Are $60 dollar scopes worth it (under 200 yards)?

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I just picked up a BSA sweet 22 6-18x40 for $75 shipped, the 3-9 version can be had for around $60 on ebay. So far the scope works great for the price. Image is clear at 150yds at 14x, once you go over that it gets dark and fuzzy. That's why I bought the 6-18x, bc usually the low end scope get dark and fuzzy at max magnification. So I figured I would only use 6-12 on this scope but the 14x is still pretty good. I think it is great for a .22.

It really depends on what you are using it for. For my 2 long range rifles I would not put a cheap scope. But a 22 that I shot in my back yard well then yeah a cheapy is fine for me.

APV Mueller is 4.5-14x for about $150 and it is a one of the favorites among the rimfire crowd. Plenty of reviews on it over at rimfirecentral. I have one on a 22mag and its works just fine for me. I shoot .5" groups at 100yds fully zoomed in. Eye relief kind of sucks but I can get use to anything.
 
No! Had too many issues with cheap scopes, the least expensive scope that has performed well for me has been the Nikon Prostaff $140, well worth the investment.
 
I have a Bushnell Banner 1.5-4.5x32mm that I actually really like. It's on a 77/44 and I had the intention of replacing it but after I used it I liked it. And I'm the type that subscribe to the pay as much for the scope as the gun mentality.
 
I have 4x fixed UTG scopes that worked great, right until it didn't. I 'got my money's worth' I guess but it went south during a match, and that was no fun at all.

I have a number of scopes from Tasco, Burris, Leupold, Weaver etc. Most of my US made scopes are over 15 years old, some 40 years old and still work fine.

Nikon is a great value for the money on the market these days, plus they have a warranty unlike UTG and other rebranded Chinese stuff.
 
I have destroyed high dollar scopes on a 50 BMG where a $29 Tasco lived for the rest of the weekend.

I have a 45-70, that with "hot loads" will tell you pretty quickly if a scope will make it.

I have gone through as many as 4 cheap ones to get one that didn't shift.

That said I have had $700+ scopes, on the same rifle that would never zero at all because they couldn't hold shot to shot.

You can return all of them but you bite less fingernails getting a few hundred dollars worth of cheap ones at walmart to go test them out and return the rest.

If you have a solid way to mount one, like a rail mounted in a bench vise, first do a simple test.

Zero the optic on a specific dot. Then move it up from center, over right of center, down to the bottom, back over to the left, up to the top again, over to center and back down to center again on a square, a set number of "clicks" at the limits of its range. If it is not at the same position when your done you need not go any further.

Depends on the range of the optic how many "clicks" you go (you can rotate the optic in a v block to center the reticle.

This costs nothing to do, over and over. If it repeats then you can move onto shooting and retest to make sure.
 
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You can't hit what you can't see , the better the scope the better you can see. $60.00 scopes = accident looking for a place to happen. I.E. fail .
 
This is one of those, you get what you pay for,I bought cheap scopes, and they either broke right after I used them, or they were junk before I even put them on my rifle, bottom line, the cheap scopes cost me more in the end, then the most expensive scope I have,
 
There are some scopes that the average hunter can buy for $60, and they will likely last you a lifetime of hunting if you do not go out every weekend, and shoot up 200 rounds from a high powered rifle.

I know people who use old Redfields, Simmons, and Bushnells on their hunting rifles. They have had them on there for decades, and they kill deer every year out to 200 yards. Calibers are from .30-30 to .30-06 and anything in between. YMMV
 
All scopes, given enough use, will break. It happens. You typically get much longer life from a more expensive optic, though lemons do slip through. You typically get better turrets (in every way) with a more expensive optic. You typically get better glass with a more expensive optic. You also typically get a better warranty with a more expensive optic. There are inexpensive scopes that last. They were the ones where all the tolerances stacked in the scopes favor. Some have good enough glass. Some last a lifetime of deer season hunting. Who knows until you spend your money. I'd rather pay extra and play better odds.

I hate the "optics snob" mentality that only the most elite priced optic works. With that in mind, I certainly think you get more value by buying other than China. Most of the Philippine optics are a good buy. Not quite up to Japan standards typically, but you seem to get a solid step up from China optics. At that point, I'd still suggest buying as nice as you can afford but I would accept that quality level and up.

One day, over a given range session, I made the jump from all bottom priced optics. It hit me that I spend the majority of my time looking through this device, adjusting magnification and turrets, trying to line things up just right. All this time spent mostly looking and fine tuning positions until what I saw was just right. The rifle itself is mostly just sitting there waiting on what I see. Its use is for a very short timeframe. I have/had no problems spending $500-$1000 on a rifle that mostly does nothing yet justifying the money on an optic that is in use more often than any other piece of equipment seemed silly. Once I went to better glass, I found my eyes were less fatigued, I finished without a headache, I could see detail that was missed, etc etc. it was an all around better experience. In the US we tend to justify the bulk of the budget on the rifle, since if it doesn't shoot, a good optic won't fix it. With the same in mind though, if an optic won't hold zero, repeat adjustment, track true, or is overly picky on eye relief/position, a good rifle won't fix it either.

Anymore, short of maybe a Nikon or two on some rimfires, I really wouldn't be interested in a scope made today under the $200-$300 price range. If one were to present that receives a solid track record of great performance for bottom dollar, I'd be glad to use it. A good optic has precision ground glass, coatings that are well studied and properly applied, a tube that is durable and precision sized/fit, adjustments that are durable, accurate, and precise. As well as all the other little parts, locks, and threads that have to be done to very tight tolerance. Its hard to imagine where a cheap optic, especially one that has to be shipped across the globe, sent to an importer, then to a distributor, then to the retail store, and finally to you, leaves enough money in the selling price to pay for that precision. A $50 scope would sell to the retailer for $30-$40, to the distributor for $25-$30, come into the importer for $10-$20, then need shipping from China, any local taxes in China, as well as pay for labor and materials on $10-$20 a piece. I can't imagine that gets you much quality, consistently.
 
well all I ever had was tasco,simmons,bushnell,bsa,etc, most from Walmart, and all was good for me, I like all of them and have had no problems at all! :)
 
A friend of mine shoots a lot, and he has a bunch of cheap scopes and red dots on his guns, and the winners are:

The Aim Sports that CDNN sells seem to be pretty tough.
The Bushnell TRS-25 and TRS-32.
Tee Vortex Strikefire green/red dot original version, now discontinued. A couple of places had them for less than 100.00 when they were being closed out. I have one on my AR-15.
Nikon p Series, very nice for a good price. I bought one for $109 back on black friday.

Losers seem to be the low end Simmons scopes, he stopped at two after they both lost their zero on AR-15s.
The BSA super Cheapos from Walmart.
 
Lots of great information here with people telling you which cheap scopes have worked and which have not.

I can't comment on Tesco's and Simmons that I have not used!

Most hilarious comment was from the other 50 BMG driver who's high dollar scope had to be temporarily temporarily replaced with a $29 Tasco!

The turret test recommended above is a very reasonable test.

Be careful when using , nonadjustable objective scopes, that you recognize the difference between zero shift and parallax. That's one reason I am partial to the $69 Walmart Centerpointe adjustable objective. On a really high-quality barrel, parallax can make more difference than barrel error. You will think that your zero has wondered when in fact you have merely put your head in a different position. The difference can exceed 1 inch at 100 yards. Also be mindful of the effects of temperature on spherical propellant muzzle velocity and resultant Barrel tip position at the point of bullet exit. People who don't keep records of how their guns shoot at different temperatures made falsely blametheir scope for this phenomenon.
 
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If you give me the choice between a $300 Shilen or Douglas heavy Barrel, to put on the end of my savage action, ((savage barrels are easy to headspace at home ) versus a $300 scope to replace my $69 cheap scope, I can tell you in a heartbeat that the barrel is going to do me more good.

If you already have a pretty high-quality barrel out there, and you plan to bang the hell out of that gun, then I would get an RCO or ACOG.
 
In a word, no (at that price level they are a waste of money you could have saved toward viable optics).

P.S. I find the $200.00 mark about the benchmark for something truly worthwhile. You blow what could have been the first 1/3 and still need to start over.
JMO, but this is not universally true.
I have a 1x4-24 Optisan scope on one
of my AR rifles that I bought off the Samplist
at SWFA with a mount for $120 bucks.
The glass is very clear and it is robust.
 
Yes I am an optics snob!! That being said in my experiance the best midprice scopes for hunting are Burris and Vortex. Luepypolds are good but it pisses me off that they don't provide lens covers! My rifles all have Swarovski or Nightforce scopes on them!:what:
 
Ditto what ART said in Post 7.

I have a Weaver fixed 6X on a .270. At 100 yards I can regularly shoot 1/2" groups. 200 yards is quick and easy. I think fixed power scopes are more rugged due to having fewer internal parts and I never have to worry about what setting the scope is set on.
 
I have expensive scopes as well as some not so expensive ones. I have had a new Leupold fail less than 200 shots in on a 223 rifle. That being said, I currently own 2 Simmons Whitetail Classic 6-20 x 50 scopes(http://www.midwayusa.com/find?userSearchQuery=simmons+whitetail) that have been as dependable as scopes costing ten times what I paid for them. One of them lives on a TC Encore heavy barrel rifle in 223 while the other sits on a heavy barrel 17HMR. Both rifles will shoot sub MOA all day long with the right load if you do your part(the 17 will regularly shoot 1/4 to 1/2 MOA). I bought the first scope during a sale with rebate and paid around $70 dollars for it. I used it for about two years and liked it enough to buy a second one for $99 dollars. If you are on a budget(and who isn't these days) and the zoom range is acceptable for your intended use, I would recommend taking a look at this scope.
 
As for .22s, I generally put my best Leupolds on them. I spend far more time shooting my .22s than my centerfires, and the targets I shoot them at are FAR smaller. A quality .22 deserves a quality scope.
 
if you prowl flea markets,garage sales and small gun shows you will come upon a used leupold at a good price(even if abused) it will be ok as leupold will either fix it or replace it free. at the last york pa. show in june i saw verix11 2x7 leupold scope in very good condition sell for 135.00,if the man who bought it had laid it down i would have been on it like white on rice. i have never talked to any one who used leupold customer service that complained about it,they may be out there but i have never met one in my 70 years. eastbank.
 
You take a big risk with sub ~$100 scopes on getting issues with tracking or even holding zero. If you take the gamble and it pays off, you can have a workable, short range scope.

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Yes I am an optics snob!! That being said in my experiance the best midprice scopes for hunting are Burris and Vortex. Luepypolds are good but it pisses me off that they don't provide lens covers! My rifles all have Swarovski or Nightforce scopes on them!
I'm pretty sure all Leupold scopes come with either bikini style lens covers or a neoprene scope cover. If you're talking about flip open caps, I don't think Swarovski includes them either, and Nightforce's aren't all that nice.
 
I bought a $40-50 scope for my SKS, which was my first rifle...It would last about 20 shots and then the glass would shatter. I went through three of them before I realized my SKS just wasn't meant to be scoped.

The only weapon I currently have scoped is a 10/22. It had a "cheap" $30 scope from Wal Mart, a Bushnell. It was a simple 3x and did what I needed it to do. It held its zero just fine and was all I needed. Previously I bought the Tasco they sell for like $12. It never got onto zero and was garbage. It felt like it was a magnifying glass in a paper towel roll it was so flimsy.

If you want to call EoTech's and Aimpoints scopes then...

I have the Vortex version of the Aimpoint T1 micro on a 9mm SBR, my buddy has it on an AK. IT comes with all the varying mounts for different heights, has an auto off after several hours, battery life is like 5,000 hours or something ridiculous, its NVG compatable AND it cost me $159and I believe has a lifetime warranty. My EoTechs and Aimpints were closer to $500 and have less features. I had an aimpoint stop working and it was like 6 months outside of warranty. They charged me about $90 to fix it. Not complaining because it was out of warranty but an aimpoint on a safe queen AR that gets handled gently breaks but they are supposed to survive combat? I had an aimpoint on my M16 when I was in Iraq that lost its zero EVERYTIME I turned it on and off. I will say that there is no telling how many times that thing was dropped, scratched, kicked, tossed or pee'd on and how many "Joes" hands had been on it.


I think "cheap" scopes cna be good quality, you just have to look at the reviews, the warranty and customer satisfaction, that wil lhelp you decide.
 
As for .22s, I generally put my best Leupolds on them. I spend far more time shooting my .22s than my centerfires, and the targets I shoot them at are FAR smaller. A quality .22 deserves a quality scope.
Ditto. To the extent that I buy nicer scopes (Vortex, Sightron, Burris are about as far up the scale as I go), I do so because I want to enjoy using them. They aren't going on a gun that sits in the safe while I shoot the rimfires a few thousand rounds/year.
 
if you prowl flea markets,garage sales and small gun shows you will come upon a used leupold at a good price(even if abused) it will be ok as leupold will either fix it or replace it free.

Ebay, Craigslist etc. - modern day flea markets! Check them out.
 
I still have a few cheap scopes with a permanent address but far fewer than I started with.

Last year I replaced a $50 Bushnell Sportview 4X AO. After 20 years of faithful service, this $50 scope gave up the ghost with turrets that shifted.

4 years ago I removed a $75 Tasco World Class from my -06 after 19 years replacing it with a $500 scope before a Canadian hunt. It now resides on a .223 TC barrel and still works fine.

I've bought 3 Simmons .22 Mag scopes for my kids' .22s and all have survived a full year of range use. Cost was $24-$30 depending on which coupon I had at the time of purchase. None of them track accurately but for set once and forget plinkers they do a decent job. I could go on but you get the picture.

If $60 were my absolute max budget I'd buy an Bushnell 4X and live with the compromises but I strongly agree that money spent on optics is better spent on better optics. Nikon, Weaver or Vortex won't break most folks and are leaps ahead of most other budget scopes.
 
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