Are Gun Forums becoming P.C...

[ZeSpectre]

There will always be people who say "this is how people act, how do we work with that" and there will always be people who say "this is how people -should- act how do we force compliance".

 

[JohnBT]

"We all talk with "slang" and curse words occasionally, but on the public forums where children and women are, I believe we should refrain."

Hey, that's just good manners and good manners have been around forever. Well, thousands of years anyway. Much longer than that 20th Century invention - Political Correctness.

I suggest that everybody who hasn't google the history of political correctness. It's pretty well documented and defined.

John

 

[22-rimfire]

I have no idea what PC means relative to guns or gun forums. Somebody would have to explain that to me relative to THR.

 

[ilbob]

I think it is a trend that is maybe inevitable. As the boards get more and more participants, there is a perceived need by the owner(s) to "clean" things up.

Its one thing when it is 100 guys yakking to each other, sort of like guys at a construction site might act. But when a site gets really popular, it gets to be more like a public meeting, and some level of decorum is in order.

 

[Hawk]

I have no idea what PC means relative to guns or gun forums. Somebody would have to explain that to me relative to THR.

I'm not the expert on such matters (voted 'no, not really') but as JohnBT points out there's a considerable body of work on the topic.

Little bit here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_correctness

I'd tend to think it's slippery trying to apply some of the various definitions to a gun forum but two seem to work:
1. inoffensive.
2. party line.

I wasn't able to come up with examples of where maverick views are pushed into a "party line" - "accidental discharge" might be one but it's admittedly trivial - it does seem to be able to offend some more than one would guess.

To the extent that "inoffensive" means "polite" it would be hard to object to - this isn't a men's club anymore. At least we hope it's not.

 

[Elza]

I generally find it depends more upon who is talking than what is being said. Some people are created more equal than others in any aspect of life you can name.

 

[Gunnerpalace]

Haven't been on Arfcom lately have you?

Big +1 THR is the like the smoking room on the Titanic, sit down relax and enjoy the stead stream of facts and firearms knowledge,

Arfcom is more akin to a wild west bar, GD in the biggest way,

That being said I think this has to do with the political threads yes it is a banned topic here but even though there is a link nobody likes to go to APS.
I have an account there but I just don't think of going over there (I go to Arfcom for political news anyway) if it is not allowed the mods have to enforce it.

Is THR becoming PC well... No, not yet I can still can a PSL a Dragunov and not get banned, so that's my .021/2 cents.

 

[qdemn7]

I have no idea what PC means relative to guns or gun forums. Somebody would have to explain that to me relative to THR.

I'll explain it with a question. "Where is the forum for political debate and discussion on this website?

 

[WayneConrad]

THR is on a PR mission. It's not "PC" to insist that we act like it.

 

[ConstitutionCowboy]

I see many attempts to make these sites PC by those who get all bent out of shape any time someone espouses the truth about, and the all encompassing breadth of the Second Amendment's protection of our right to bear and keep arms. You hear, "Don't say that! You'll make all of us look like gun nuts!"

Idiots! "Gun nuts" IS a PC term! It's the politically correct term the press and the left uses to describe anyone who owns, and/or carries, and/or espouses the benefits of our right to keep and bear arms and the true nature of the Second Amendment.

Truth be told about the Second Amendment is that it protects the most benign and innocuous right we have! Owned and holstered arms are of no danger to anyone. Period.

Woody

 

[ilbob]

That being said I think this has to do with the political threads yes it is a banned topic here but even though there is a link nobody likes to go to APS.

While APS allows for posts in areas that THR does not, IMO it is more PC than THR and the mods (at least one of them) are quicker to pull the trigger on a thread.

 

[Thumper_6119]

Depends totally on the forum. Mainly the owner, admins, and staff's direction. Some are REALLY getting PC, while others are doing what they've always done, business as usual with no regards to political/social climate.

 

[mike7465]

I think that this one is. Half the time I can't decide if this place is filled with anti's or if people are trolling.
Anti open cary.
Never print with a firearm.
Concealed means concealed.
These are all things I read here often, and I think they are bad...

 

[JohnBT]

"I'll explain it with a question. "Where is the forum for political debate and discussion on this website?"

This is a site devoted to guns and gun ownership. How much clearer can it be stated?

Here is the first line of the Forum Rules:

"Welcome to The High Road, an online discussion board dedicated to the discussion and advancement of responsible firearms ownership."

Politics, cooking, religion, knitting and scuba diving are well represented on the www. This is a gun board.

John

 

[JohnBT]

"I think that this one is. Half the time I can't decide if this place is filled with anti's or if people are trolling.
Anti open cary.
Never print with a firearm.
Concealed means concealed.
These are all things I read here often, and I think they are bad..."

1. I don't want anyone to know I am armed. No open carry for me. Well, maybe hunting. I don't advertise that I have something worth stealing by wearing a $1000 watch or a $1000 gun on my belt.
2. I don't want anyone to know I am armed. No printing.
3. Repeat after me... concealed means concealed.

John
NRA Patron...not an anti.

 

[GEM]

Free market. If you don't like the show, don't go.

I prefer a forum that has a reasonable level of expertise, minimal childish bloodlust-cursing-sex, looney conspiracies, various hater of various groups, etc.

It's a gun forum of class. If that's not for you - the Internet is a wide place.

 

[ilbob]

I prefer a forum that has a reasonable level of expertise, minimal childish bloodlust-cursing-sex, looney conspiracies, various hater of various groups, etc.

Sometimes the looneys are good for a laugh, but too much of it gets old real fast. Anytime I see inforwars.com cited as a source I know it is time to move on to other posts. I am amazed at how many posts on other forums come right off the pages of such places.

I appreciate the guys that have expertise or experience in areas that will take the time to explain things in ways that are understandable to people without that expertise or experience.

 

[Gadget]

The proper use of language is a powerful weapon, as such it should be used with caution (think 4 rules.) I frequent this site because I appreciate the well-thought answers to the questions posted. The questions may not be well presented, but the answers are usually given by folks who have the expertise and the patience to deal with the poster's queries.

Modified 4 rules:
1. All words used will be examined.
2. Profanity or blasphemy will detract from the final impact of the statement.
3. Use of a powerful vocabulary adds to the credibility of the user.
4. Each technical community has its own language and slang.

 

[JR47]

Fairly new here, but am an Admin and Mod on other Boards. This isn't quite the PC problem that some would make it out to be. The Board has a purpose, but there will always be those either too lazy, or too dumb, and actually believe that what they have to say about any subject should be allowed.

The Admins and Mods have agreed to enforce the Rules and Regulations as posted by the owner of the Forum. We, the members, also agree to abide by them, as well.

PC is a defined term. The fact that it's been enlarged to cover whatever one needs doesn't mean that it meets that defined definition. While politics may have an impact on Gun Boards, we can see in just the responses here how some posters bring politics into every thread.

There are a lot of people who spend hours every week working at the grass-roots level to protect the RKBA. The problem with these types of post is that the laws at that level are, many times, local or state level. The responses from others, in different jurisdictions, is nearly always argumentative, and has no bearing on the laws in question. Most of us come here for information on guns, ammo, and maybe knives. Not politics.

There are Boards dedicated to such matters, unless one feels that this would make them a little fish in a big pond. There are Gun Boards that have dedicated political forums, as well. Head that way.

The idea that a concealed weapon should remain concealed is necessary in most jurisdictions today. Flashing, or printing, can result in a visit with several cops, and the loss of the CCW. Read your laws.

AD/ND? Who cares what you call it? The problem is that the bullet isn't impressed by any term.

 

[jahwarrior]

i think some have gone way overboard with political correctness, and others have not. mods will lock a thread, or delete it altogether, for something based on their opinion of what's offensive; sometimes i agree, sometimes not. i know, i know, the 1st Amendment doesn't apply to interweb forums, but it can get tiring after a bit. i personally don't care about offending people, on the 'net or in the real world. at least here, if you find something you don't like, you can log off.

 

[scrat]

It depends on where you are at on the forums. if you hang out here in the general forum then it will seem that way. but if you hang out in the rifle section, the handgun section, the reloading section. Then the answer is now. Though politcal conversations come up from time to time. At THR we try to avoid them. Even topics like this may deserve the ban. (close the thread). Why because its not THR. The general forum is to be used to talk about guns in general. Not anything politcal. On the top right of this screen is a link it says APS. When you click that it will direct you to a sister forum where you can talk politics and aske people if they think gun forums are going political. When i log on to this part of the site i expect to see things about guns not politcs or off topic discussions. These are the rules you all agreed on when you first signed up to be a member. When all this stuff goes away. We have a gun forum. Dedicated to guns and talking about them, helping people with them new and old. This is what THR is

 

[Soybomb]

There's plenty of room on the internet for everyone. I like THR because I view it as a generally civil and polite forum. Racism, bigotry, and name calling aren't allowed. If you're into that sort of thing though you'll have no problem finding gun forums with that stuff.

 

[gizamo]

Everyone,

This discussion is about the gun boards in general. None specific, and certainly not about this forum in particular. I started this thread to see if there were opinions about the general direction guns boards are headed in, and if that is a reacition to the PC culture in this country....

Evidently, based on the poll ~ there are a majority of users on this site that believe there is a change...Currently as I post this 52% with just 12 % thinking it is status quo......

Giz

 

[blackcash88]

It all started with my sissy-pants nanny filter.

 

[DocCas]

Are some gun forums overly PC? Yes. Some are downright censorious! I tend to avoid those forums. But we must all remember that when we are here we are guests in someone else's forum. When you are a guest in my home I expect you to keep your muddy shoes off the furniture. The same is true here. We agreed to the rules when we signed up and we are all aware this is a moderated forum. If we obey the rules there will be no problem. If we break the rules we will have created our own problems.

jakemccoy said:

If you really want to be annoyed, spend some time over at Calccw.com and Calguns.net. You're pretty much a nobody over at Calccw.com unless you have a California CCW permit.

I have a California CCW license (in San Diego County, no less) and I am still a nobody over at Calccw.com!

That basically means you happen to live in a rare county where the sheriff has a basic understanding of the Second Amendment. However, the CCW permit holders over at Calccw.com seem to think they're automatically more law-abiding and more knowledgeable than you. They're more annoying than that idiot you knew in college who knows he'll be running his daddy's company when he graduates. Anyway, after you become a somebody with your CCW permit, you’ll be allowed to talk without the resident stalker overanalyzing your every post and ruining your experience.

Oh no, he will still stalk you. He is a self-appointed SME on every subject you can think of!

Just make sure to bow down to the leaders of the website clique. Otherwise, you'll get beat down pretty quickly by the commanding mall ninja and his understudies. Yeah, Calccw.com, you guys can do a lot better.

Yes, but there are also some really good people on that forum. I put up with the jerks to have access to the good people. Kind of like real life.