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So.. the wife and I are going out to dinner and we stop into Applebees in San Antonio.

As I walk in through the first door there I notice a sign at knee level:

NO WEAPONS OF ANY KIND ARE ALLOWED ON OUR PREMISIS
NOT EVEN WITH A PERMIT.

My wife immediately asks, Do you want to eat somewhere else?

I told her that I could legally walk in there armed but didn't want to be a patron of that kind of establishment.

We ate at Lubys instead.

Has anyone seen this sign at any other Applebees location?

I'm getting ready to fire off some letters and I'm wondering if it is corporate policy or franchisee.
 
I'd write that letter.

Even if Applebee's is anti, sinage not approved by corporate H.Q. is often a no-no, and you can often get the sign to go away just from that standpoint alone. :D
 
Never seen that hereabouts, but I don't generally frequent Applebees either.
 
Send that letter and then let us know how they respond. IIRC, these are not franchises so it is either corporate policy (in which case they can kiss any of my future business goodbye) or the manager is going this one on his own.
 
Always liked Luby's better anyway. Thanks for the heads up. Driving out to Az, we always stop in Amarillo and eat at Luby's. It is kind of, "Well, now we are getting close". Quantrill
 
Sometimes signs that do not comply with PC30.06 are posted to placate the sheeple, since CHL holders know that non-compliant signs are meaningless.

Or the manger could just be a clueless hoplophobe. (A redundancy, to be sure.)

I haven't seen that particular sign when I've walked past the local Applebees in Austin. (Didn't eat there - too crowded - but I'll look again next time I'm near it.)
 
I gave their site the once over for the heck of it, but didn't see anything related to weapons. If they sell beer they wouldn't need a No Guns sign in Virginia anyway. JT

"The Applebee’s system is approximately 76% franchised and 24% company-owned. There are 51 domestic Applebee’s franchisees."
 
I fired off an Email to the CEO and to the investor relations
and will follow up with hardcopy if I don't a response right away.

BTW applebees group is in Overland Park Kansas (liberal anti-gun capitol of the midwest)

Here goes:

I noticed this sign as I walked into Applebees on the corner of Jones Maltsberger and 410 in San Antonio:

"NO WEAPONS OF ANY KIND ARE ALLOWED ON OUR PREMISES
NOT EVEN WITH A PERMIT."

I am a licensed handgun carrier and so are 260,000 law abiding Texans like myself.

Nationally there are millions of concealed handgun license holders.

We have undergone state and federal background checks, have no felonies ever,
owe no back taxes, have not defaulted on state loans, and are generally of an upper income group.

It seems Applebees would want people like us in their restaurants.

I'm hoping this one location just made a bad judgment call.

Please respond or forward this to the appropriate officer in your company.

I am concerned about your corporate policy and so are thousands of others like me.

Sincerely:

Jesse Salcedo

[email protected]
 
jsalcedo

Is that the one on Fredricksburg Rd.? I only ate there once, a long time ago, and I never noticed.

I WOULD send the letter, whether or not I entered (and you could, of course, enter legally while packing), and I'd be sure in that case to inform the corporate management that I DIDN'T eat there because of the sign and WON'T if it isn't taken down.
 
Is it against the current carry law to have a firearm in a place with a liquor license?

The Applebee's around here all serve hard liquor, and if the CCW law that is on the table passes here, I couldn't carry there either.

Is this a situation that falls into that category?
 
Where I'm at, an establishment has to derive 51% of its income in alcohol before it is off limits to CCW.

If an esablishment does indeed get 51% they have to post 2 signs at the entrance stating in big red letters that they do.

Applebees did not have the 51% sign or the 30.06 sign saying they disallow guns under the tresspass staute.
 
question,,,

is 260,000 a typo? i thought texas was carry capitol of the us and i know there are about 400,000 licensed carriers in puny little connecticut,

am i to believe we outnumber big ol' texas???

:confused:

i hope we don't have to come down there and kick the mexicans out of the alamo again...

:neener:
 
NO WEAPONS OF ANY KIND ARE ALLOWED ON OUR PREMISIS. NOT EVEN WITH A PERMIT.
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There are plenty of weapons there already.

Steak knives.

Forks.

Chairs.

Plates, saucers, water glasses can all be broken over someone's head and/or used as a slashing weapon.

The most dangerous weapon is a twisty human mind, and there's no way to keep that out.

pax

Why don't they just put up a sign that says, "No robberies allowed"? -- Don Stahlnecker
 
Yea like he said...everyone knows Stone Cold is from Austin and he swings a mighty mean chair. Probaly as dangerous or more than you sitting in there with your CCW on you.

I used to frequent Applebee's when the local one was alot nicer of a place. Management went way down hill tho. I havent been in but one or two in a few years. But a letter to corporate will put it to rest. As with any other franchise if its not approved it is likely not allowed
 
I have been to several Applebee's in northern and central Virginia and in a few in both North and South Carolina. Never saw a sign like that in any of them. That has got to be a local management issue not an Applebee's directive.
 
After reading this post, I stopped at the local Applebees and looked for a sign. Checked inside and out of the entrance doors, no signs,,,,,,,,,yet.
 
One of the nice things about having a CCW in California, is that since they’re so rare (especially in the San Francisco Bay Area) that it would never occur to a merchant or business owner that one of their customers might be lawfully carrying a firearm, therefore they would never post a sign at the entrance prohibiting such carry.

When ever I’m in Texas or Oklahoma on business, it always amuses me to see the signs forbidding firearms in the airport… I used to think ‘well duh…of course no firearms in the airport, why do they even feel the need to post a sign? Oh yeah, right, people can carry here…I forgot.’
 
In Georgia, we can not CCW in a restaurant that sells alcohol,so here it is a given..I would like to see that change, I can understand a bar (guns and alcohol do not mix) but not a eating establishment....
 
In Cali, the Dept o' Justice specifies that you cannot carry in an establishment whose primary business is the sale of on-premise consumption alcohol (bars). Restaurants that serve liquor are ok, as are nightclubs that have dancing or bands.
 
I am from the Dallas area. I was visiting relatives in San Antonio and must have visited the same Appleby's because I saw the same sign. I abided by their wishes and took my business (money) elsewhere. I have never visited another Appleby's since that day 7 yrs. ago. I never will. Appleby's has lost my business FOREVER!
I understand the food isn't that good anyway.

Jim Hall
 
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