Applied for WA CPL; Oregonians read this

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Gray Peterson

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I'm from Hillsboro, OR, and I had to apply for a Washington CPL. The reason for this is that since I use public transit to get around the Portland metro area, I have no ability to comply with Washington State law on transport of a firearm. Simply enough, unless you're there to go to your business, or to a range, or something other than approved, I would be illegal to carry a handgun concealed, even if it were in a locked box, unloaded that was being carried around by me.

So, because of my lack of car, I had to apply for a CPL in Washington, since it was across the river. Also, I have to go to Richmond, VA next month and Washington permits are recognized as valid, but Oregon permits are not (the likely reason for this is that WA Department of Licensing has a registry of permit holders, but The Oregon State Police does not).

I checked several potential places to apply within public transit reach, including the Clark County Sheriffs office. The reason I didn't apply there was that they require you to wait 3 weeks if you write a personal check, and they tell you it will take 60 days on top of that to get your permit. Basically, they'd sit on it.

After doing a bit of research, finding out Vancouver doesn't issue permits, they refer to Clark County, and the other little cities seemed a little out of the way, I chose Camas, WA PD for my application and my money.

Took me nearly two hours to arrive there, because I had to take C Tran 105 Express from downtown Portland to downtown Vancouver, take 37 Mill Plain to Fishers Landing Transit Center, and then the 92 Camas/Washougal to Camas PD. (This was after taking the MAX from Hillsboro to Portland city center).

I finally arrived. For a small city, the PD building was rather ornate. The people there were very courteous, the clerk very nice. She took my money order for 18 dollars, and my check for 42 dollars. Paid for it, give me a booklet to read. Took a while for a police officer to arrive to do my finger printing. I had to sign my permit (yes, they had the permit right there, but I couldn't take possession of it until the background checks clear). Btw, the permit itself is not a huge checkbook size piece of paper like it was reported, or perhaps was before. It isn't credit card sized, but you can stuff it in your pocket easy.

Anyway, the cop finally arrived after about 10 minutes. Got the fingerprinting done (it was old style, not electronic). He asked me what I needed the permit for (Now, he didn't ask this in a negative tone), had any close calls with anyone, I said "No, I'm getting it because I use public transit, it's inconvenient even if I did have my own car to comply with the car/gun carry law, and I wanted to visit Vancouver and Seattle on a regular basis, plus a Washington CPL is valid in where I was going to visit in a month, Virginia". He did not know that Virginia recognized Washington permits. Not suprising, because Washington recognizes no other state by statute.

Anyway, it got done in five minutes, got everythign signed up, and they told me I'd get it in the mail within 30 days, probably sooner.

Very courteous, overall, just like at the Washington County Sheriff's Office in Oregon.
 
Glad you had a good experience.. I got my WA CPL when I lived in Seattle, and it was utterly painless. Went in and paid/got printed on a Friday, had my permit in the mail on Monday.

Everyone in every state should be so lucky.

BTW: you need a friend or two to bum rides from ;)
 
Good deal! I live in Kitsap County, WA and I had my original permit done by the Bremerton Police Department and a replacement done by the Kitsap County Sheriff. Neither of them asked me any questions except for the ones on the application. The Kitsap County Sheriff's Office even laminated the permit for me! It's pretty painless to get a CC permit here in WA state . . . unlike some of the horror stories I've heard from other parts of the country, especially in states like Maryland.
 
Lonnie, I did not realize that WA issued CPLs to people from out of state. I think its cool though. Why did you have to give them a money order for $18 and a check for $42? I don't remember having to jump through hoops when I got my CPL but then that was many years ago. ;)
 
Glad you had a good experience.. I got my WA CPL when I lived in Seattle, and it was utterly painless. Went in and paid/got printed on a Friday, had my permit in the mail on Monday.

I hope I'm that lucky!

BTW: you need a friend or two to bum rides from

I do, but they have jobs, unlike me. :p Besides, I have a TriMet monthly pass. Might as well make use of it.

Lonnie, I did not realize that WA issued CPLs to people from out of state. I think its cool though. Why did you have to give them a money order for $18 and a check for $42? I don't remember having to jump through hoops when I got my CPL but then that was many years ago.

That have for a very long time. In fact, for a short period of time, Seattle issued them entirely by mail, but 9/11 and the DOL shut that down.

Unfortunately, it's not as easy to get a non-resident permit from Oregon, even if you live in Washington. You basically have to go to Clatsop County on the coast in order to get a hassle free experience.
 
getting my WA CPL was pretty painless too, went to the county building in seattle and was out of there in less than an hour, got the permit in the mail a few days later
 
I have a WA CCW and I live in VA (I also have a VA CCW), but if I ever moved away from VA I would still have my WA. I got mine from Clark County and received it 2 days before the 60 day period. I knew I was not returning to WA for a little while so it was fine. The process was painless and they were very nice. Does anyone know if you have to apply in person for the renewal? Now if I could only get a Non-Resident OR permit...Anyone out there can help;)
 
Sounds like the out-of-stater's had it easier than me. I applied in Seattle and had to wait the full 60 days (or is it 30). Whatever it is, I had to wait the entire time and then go pick it up in person. And the people in the office seemed to look down on you getting a permit. They also asked me why I was getting it. Good thing I don't have to renew for a while.

-Pytron
 
I went to the Clark County Office. They were very nice and gave me no problems. They did say that it would take 60 days though. I can't remember what the date was but I think it is getting pretty close.
 
rperry03

I believe that if you have a WA ccw you can get an Oregon CHL. But you have a few hoops to jump through like proving you haven't been commited during the past so many years, that sort of thing.

I just got my chl in Multnomah county and had to wait the full 45 days, but the people were very friendly.
 
Just got my permit in the mail today. I checked and I applied for it on 4/23/03. Alittle less than 60 days>:D
 
Not to take the thread of course but i didn't want to ask a new question on the board that is about oregon ccw..

I am thinking of getting my carrying permit ..What procedures do i need to go through.Besides taking the nra class
 
Lars,

Congratulations, I got mine on the 31st.

Multnomah county mailed mine on the 45th day. I believe state law says that they have 45 days to disqualify you or they must approve you.

chetrogers

All you have to do is take the NRA course.
Call the sherrifs office and make an appointment
Either go to the sherrifs office or the courthouse and pick up the forms.
Fill out the forms
Show up on the day of your appointment with $65.
They will take your paperwork and money.
They will take your picture and fingerprints.
They will tell you when to expect your CHL in the mail.

Nothing to it. The form is about a 10 minute thing and they never called my references. It is good for 4 years.

Good luck.
DM
 
Chet-

Just found out that the Multnomah Co. Sherriffs office teaches the class on Wednesday nights at their building on 122nd Avenue. They charge $20.00. I think that's about as inexpensive as it gets for the class.
 
What would be a reason they would tell you no you couldnt have one? other then you didnt pass the class ect...

I have never been arrested or anything like that but im young "25" they cant hold that against a person can they?
 
OR CHL Statute References

chetrogers,

See http://www.leg.state.or.us/ors/166.html

Scroll down to 166.291 for statutory requirements.

As long as you meet the specified minimum requirements your age is not an issue. You do have to have been a resident of OR for at least six months. There is no requirement to 'pass' a class, only to attend and, if it's important to you, to pay attention.

If you'll be applying in Multnomah county you should also look this over (when it comes back up): http://www.recguns.com/Sources/IIC1g3.html
 
What do they teach you in the classes? I didn't have to take them, all I had to do is show my DD-214. The Washington permit I just got didn't require any training eather.

Lars
 
i can't believe it took almost 60 days. i applied at the Tacoma Courthouse, 930 Tacoma Ave. right downtown. it took all of 30 minutes. i filled out the application, went upstairs to get finger printed, and by the time i went back downstairs, my permit was ready for me and issued to me on the spot. i'd recommend going there instead, they seem to be much more speedy and efficient.

Bobby
 
Thurston County SO is painless; I originally got mine in Clark County ten years ago or so but they renew without a hassle. The sheriff is a shooter and rumor has it he sometimes carries a .45 Peacemaker as a duty weapon! Only problem is they only take cash for the $60 fee and charge a couple bucks extra to laminate it. Easy to do, though.
 
hmm, Multinohma told me no way no how could I EVER get a out of state permit so don't bother applying. (I have Idaho CCW). Wa won't issue me one either.. maybe I should try for Florida.

and remember, Seattle is King County. they don't call it King County for nothing. there the King of the State and they don't like guns and they don't let people forget it.
 
Chet -- look at the info at www.packing.org . Basically, you have to fit certain legal requirements, go through a class, pay the fee, and get a background check run (they'll want fingerprints). If you are not legally disbarred from owning a gun, they have to issue the permit once you have passed the background check.

Lonnie, Lars -- congrats. Use them well.

NB,

Oregon is shall-issue for residents, may-issue for residents of states which directly border Oregon, and may-not-issue for states which do not border Oregon. In all cases, OR permits require a training class.

If you live in ID, OR cannot issue you a permit. If you live in WA, OR may issue you a permit -- but Multnomah County won't do it. Because it is "may" issue, you have to find a friendly top LEO (rumor has it that the one out in Astoria is good; I'm not sure where else but any rural county is more likely to issue than any city is).

WA is shall-issue for both residents and non-residents, so it's possible you got bad info about the WA permit (which is called a Concealed Pistol License). There is no training class requirement in WA (and that is the ostensible reason why Oregon & Washington do not recognize each other's permits). If I were you, I would find a different sheriff to talk to about getting a WA CPL.

Hope that helps.

pax
 
Pax,

Why can't they issue a permit if you are from Idaho? The states border, thought that made it a "May Issue" state.

Idaho recognises Oregon CHL, I thought there was reciprocity.

DM
 
:eek: :D :eek:

Ummmmmm, Idaho borders Oregon.

I knew that. Just a temporary brain fade, that's all.

Nothing to see here, move along.

*crawling back under a rock*

pax

Laughing at our mistakes can lengthen our own life. Laughing at someone else's can shorten it. -- Cullen Hightower
 
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