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AR15: Purchasing a new rifle, but which and why?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by meanmrmustard, Oct 6, 2012.

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Which to buy?

Poll closed Nov 5, 2012.
  1. Del Ton Dissipator

    5 vote(s)
    5.5%
  2. Sig M400

    16 vote(s)
    17.6%
  3. PSA PA-15CR

    10 vote(s)
    11.0%
  4. S&W M&P Sport...again!

    26 vote(s)
    28.6%
  5. A PSA middy upper, BCM BCG, lower to be named "franken rifle"

    34 vote(s)
    37.4%
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  1. meanmrmustard

    meanmrmustard Member

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    Well, I guess that's true. I usually have a hat light that clips to my bill. But, I don't know. Never needed one before, better to have it and not need it and all that.

    I am an avid Surefire user.
     
  2. DNS

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    The Sport with the 5R rifling.

    Only accurate rifles are interesting and it'll be the most accurate of all on your list.:)
     
  3. Warp

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    If you don't mind having a light on your head that is either on at all times (talk about making your a target), off at all times (not useful), or requires you to take your hand completely off your rifle in order to use it.

    An "affordable" Surefire weapon light.

    http://www.vikingtactics.com/lightsmounts_surefirel4.html
     
  4. meanmrmustard

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    This I know. I've had many a paper punching joy with one.
     
  5. meanmrmustard

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    Well, on my head or on my rifle, a target is a target. But, I will check out the link. Thank you.

    Have you been using your rifle as of late?
     
  6. jim243

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    Not to be argumentitive, but if you have a Cabela's around you may want to look at the Windham rifles, they are built as good as any Colt (even better) and have a Lifetime Warranty (not your life time but the rifles) and are transferable with the rilfe.

    Jim
     
  7. meanmrmustard

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    Why, exactly is the Windham better? It uses the same barrel steel as the Sport, but is chrome lined. Therefore, I'd bet my bottom dollar that the Sport shames the WW accuracy wise, and at a cheaper price point.

    The Colt uses machine gun barrel steel, rigid and resilient. If I'm going all out, I'm getting the Colt for the same price. If I'm going budget, PSA build or the Sport which I've owned before. I'm sure they are nice, but why get less for more?

    Why is it better?
     
  8. jim243

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    Because, I trust these people, I don't trust Colt or S&W to the same degree.


    Jim
     
  9. Warp

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    The difference, and the point, is that you can control, immediately, whether the light is on or off, without removing your hand from the rifle. Hopefully you wouldn't just turn the rifle mounted light on and leave it on for the entirety in a situation where somebody might be targeting you.

    Haven't shot it for weeks. Will have it at another Appleseed two weeks from today. Will probably go o the range once before then to get my zero back to 25 yards, and verify. I only have about 675 rounds through it so far. I'll get hundreds more by next month.
     
  10. meanmrmustard

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    I'm in that boat, but I'm willing to give Colt another try.

    Smith has my loyalty.
     
  11. meanmrmustard

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    Sweet deal.

    As far as the light goes, I'm not so much worried about who is targeting me as much as "what" is targeting me. We have bold coyote packs, many stray dogs.

    Cougar sightings in my county, those to the north, and bears are pushing northward from Arkansas. Mustn't forget increasing hog populations. I'm more likely to encounter a rabid coyote or quite possibly a mountain lion, than I am an assailant on my property.
     
  12. jim243

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    I'd trust S&W over Colt. But I'd trust Ruger over S&W. The only rifle company I would trust more is Savage, but I don't think they make an AR. (LOL)

    Good Luck, it is never easy when spending hard earn cash, I know.
    Jim
     
  13. Warp

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    I wasn't aware that Ruger made high quality, reputable AR15s...
     
  14. meanmrmustard

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    Reputable, maybe not. High quality, not certain. High priced, absolutely. They're not on my list of possibles.
     
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    Spikes is an excellent company, if you get lucky and find a complete lower from them. Thankfully they are local to me and I have a couple of they're lowers. Nothing but high quality and good things to say about them.

    If you wanted to build your own rifle (or just the lower) I'd highly recommend Spikes. There's a good reason they are always back-ordered, because of the high demand for their quality products. Your best bet in finding one is at a local gun show or a private sale.

    Out of your poll I would suggest the SigM400. Price is about right. I also have a thing about buying a complete AR vs building one: you get the warranty from the manufacturer in case anything is amiss. When you build one from parts, if anything goes wrong you have to fix/replace parts on your own dime. I kinda hate that when things wear out or break on my M4geries, but its the nature of the animal.

    Anyway good luck with your choice. You can't really go wrong with any of them, Although I'll put Delton on the bottom of my list.
     
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    He decided on a Colt 6920
     
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    I'm getting a 6920. Thanks for the input though.
     
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    Oops a bit late on this I guess, but he made a good choice! Hopefully Colt treats him good this time.
     
  19. Warp

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    I like to check what has been posted over the 2+ pages before posting a reply. ;)
     
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    I've been turned off by the representatives' online behavior. I've seen them make open and unprovoked as well as unsubstantiated attacks on competitors among other behavior. Not what I'd call an "excellent" company.

    They make stuff that is comparable to PSA in quality, but simply more expensive. Which is probably why they show so much open disdain for PSA, who I can only guess has seriously cut into their market share over the past couple years.

    I'd rather have the Colt the OP is buying than a comparable spikes gun.
     
  21. Warp

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    You are FAAAR from the only one to have observed this and come to this opinion/conclusion.
     
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    Just to add to the convo, I've been to a few courses with this same topic about lights being a target. I don't know when the last time you tried to shoot with an LED light in your eyes. I fine it next to impossible to hit anything with that light in my eyes. I've had my Soldiers and instructors try it many times just to prove a point. Not being mean just sharing some experience.
     
  23. Warp

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    Because you are guaranteed to hit every adversary in the eyes with your light at all times when it is activated.
     
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    I have a not-so-affordable ($350) Surefire on my AR-10 carbine, and it's slated to be replaced by the less expensive and vastly superior US-made Streamlight TLR-1HP. I have a standard TLR-1 on my nightstand gun and a TLR-1HP on my Armalite M15A2 Carbine. They're not the cheapest or most expensive lights on the market, and I have not found anything better

    Surefire is just making you pay an awful lot for a name these days, IMO.
     
  25. Warp

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    Which is why I was happy to find this one for $175. The head and tailcap are from the Scout weaponlight and the body is from an E2D-L
     
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