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AR-15 Over-The-Beach Yes or No?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Life During Wartime, Oct 18, 2019.

  1. Life During Wartime

    Life During Wartime Member

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    I watched this video

    which shows how well an AR-15 can handle mud due to being so closed off from the outside elements, which reminded me of an over the beach test I saw years ago from H&K, wherein the AR-15 kabooms. ()
    While trying to find the video, I found this one:


    So now I am just wondering, if they can or can't be pulled out of water and then fired effectively? I am wondering because of a story I am working on.
     
  2. Speedo66

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    A SEAL could probably answer that question.
     
  3. dfariswheel

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    The trick is to open the bolt slightly and dump the water out of the barrel.
    A larger bore firearm will drain on it's own, but the small bore of the AR series may retain the water

    Navy SEALs and some other Special Ops units that work in the water regularly go swimming with their M4's and they work fine.
    After use in salt water they flush them with fresh water.
    I suspect that if they're going to be in the water very long they may use a heavier lubricant that won't wash off easily.

    If you do some searches you can find any number of photos of people coming out of the water with M4's
     
  4. taliv

    taliv Moderator Staff Member

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    Mud and sand will cause stoppages in any firearm. It just depends on where you put it. If it becomes an obstruction in the barrel it could kaboom
     
  5. kenboyles72

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    Condoms are a SEAL's best friend, think they still use them to cover the muzzle to keep water out. Condoms work great, keeps water out and don't have to remove before firing. If not using anything to cover the muzzle, when coming out of the water, just pull back on the charging handle a bit to drain the water. Biggest thing to worry about, is mud in the barrel, not as easy to notice.
     
  6. taliv

    taliv Moderator Staff Member

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    i'd be extremely surprised if seals actually use condoms. if the rifle is completely submerged water will get in from the back and then the condom, if airtight, will prevent the water from draining, and would turn into a barrel obstruction that could kaboom. much better to just let the water drain out.
     
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  7. GRIZ22

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    Plastic muzzle covers were issued for M16s back in the 60s. They fit tightly over the birdcage flash supressor and did a decent job of keeping crap out of the bore. I don't know how well they'd do with prolonged submersion of the rifle. They worked well with a round in the chamber for short durations of immersion. If you had to shoot you didn't have to remove the muzzle cover. It would just shoot off.

    A field expedient used was a piece of plastic and rubber band or tape.

    Condoms were used over muzzles in WW2. The brass didn't want photos showing soldiers with this. A canvas muzzle cover was made that fit the Garand, M1 carbine, and 03 Springfield.
     
  8. taliv

    taliv Moderator Staff Member

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    sure, to keep like, rain out. i used those too. i thought we were talking about the uber tactical seal coming out of the water pics where the rifle is submerged during a swim, presumably for several minutes or longer
     
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