AR-180? I am intrigued! And questions.

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Sterling was the last one to get the dies and jigs. It's always been my understanding (from friends and relatives who have been things like tool and die makers, as well) that they wear out. Others have said for decades they even knew the production setup needed to be updated, and didn't for costs. And this was not necessarily the best timeframe for British industry, QA may have failed to stop the guns that needed rework to meet quotas or just out of ennui.

The Sterlings I have seen mostly had lots of play between upper and lower receiver, extra loose handguards, stocks didn't lock up firmly, etc. I failed to buy a couple a few years after I sold my Howa and finally had money to have more than one rifle at a time, and passed on them because of the quality.

Others were... not. CM and Howa guns I have seen (mine, and others I have not been able to buy or not been able to afford) are as loose and rattly as AR15s, so: essentially not at all. No notable play in any of those parts. My Howa gun had maybe a 1/2° of play in the right side safety lever, and that was all that I could find that wasn't nearly perfect. The scope mount was perfectly RTZ, for example.
 
I 100% agree on the Daewoo's. I have owned 4...I sadly only have one but don't plan on ever selling it. (GB Sr banned their import.) It is one of the best EBR's I have ever owned.

If you like the AR-180's you may want to also look at the MPAR 556 that have sadly been discontinued. MSRP was orginally about $1,000 but they are getting collectible. They are heavy but very cool with a left side non-reciprocating charging handle, adjustable head port, AR mag well, the inverted double short piston & of course the folding adjustable stocks. They are based on the AR-180's & is an updated version of the Australian Leader Dynamics T2...which very few made it to the US. I think they are really cool because they are different but still AR based with controls & magazines. Here is an article...

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/03/18/review-masterpiece-arms-mpar-556-gen-2/


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I 100% agree on the Daewoo's. I have owned 4...I sadly only have one but don't plan on ever selling it. (GB Sr banned their import.) It is one of the best EBR's I have ever owned.

If you like the AR-180's you may want to also look at the MPAR 556 that have sadly been discontinued. MSRP was orginally about $1,000 but they are getting collectible. They are heavy but very cool with a left side non-reciprocating charging handle, adjustable head port, AR mag well, the inverted double short piston & of course the folding adjustable stocks. They are based on the AR-180's & is an updated version of the Australian Leader Dynamics T2...which very few made it to the US. I think they are really cool because they are different but still AR based with controls & magazines. Here is an article...

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/03/18/review-masterpiece-arms-mpar-556-gen-2/


Another thumbs up for the Daewoo's. I have a K1 (collection), a K2 (collection), and a Post Ban K2 (my shooter) with skeleton folder. Very good rifles to shoot and definitely different than standard fare.
 
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