Are the guns worth the trouble?

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Quite I aside from gun ownership I am also a die hard boxing fan. Nearly all the top boxers in the world fight on premium cable channels or Pay Per View, and live tickets can run over a thousand dollars.

Shooting, hunting, and gun ownership in general, are cheaper than following boxing. Shooting, like fishing, gives me a reason to get outdoors and do something, and that's good for me. In addition, if you try to do harm to me or mine, you will find yourself looking at the business end of a .44 magnum.

All in all, I think the benefits out weigh the costs. In my opinion, that's obvious.
 
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Gun ownership is a LOT of responsibility and expense. There are safes and locks and ammo and gear and cleaning supplies and bags and holsters and belts and range fees to worry about.

Yes, but what does that get you? A life insurance policy that actually ENSURES your life. I don't have locks on my guns, but the safe I do think is a good thing (or at least a good hiding place for your HD gun, so someone doesn't just find it in the first desk drawer they open when they break in). The cleaning supplies aren't expensive, you can use other bags, and the price of holsters, belts, and range fees just plays into it.

There are different laws in every jurisdiction that we must consider when moving around the country, (such as for a shooting event). And those in the shooting community who CCW must be ever-vigilant about the laws surrounding said activity, including the nature of every property they enter. Does it serve alcohol? How much alcohol does it serve? Does a school own the property? Is it a state or Federal park? Is it a "Federal facility"?

You don't have to do competitions to be a gun enthusiast - I don't. You also don't need to remember every law, but just look up the laws in places you plan to visit. Unless you go on vacation to a different place every week, chances are you'll be find without too much trouble. After all, when you go out of town, you want to look up information about the place you're going anyway - lodging, food, recreation, etc. It's just one extra thing to look up.

Also, there's the issue of information control. Who knows I own guns? Can I trust that person today? Can I trust him tomorrow? Who knows when I'm home and when I'm not? Am I required to inform that officer I'm carrying? Even if not, should I out of courtesy?

My personal opinion on this is that people know I have guns, but they don't have access to them. If someone breaks in while I'm home, then I can get to a gun and shoot them, but they can't easily get to one and use it on me. If they brought theirs, that is irrelevant to whether or not they will use my gun. If I am not home, and someone breaks in, then my guns are insured, and I can replace them. At that point, it's just like my computers and...OK, I don't have other valuables, but other people have expensive stuff (jewelry, collectibles, etc) that may be nabbed, it's no different.

As to the officer...I'm not too sure.

And then there's the act of buying the gun itself: licensing, permits, paperwork, NICS checks, expense, waiting periods (in some states).

The permit is fairly easy to get where I live, and once you have it you don't have to worry for 5 years. If you have a permit, you walk in, fill out the paper work, wait 15 minutes, and walk out with your gun. It's just like buying a cell phone and getting a contract. Yeah, they're expensive...but so are many other hobbies.

It all seems like a lot of work and money that goes into acquiring and owning an inanimate object that is designed purely to make noise and throw lead really fast.

That's like saying a car is designed to make four objects spin. Guns may be designed for different things, but mine are bought with the intention of potentially using them for self-defense some day. It did not require a lot of work, and yeah it required money - but I will gladly pay $600 for something that will potentially save my life some day.
 
The only trouble I have is that I don't have enough money for all the things I want, now I want a pistol caliber AR 15 but I'm sure that will change without buying something....again.
 
Its well worth the gripes and complaints my wife gives me of the time and money I spend on my hobby. If you ask me I think Reality and Judging contest TV shows are worthless!! But thats another arguement.
 
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Simply put, to attain and maintain anything of value takes effort and work. If it's not worthwhile, it's not worthy of my time. The benefit of ownership, concealment and use weighed against the changes that I had to accomplish in order to attain that benefit is worth the effort that I put into practicing that activity. I feel that I have a greater capacity now for self protection, not to mention the other benefits of ownership, than I have ever had. And to me, as I grow in age, that benefit outweighs the risks and hassles of ownership.
 
You could say the same about car ownership. Owning a business.
Certain requirements go along with a lot of things.
 
Like anything else guns have a certain amount of cost,but they require a whole lot less trouble and expense than many other things.
We have 3 dogs ,3 cats,2 horses ,1 donkey, and a bunch of chickens all of which need constant care and feeding.
The garden, vehicles,bass boat,mowers and tractor all require more effort at upkeep than guns as well as greater cost. My wife and I have asked ourselves many times if we would be better off without all of the "stuff", and every time, we reach the conclusion that the alternative is to move to a boring neighborhood with a HOA and watch tv. No thanks.
Guns are worth it for many reasons most of which others have mentioned here, but in terms of upkeep they are a bargain compared to practically everything else in my life.
 
I believe owning one or more guns is an act of responsible citizenship that should be done on principle.

That said, there is no doubt a point of diminishing returns, beyond which the added benefit of "one more" is less than the added cost. I haven't reached that point yet and every addition is "worth it" until that point is reached.


(Ha! Nice note on which to hit my 3,000th post! Thanks for asking ...)
 
Not having to defend them against the anti-gun public would tend to keep my blood pressure a lot lower. Not having to clean them anymore would be a delight. No more worry about theft of my prize posessions would be a real plus, not to mention the lack of expense of new guns, ammunition, optics, reloading supplies, etc. And decent storage of all the above is another expense and kind of a pain.

So, logically, is it really worth it?

Yes.
 
Yeah, I wonder. I pull my guns out and rub them down w/a silicon cloth about once a month. It takes maybe half an hour.

I wonder, what's the use?

But then I keep buying guns. Right now I'm bidding on a Browning falling block in 22 hornet.

Go figure.
 
Gun ownership calls for responsibility; this is not responsibility.

Skribs:
If I am not home, and someone breaks in, then my guns are insured, and I can replace them. At that point, it's just like my computers and...OK, I don't have other valuables, but other people have expensive stuff (jewelry, collectibles, etc) that may be nabbed, it's no different.

First of all, "Skribs", in fairness I must disclose that I often find my opinions at odds with yours, especially on matters of open- vs concealed carry. I think you often rationalize your positions without considering the larger ramifications. But this one particularly irks me.

If to you there's "no difference" between your guns being stolen and other valuables (computers, jewelry, collectibles) being stolen, please consider this:
How likely is it that your computers, jewelry or collectibles, in the hands of a thief or his cohorts, would be used to rob, intimidate, kill or injure innocent people?

Or are guns not worth the extra precautions one must take to safeguard them?
 
Naw. Having TOO MANY guns can be a problem. For practical purposes, anything over three is too many. I have a problem.
 
And then there's the act of buying the gun itself: licensing, permits, paperwork, NICS checks, expense, waiting periods (in some states).

Pick out a gun on the rack, spend ten minutes browsing catalogs while the NICS check goes through, pay the man at the counter, walk out.

I love Tennessee. :D
 
I live in AZ....

I go to CA a LOT as most of my family and friends are in CA....

I'm ~ 2 miles as the crow fly from the AZ CA border....

I go to NV ~ 5 times a year... and I have to drive through CA to get to NV from where I live in AZ

I do think its a hassle.... BUT mainly because CA throws a monkey wrench into things.

If CA would honor my AZ CCW permit things would ge a lot easier.
 
I think I understand the question.

Thoreau penned that "If a man builds a barn, then the barn becomes his prison." So if I may paraphrase your question in this light, "Are you a slave to your possessions (guns)?" Some examples: The man who owns a boat, several cars, a house, and maybe motorcycle or three. Does he spend more time maintaining them that enjoying them? What about the feller who has a second (vacation) home that he is compelled to visit on his vacation only to wind up performing maintenance chores. It hardly makes sense.

But guns are different. Assuming you have a secure place to stow them, they require hardly any maintenance, and when they do, usually I find the maintenance pleasurable and relaxing, in fact, I enjoy fixing up a "junk" gun as well as restoring a relic. It's different than changing the muffler on the family station wagon. Add to that the pleasure derived from hunting and target shooting, not to mention their utilitarian value as a defense tool, and ownership becomes a pleasure. The more the merrier!
 
I can't help but compare gun ownership to my other hobbies.

Motorcycles: I started building hot rod motorcycles when I was about 13 years old. I'm 54 now and recently had to give up riding, so I sold the last of my bikes. I probably spent $500K or more on motorcycles over the years, but I have nothing to show for it except a bunch of pictures. Was it worth it? HELL YA!!!

Boxing Fan: I pay for two premium cable channels, and buy tons of PPV shows that range from $40-$60 dollars each. Tickets for live shows, travel expenses, et, et. This is a sport a lot of people don't understand, but prizefighters are like the gladiators of old. They lay their lives on the line for our entertainment. It's an expensive sport to follow, but I get to watch the greatest athletes in the world put everything on the line to prove their supremacy.

Fishing: I happen to live in an area where there is quite a bit of good fishing within a 100 mile radius, and I prefer to fish for bass, trout, and panfish, so I only need a small boat. This is probably my cheapest hobby.

Firearms: First off, I know from personal experience that a nice gun collection can save your butt if your finances go south on ya for some reason. I also know that gun ownership is only as expensive as I want it to be. For example, you can buy a pretty good .223 for under $300 dollars, and you can buy factory ammo in bulk for around 7 cents per round! I don't have to shoot up boxes and boxes of 44 mag ammo!

All in all, gun ownership requires about the same time, money, and effort as my other hobbies. My hobbies are an intrinsic part of who I am. Without them I would be someone else. Someone who would be a complete stranger to my wife, my loved ones, and myself.
 
I lived in NJ for 4 years, and I can tell you with certainty that owning firearms in the garden state is a lot of "trouble". From lengthy wait times for permits and purchase cards, to public scrutiny of you as a gun owner, rediculous confounding laws that basically make any gun owner a criminal, to the lack of decent ranges and places to shoot...it was definitely a pita. NJ hunters and shooters have to be the most dedicated and hardcore in the country.
 
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