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jsal, is that the Applebee's on the northside by the airport in down the road from the PT's? That's where I stay in Saint Tony's, in the Drury Inn or the Hampton Inn.

I know exactly what sign it is then. Brown with white lettering? Don't think it meets the .30-'06 posting requirement that y'all have down there. Thought it was for out-of-town mommies.

No signs in Applebees here, but then no signs around these parts (one westside strip bar in Indy has one--"No Motorcycle Colors, No Weapons").
 
Yep Tejon thats the one. I'm beginning to think it is just that location. I'll wait to hear what corporate says.
 
jsal, when I first started going to Saint Tony's shortly after your carry reform, I noticed oodles of strange "no guns" signs. That one at the Applebees on 410 was one of the first.

Not long ago I asked the goateed bartender about it (El Tejon never shuts up--yack, yack, yack). He shrugged and got a manager. I asked the manager about it. He shrugged and said it was up there when he came to the store years ago.

If people don't want to change, they claim it is impossible or "policy." "I don't want to get off my bloated backside, it's policy for X."

I suspect that sign is there because no one wants to take it down. Could be that in '95 the manager heard about putting up non-compliant .30-'06 signs to stroke the sheople but not have the TSRA boycott them at a seminar from a corporate lawyer.

I see fewer and fewer signs in Tejas. That one will go someday as well.:)
 
Combat-wombat said.......
What is PC 30.06, anyway?
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30.06 is the code that stipulates the precise requirements for a sign if you don't want CHL on your premises. Principally, it says contrasting lettering of at least one inch in height and must be bilingual. The required verbage is very precise.

To tell the truth, I ain't but ever seed one. I saw one that came pretty close at a local Popeyes but it's only at that one location. A couple of places in the Rio Grande Valley have tried it (Blockbuster, for one) but the results made them change their minds.

What we see most commonly are very official looking signs that seem to prohibit concealed carry but you must read them close to realize that they stipulate "the unlicensed carry" is what is prohibited.

The only place I make a point of not carrying is in the Post Office. Them Feds got no sense of humor.
 
Well first off if the food I recieved a Applebee's is considered food then i do not think I will worry about the sign cause I aint going back.
And if you are comming through Amarillo and expecting to eat at Luby's, dont they closed the doors three months ago.
 
Ever since Applebee's discontinued their yummy cheesy breadsticks, I haven't been much of a patron, anyways. ;)
 
must be a whole different operation down there, the applebees I go to in WA has great service, good food and no sign saying you can't carry except for the 30.06 posted in the bar.
 
The Applebee's in Richardson, TX clearly states at the door that it is a felony to carry concealed there without a CHL permit. Fair enough. This particular location has some of the best sirloin steaks for the price around, and they see me on a lot of Mondays because they drop the price for them just for that day.
 
In the St. Louis area the service is usually good, food okay and no anti signs that I have seen but will start paying a little more attention when I go into places such as Applebee's
 
It's not that bad!

Oh, I will admit it's no Ruth Chris Steakhouse, but as far as a place I feel okay bringing my (sometimes) fussy 11 month old too, Applebee's isn't half bad.

Out here in Washington, they have no signs like that...as long as you sit at the tables in the dining area. I think they may have something in the 'Bar' section though.

Kind of makes it tough here in Washington...you can carry in a resteraunt that serves alcohol, but not a bar that serves food. Not quite sure what the actual determing criteria are, but, I'm careful not to push it.
 
another side note...

you must remember if you go to almost any franchise restaurant you will find your food being cooked by high school or college kids

none of whom are studying the culinary arts.

i avoid them like the plague, having been one of those high school/college kids cooking your food in the past myself.

:what::eek:

oh, i never got an answer to the 260,000 licensed handgun owners in texas

are we sure we're not missing a zero or something??

m
 
Priv8ter,

Not quite sure what the actual determing criteria are, but, I'm careful not to push it.
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In WA, the criteria is whether or not it is within the "Under 21 Not Admitted" section. If your kid can't legally enter, neither can your gun. Taking a gun into an "Under 21 Not Admitted" area is a specific violation of the gun codes.

Btw, the 30.06 signs are strictly a Texas thing. Up here in WA any old "no guns allowed" sign meets the law's criteria ... but such a sign has no separate force under the law. If they catch you and verbally request that you leave and you stick around anyway, you could be guilty of (at worst) a misdemeanor under the trespass laws, not a violation under the gun codes.

pax
 
280PLUS,

According to the TX DPS there are 226,179 active licenses as of May 1, 2003.

nemesis,

The only place I make a point of not carrying is in the Post Office. Them Feds got no sense of humor.
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There is debate on this topic, and I personally believe there is no legal reason for a lawful CHL holder NOT to carry in a post office in Texas. If you want to read more on the topic, you can go here.
 
Quantrill---Next time you're passing through Amarillo to Az., you are going to have to find a a new place to eat. Our Lubys are gone along with the K-Marts.
 
Yeah, never seen a sign here except at schools, and I think those are meant for the kids :D

Otherwise, never seen a sign like that in California (what QBG said) ;) I think people here assume that carrying a gun is illegal no matter what.
 
If you are stupid enough to show them your "CONCEALED" handgun, then they can ask you to leave. That's all. If you come back and are again stupid enough to show them your gun, which is supposed to be concealed, then the can have you arrested for trespassing, not for carrying illegally. Keep the gun concealed and no problem. If a nut comes in and tries to kill you all bets are off.
 
Its not about the carrying russ, its about spending money in an establishment that doesn't respect or agree with RKBA.

Heck, whenever I see that little sign with the crossed out handgun I can go in there and walk around armed but I really don't want to because there is a good chance that corporation supports gun control, has lobbied against my rights or has donated to VPC, HCI or their ilk.
 
Applebees.....theyboil their ribs!!!
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Parboil, usually. Meaning they boil for a bit, then finish them in the smoker to quicken cooking. I imagine Applebee's doesn't have a smoker, though. A lot of BBQ joints do this, but none that I'll eat in more than once.


As to seeing signs in non-CCW states, I don't think I've ever seen them except at govt. facilities.
 
Dear [email protected]:

I understand you have e-mailed Mr. Gregg Spickler, the Director of Operations for the Applebee’s in San Antonio, concerning your handgun.

I told him I will personally respond.

I am pleased that you are a guest of Applebee’s in San Antonio and I hope your patronage will continue but it will not continue with you carrying a concealed weapon into one of our restaurants. We have a notice posted in all of our lobbies asking that this not occur.


Le me repeat, we want to keep your business, but only without your handgun.

I am enclosing the TX law for you to read.


30.06 Trespass by Holder of License to Carry Concealed Handgun

A license holder commits an offense if the license holder comes on the property without effective consent and receives notice that an entry by a license holder with a concealed handgun was forbidden, or remaining on the property with a concealed handgun was forbidden and failed to depart.


Hopefully, you will continue to do business and patronize our Applebee’s in the future.

Sincerely,


Frank A. DeAngelo

President of Applejam of TX, Inc.
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They didn't respond to my original letter and the Applebees I went to had no 30.06 sign.

I didn't write them concerning my handgun it was about a stupid
sign "no weapons of any kind even with a permit.

I guess I can officially boycott Applebees and Applejam inc.

Lets spread the word.
 
I imagine Applejam may have more than Applebee's franchises. Ask them for a list of their operations, then start posting here, packing.org, etc. so all gun-owners can know which establishments NOT to patronize.
 
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