anyone shot a Magnum 500?
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rkh
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You bet wrong.
Begone, troll.
Begone, troll.
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I'll play. I don't see that as a viable combat weapon for a number of reasons.
1. A rifle or carbine has numerous advantages. Accuracy at longer ranges and magazine capacity come readily to mind.
2. What real power does .500 S&W Magnum have? It is obviously more powerful than 9mm and would probably defeat soft body armor. But the SAPI plates in my IBA are rated to stop armor piercing 7.62 rounds. I'm sure it could shrug off .500 S&W easily.
3. The round is not anywhere near standard. 5.56 and 9mm (and 7.62, for that matter) are standard cartridges. They are all widely used, readily available, and cheap. .500 S&W Magnum is none of those.
I'm not sure how the round compares to 5.56 or 7.62 when hitting soft targets (anyone? I really don't know...) but I'm certain it's not enough of a magnum death ray buttstomper to overcome it's shortcomings as a combat round.
1. A rifle or carbine has numerous advantages. Accuracy at longer ranges and magazine capacity come readily to mind.
2. What real power does .500 S&W Magnum have? It is obviously more powerful than 9mm and would probably defeat soft body armor. But the SAPI plates in my IBA are rated to stop armor piercing 7.62 rounds. I'm sure it could shrug off .500 S&W easily.
3. The round is not anywhere near standard. 5.56 and 9mm (and 7.62, for that matter) are standard cartridges. They are all widely used, readily available, and cheap. .500 S&W Magnum is none of those.
I'm not sure how the round compares to 5.56 or 7.62 when hitting soft targets (anyone? I really don't know...) but I'm certain it's not enough of a magnum death ray buttstomper to overcome it's shortcomings as a combat round.
It only takes one round from a .500 to ......
Start a forest fire !!!
Light all the candles on your birthday cake (up to 50 or so).
Set off all car alarms with-in 2 city blocks.
Make your biggest beer drinkin buddy go "WHOLLY CRAP"
All this, but I'm not quite sure about the whole combat thing
Jeff (GUNKWAZY)
Start a forest fire !!!
Light all the candles on your birthday cake (up to 50 or so).
Set off all car alarms with-in 2 city blocks.
Make your biggest beer drinkin buddy go "WHOLLY CRAP"
All this, but I'm not quite sure about the whole combat thing
Jeff (GUNKWAZY)
General Geoff
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Wow.. that's some beautiful engraving.
SnWnMe
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Body armor will stop it, but the impact will probably shatter your chest and kill you just as good. I once shot a bulletproof vest with a 250 gr 454 @ 1800 fps. The vest held but the energy transfer destroyed the target stand.
RNB65
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Would you really want to go into combat with a 5-shot revolver that weighs 5lbs and can't even penetrate a standard run-of-the-mill kevlar vest?
Beagle-zebub
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It can't penetrate a vest because it is too blunt, too slow, and too soft.
Pax Jordana
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I have a buddy who always jokes about packing a 454 snub... In reality, he's "settling" for a 38 or 357 J-frame.
If you can shoot a .500 one handed, under stress, and HIT something with it, then it's just as viable as anything else 38 cal or larger... If you can hide one on your person, comfortably and in a way that it won't be a dead giveaway you're packing a hogleg, it's viable as a CCW.
And if you can hit somebody with it in a real SD type situation without giving yourself grievous powder burns (note Kwazy's porting on the front of his!) that's just extra credit
Let's not even talk about your standing in a court case. Isn't the 500 supposed to be for SD against bears and such?
If you can shoot a .500 one handed, under stress, and HIT something with it, then it's just as viable as anything else 38 cal or larger... If you can hide one on your person, comfortably and in a way that it won't be a dead giveaway you're packing a hogleg, it's viable as a CCW.
And if you can hit somebody with it in a real SD type situation without giving yourself grievous powder burns (note Kwazy's porting on the front of his!) that's just extra credit
Let's not even talk about your standing in a court case. Isn't the 500 supposed to be for SD against bears and such?
rkh
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If it doesn't shatter your hand when you pull the trigger, it won't shatter the chest of the armored target.
Conservation of energy.
Throw the 500 to the perp, and when he shoots at you go matrix on the bullet as the gun hits the perp on the forehead and knocks him out cold. Then take the gun from him and pistol whip him with it. 
Seriously if you want a revolver for the situation you describe I'd go 357 of your choice and Buffalo Bore. When in Rome do what the Romans do. When in combat do what the combatants do.
But I do want what GUNKWAZY has.
Seriously if you want a revolver for the situation you describe I'd go 357 of your choice and Buffalo Bore. When in Rome do what the Romans do. When in combat do what the combatants do.But I do want what GUNKWAZY has.
benelli12
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It probably wont pierce body armor. But getting hit with the 500 with a 400+ grain bullet going around 1800 fps WILL knock you down. It would be pretty much like getting hit with a 12 gauge slug, and that would be a nightmare. If it hits you in the center of mass it could incapacitate you from the sheer energy of the hit. If you hit a limb, and you are using HPs then it will probably take an arm off, if it hits bone, or almost take off a leg, if it hits bone.
But for combat? No, but a .500 magnum in a Semi-auto Carbine would probably work better.
But for combat? No, but a .500 magnum in a Semi-auto Carbine would probably work better.
koja48
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Don't know, but if it didn't, you could always run over the combatant with the wheels, 'cuz those things are heavy enough to warrant a carriage . . .
Magnum 500 can take out a car engine too. .50 cal sniper rifles like the M82A1 Barrett can do it, .50 cal revolver too.
And even if .50 cal can't penetrate the body armor, the shock of the impact will still kill you, penetrating armor or not.
And that is IF it can't penetrate armor. Which I think it would.
And even if .50 cal can't penetrate the body armor, the shock of the impact will still kill you, penetrating armor or not.
And that is IF it can't penetrate armor. Which I think it would.
doc2rn
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I shot my buds at $4/ shell, got it in the 10 ring. Fired 2 rounds and walked away. Wrist still hurts
klover
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Just get an AK pistol with an 80 round drum
it will only weigh a little more. Then saw off everything the armor vest doesn't cover.
it will only weigh a little more. Then saw off everything the armor vest doesn't cover.
Geronimo45
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"Magnum 500 can take out a car engine too. .50 cal sniper rifles like the M82A1 Barrett can do it, .50 cal revolver too."
Don't confuse .50 BMG with .500 Magnum. Major difference between the round used in anti-material, anti-aircraft machine guns and a Magnum handgun cartridge.
Shouldn't have too much trouble with II, maybe even IIIA armor.
Now, as far as I know, the body armor doesn't exist that can stop a .50 BMG AP round.
Don't confuse .50 BMG with .500 Magnum. Major difference between the round used in anti-material, anti-aircraft machine guns and a Magnum handgun cartridge.
Shouldn't have too much trouble with II, maybe even IIIA armor.
Now, as far as I know, the body armor doesn't exist that can stop a .50 BMG AP round.
AnthonyRSS
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Or no.... Are you okay?
Anthony
MikePGS
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I could've sworn that i saw a gun magazine today that said something about S and W offering a .500 mag and a .460 (not sure if thats a mag) snubnose. Just why?
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