel
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What do you mean, "even if it's only semi-auto"?
The first 'A' in AA-12 stands for "Auto".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnrizaO-X00
The MD 20 is being tested by the military, reportedly because the AA-12 was not up to the task. http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?showtopic=44278 Post 28 specifically
Source?
The saiga is lighter, cycles faster, oh and the really important part is that it is not vaporware, you can actually buy one.
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The saiga is lighter, cycles faster, oh and the really important part is that it is not vaporware, you can actually buy one.
Fred Fuller
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I've seen and handled examples of the Daewoo USAS-12. They were interesting looking but I couldn't see much practical use for one.
See http://world.guns.ru/shotgun/sh16-e.htm for more information, or http://v2.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=156770585 for an available specimen for anyone who might want to put money into one (where NFA items are legal).
lpl
See http://world.guns.ru/shotgun/sh16-e.htm for more information, or http://v2.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=156770585 for an available specimen for anyone who might want to put money into one (where NFA items are legal).
lpl
I think the AA-12 is btter-looking than the USAS-12. I realy don't think that the AA-12 wil ever be adopted. Full-auto shotguns are best left to the movies, they eat ammunition very fact and the magazines are huge for their capacity. Still, it's very cool.
4thPointOfContact
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Still my favorite USAS-12 video, even though the third guy gets thrown a bit off-balance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wo1dTSXXCxY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wo1dTSXXCxY
Gunnerpalace
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The Marines are testing them (eg they got 5 just to horse around with)
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