I have been looking at replacing my factory collapsible stocks with better stocks. I have looked at VLTOR and Magpul. I am looking for a good solid stock, though I don't mid the callapsible type as long as it locks up tight. I have an ACE fixed stock on one of rifles and love it but right now I want to know which adjustable stock you guys prefer and why. I would like to stay in the $100 price range.
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jerkface11
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Choate makes a copy of the vltor that is heavier and more rugged than the real thing.
In the Magpul lineup, coming down from the UBR (which is a bit more than you want to spend), the ACS offers a storage (3 compartments) and a good cheek weld. If you don't need the third compartment, the STR is a nice route to go.CZ223 said:
I went the CTR route a very stable stock with it's friction locking lever as an initial stock for my build, before finally going with the MFT Battlelink Minimalist stock (BMS) for the weight savings.
The BMS isn't as wobble free as the CTS, but I'm sure I can find a strip of Velcro in the house to address it
TanklessPro
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I use the CTR also on all of my rifles. What's not to like, but I guess some may not like it.
The only downside I found was the weight penalty over the BMS...I seem to remember something light 40%...CTR 9oz, BMS 5.8oz
I thought it was interesting that the BMS weighs more than my BCM KMR handguard (5.5oz)
I thought it was interesting that the BMS weighs more than my BCM KMR handguard (5.5oz)
I went with the ACS-L with just the one flat storage compartment. Still a good cheek weld without the tubular "wings".
If you want a light weight, solid, affordable stock take a look at the magpul fixed carbine stock.
It's light weight and looks like a CTR/MOE but without the wobble, and priced about $48.
The length is the same as a CTR/MOE extended out two clicks from fully collapsed.
Fits over a standard carbine buffer tube and takes about 30 seconds to install with a screwdriver.
Doesn't yank facial hair like some of the short adjustable stocks do.
I've since converted all my AR's to fixed carbine stocks.
It's light weight and looks like a CTR/MOE but without the wobble, and priced about $48.
The length is the same as a CTR/MOE extended out two clicks from fully collapsed.
Fits over a standard carbine buffer tube and takes about 30 seconds to install with a screwdriver.
Doesn't yank facial hair like some of the short adjustable stocks do.
I've since converted all my AR's to fixed carbine stocks.
Deog
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Not trying to hijack this thread, but i would like suggestions for a A2 butt stock for a M and P 15.
To give you an idea of the difference
Here is my rifle with the Magpul CTR
...and with the MFT BMS
Here is my rifle with the Magpul CTR
...and with the MFT BMS
The MFT BMS stock is a nice solid stock, a coworker has one and it's a snug fit.
But my coat pocket hooked on the buttstock and almost dragged the rifle off the bench onto the concrete, and I caught it just in time. So the exaggerated hook shape can catch on things if you are not careful.
But my coat pocket hooked on the buttstock and almost dragged the rifle off the bench onto the concrete, and I caught it just in time. So the exaggerated hook shape can catch on things if you are not careful.
I've never hooked mine on anything and I've been trying it in various positions and in various techniques to see if it was going to be an issue. I can't even think of a bench which is a coat pocket level, but even if there was one, why would you leave the stock overhanging the edge?
I didn't see the point of the paracord attachment, but that is the way I would have gone if snagging was an issue
I didn't see the point of the paracord attachment, but that is the way I would have gone if snagging was an issue
Our range has narrow tables at waist height and all weapons must be pointed downrange at all times. So it's inevitable that the rifles end up overhanging the front and rear of the tables. It's not hard to find a situation that the big hook of a buttstock would catch on something, so use the paracord. That little incident disqualified the BMS stock for me, but to each their own.
Thanks for all the replies
Well, I just finished dressing up my new Windham AR-10. I can't figure out an easy way to post pics with my phone or I would. If anyone can help in that department, I would appreciate it greatly. I didn't get anything real fancy but I think it looks pretty good. I went all black for this one. I put on a Magpul mid-length fore end with a bottom mounted rail for the the Magpul vertical grip. I went with the CTR stock from Magpul. Very solid feel to it. I went with Diamondhead steel sights both front and rear. I also bought a PEPER QD scope mount for mounting my 6.5x20 Leupold VX-3 when I want to use the scope. I have not had a chance to mount it yet though. Anyway, the gun looks pretty mean just the way it is and the 308 is a real step up from the 223.
I did not replace the factory grip yet for two reasons, the first being that it is very comfortable, it is made by Hogue. The Second reason is that the one Magpul that I liked, the one with a rubbery texture, was not available today. The only other accesory I got for it other than a gun bag, 4 Magpul mags and 2 C-products steel mags was a single point bungee sling from Black Hawk. I may change the forend over to a free float design in the future if I end up using this with the scope a lot. One down, a few more to go.
Well, I just finished dressing up my new Windham AR-10. I can't figure out an easy way to post pics with my phone or I would. If anyone can help in that department, I would appreciate it greatly. I didn't get anything real fancy but I think it looks pretty good. I went all black for this one. I put on a Magpul mid-length fore end with a bottom mounted rail for the the Magpul vertical grip. I went with the CTR stock from Magpul. Very solid feel to it. I went with Diamondhead steel sights both front and rear. I also bought a PEPER QD scope mount for mounting my 6.5x20 Leupold VX-3 when I want to use the scope. I have not had a chance to mount it yet though. Anyway, the gun looks pretty mean just the way it is and the 308 is a real step up from the 223.
I did not replace the factory grip yet for two reasons, the first being that it is very comfortable, it is made by Hogue. The Second reason is that the one Magpul that I liked, the one with a rubbery texture, was not available today. The only other accesory I got for it other than a gun bag, 4 Magpul mags and 2 C-products steel mags was a single point bungee sling from Black Hawk. I may change the forend over to a free float design in the future if I end up using this with the scope a lot. One down, a few more to go.To post pictures you should transfer the picture to your computer first. I've never found a way to do it directly from a phone.
Sounds like you got a nice setup. Lots of online shops have that magpul MOE+ grip in stock in various colors if you want to chase it down and it's very easy to install. It is worth noting that some colors like the OD Green aren't a 100% match with the plastic OD Green furniture. It is a slightly different shade due to the rubber overmolding. I don't know if any other colors are slightly off or not, but I remember that one specifically is. I like black so I'd be easy to please...if it's dark I'll run with it.
Sounds like you got a nice setup. Lots of online shops have that magpul MOE+ grip in stock in various colors if you want to chase it down and it's very easy to install. It is worth noting that some colors like the OD Green aren't a 100% match with the plastic OD Green furniture. It is a slightly different shade due to the rubber overmolding. I don't know if any other colors are slightly off or not, but I remember that one specifically is. I like black so I'd be easy to please...if it's dark I'll run with it.
I'm curious why so many focus on the buttstock when any firearm gets hooked a lot in dense growth. If you have trained in the service, or hunt in dense cover, you discover most of your anatomy can get hooked outdoors or in close confines. I've had the sling swivels, front sight, forward assist, and grip get hooked on uniforms and web gear, much less vegetation, vehicles, tentage, etc etc etc. It's one long day negotiating the world in full battle rattle.
I'm not having any problems with the Minimalist I installed, but, I don't choose them for range bench use. The stock fits closely, adjusts well, no rattles, and it is lighter, too. I converted to carbine buffer and the adjustability is preferable especially when shooting at a bench in warm weather or hunting in early winter with heavy clothing on.
Cons are few - I'm not impressed with MFT's version of Foliage Green, and the installation makes a lot of the other GI parts appear overbuilt and redundant. Which, they are - 36 inches of rail for just a few accessories, or a cast steel front sight when the upper has had a mounted optic for the last 15 years. My carbine now seems to need a light free float to match. Maybe before hunting season.
This style of stock has been evolving since the ACE and Ergo. Those didn't seem to alarm many over the issue of hooking the butt, especially the ACE in it's use as an entry team accessory. If it suits what you need it to do, that's fine, if not, maybe it will reduce the huge demand for it and that will make it easier to find on the shelf.
I'm not having any problems with the Minimalist I installed, but, I don't choose them for range bench use. The stock fits closely, adjusts well, no rattles, and it is lighter, too. I converted to carbine buffer and the adjustability is preferable especially when shooting at a bench in warm weather or hunting in early winter with heavy clothing on.
Cons are few - I'm not impressed with MFT's version of Foliage Green, and the installation makes a lot of the other GI parts appear overbuilt and redundant. Which, they are - 36 inches of rail for just a few accessories, or a cast steel front sight when the upper has had a mounted optic for the last 15 years. My carbine now seems to need a light free float to match. Maybe before hunting season.
This style of stock has been evolving since the ACE and Ergo. Those didn't seem to alarm many over the issue of hooking the butt, especially the ACE in it's use as an entry team accessory. If it suits what you need it to do, that's fine, if not, maybe it will reduce the huge demand for it and that will make it easier to find on the shelf.
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I really like the Magpul STR. It just feels very solid and is also one of our best sellers.
Fubijar03
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I love the ACS. Haven't been able to bring myself to buy one yet, but they handle great. All of the others mentioned are great. Stock is a hard decision, so many damn options. I would go Vltor or ACS, but I would recommend finding rifles with each. Happy hunting
I think the ACS is a well engineered stock. If i were still 20-something and not as weight sensitive, it is likely what I would have gotten.
I might still find a place for one on a scoped build
I might still find a place for one on a scoped build
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