Apartment office with no gun sign

[armoredman]

I appreciate your very kind words, Frank, thank you, BTW, are you licensed to practice law in Arizona? Just curious. I've stated I am not a lawyer, nor admitted to the bar anywhere in the world. All I do is read through the laws as I find them - we pulled our law libraries when we won that law suit so I don't have a place to go poking through the 100 tons of law books of deliberately confusing legal work.
I will be on the horn to my elected officials and through the various effective grass roots firearms outfits here to see if we can't change that law to prohibit residential landlords from taking that step. Perhaps that is an idea you can agree with, since you ignored it when I said it last post? We have a habit of changing firearms related law in this state when it chafes too much. That's how Arizona went from no CCW/open carry for 83 years to Constitutional Carry and the second state to adopt a state gun by our 100 birthday.

 

[stonecutter2]

Apartments just gave us a 30-day notice of new policy adoption. We are no longer allowed to carry a firearm on the property. We have to have a locked case to transport are firearms from my apartment to an off premises location. I have only a locking safe, no locking transport cases as I have always used my manufactures case to move my firearm from one place to another under my own supervision. From what I understand in the new rules being put in place on September 27th, I have to remove my firearms from the premises. Anyone with advice on this would be greatly appreciated.

I'm confused. Can you not CARRY firearms on the property, or possess firearms?

You mention a requirement that they have to be transported in a locked case. If possession were prohibited, why the stipulation of transporting in a locked case?

So...

Is your apartment banning firearms, or stipulating that you cannot carry one on the property, unless it's in a locked case?

 

[george burns]

Any private property or private establishment where the owner or any other person having lawful control over the property has given reasonable notice forbidding the carrying of deadly weapons or firearms. However, this does not apply to:
Officers of the law who are legally executing official duties
Lawfully possessed firearms that are in a locked and privately owned vehicle or in a locked compartment on a privately owned motorcycle and that are not visible from outside the vehicle or motorcycle.
The above is taken from the AZ Gun Law website:

 

[armoredman]

From his last post, emphasis added,

From what I understand in the new rules being put in place on September 27th, I have to remove my firearms from the premises. Anyone with advice on this would be greatly appreciated.

This will be a court test of who's private property rights trump who's, the landlord or the renter. Contact Arizona Citizens Defense League, http://azcdl.org/ for some Arizona lawyers wh might be able to help, instead of asking us internet idiots. Then please let us know how that works out. Good luck!

 

[TimeIsRunninOut]

We are no longer to carry a firearm or any other device that might be considered harmful to others. All firearms are to be transported in a locked case unloaded, ammunition, targets, archery equipment are also to be transported in a locked case.

I am unsure how I am going to go about purchasing ammo and bring it home/have it shipped home. I really don't real like the idea of getting a case just to buy or have ammo shipped to me.

 

[armoredman]

I'd love to see how they enforce THAT! Dang near every item known to man has been used in murders, including good old hands and feet. Are they going to require residents to dress in foot thick Nerf suits? That steps over into pure fantasy land - where will you park your murder machines, AKA cars? No pocket knives or tools, not even a Leatherman? I print out targets on my computer - does that make my computer "harmful" to others because it makes things that have to be locked up while outside the home? That's BEYOND nuts - get with GOA, SAF and the NRA - they will eat these people alive in court, and Frank, maybe YOU can show them some places they could start on such a ridiculous claim. If my landlord told me I couldn't carry a common tool that's been in common use for a few THOUSAND years, I think I'd tell him to shove it.

 

[Frank Ettin]

....they will eat these people alive in court, and Frank, maybe YOU can show them some places they could start on such a ridiculous claim....

Well, as described by the OP the rule appears preposterous.

Not we nor the OP will get anywhere just thrashing around here. The OP has some decisions to make.

1. He can write the letter asserting that the new rule is a material change to the terms of his rental and may not be applied to him until his lease renews and is modified, and then see what kind of response he gets.
   
   
2. He can hire a lawyer.
   
   
3. He can start looking for another place to live. That might not be a bad idea in any case.
   
   
4. As armoredman suggested he could contact Arizona Citizens Defense League or some other RKBA advocacy group for assistance and support in pursuing a litigation solution.
   
   
5. Or he can give up and try to comply as best as he can.

But it looks like his problem is not going to just go away, and we're not going to be able to fix it for him here.

 

[TimeIsRunninOut]

We already planned on moving out months ago. I just didn't see the point in paying the lease break fees back then. What I am doing now is gathering information to make sure I can present my side and fight them as it is a breach of my contract to live here. I asked before I moved in if they had any issues with me owning/carrying firearms, they replied that it was not an issue they asked that I simply don't bring one into the office. I had no issue with that since it is easier to contact them on the phone or just use the night drop to pay rent. So now my next move will be to reach out to the NRA, the ACDL, and a lawyer.