Are the new S&W Sigmas any good?

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Ok I have read a few reviews online on S&W's Sigma line. I remember when they first came out everybody was saying they were crap, picky about ammo, etc. New the few reviews I have read are saying the newer Sigmas don't have the problems as the old ones. That they are very releable.

I'm asking because I've seen them on gunsamerica for less then $300. Too good to be true, or one of the best handguns you can get for the price?

-Bill
 
I'd say more of the latter than the former . They can be had for $250 here and that's a great deal for a new pistol if one needs a reliable home defense pistol and range plinker . I've put several hundred rounds through a friends SW40P with nary a glitch . The trigger isn't the greatest in the world , but for its purpose is fine IMO . It's easy to find faults with it compared to those costing twice as much but if one was all that I could afford , I wouldn't feel poorly armed .
 
How bad is the trigger? I'm used to shooting DA revolvers in DA mode at the range. If the Sigma line trigger pull is compareble to a DA revolver I can live with it.

-Bill
 
It's way worse than a nice DA revolver.

Put it this way- it's stiff enough to make my finger sore after 100 rounds or so.

-James
 
If I get a chance to handle one, I'll try out the trigger pull.

I'm also considering a Glock or XD.

-Bill
 
I've NEVER owned a S&W Sigma, but I can tell you I sell a lot of 'em
in both 40VE and 9VE configurations. So far, none of these has come
in for warranty repairs. We get $279 w/ten round magazines, and we
get $289 per unit with the standard capacity magazines.

Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member
 
The trigger on my 9VE sigma is very close to my 6 S&W revolvers @ 9-10lbs D/A.I found that a little lube and firing it has smoothed up the pull.First time to the range i put 300rds thru it,my trigger finger felt just fine when i was done.I now have 1800rds thru my with no FTF/FTE and it's accurate enough for a defensive pistol.
 
Sorry for responding on this one so late - I hope I caught you in time to save you from buying a piece of crap. I own the older Sigma SW40F, and it works quite well, it is reasonably accurate, and once in a while fails to feed the last round in the mag. I later bought an SW40VE without knowing what I was getting in to. As it started out, I had about a 50% misfire rate - it looked like the primer was getting hit way off center. I sent it back to Smith, and it seemed to work a little bit better in that department, even though the primer dent was still somewhat off center, but not as far as before. But the main problem now was that upon chambering a round, the slide would not go into battery - It looked like the case rim was getting on the wrong side of the extractor, so I sent it back once more and got a whole new slide/barrel assembly. Now It it would go into battery, but only after slamming it very hard with the heel of my hand - but that was will Federal ammo. With Cor-bon, I had the same problem as before. I ended up selling the gun for $240 and warned that it might not work with all brands of ammo. One other thing to note, even when the gun did fire, I couldn't hit the side of a barn - it could be due to the huge amount of slop between the slide/barrel assembly and the frame, or it could be the fact that there was .015" diametral slop in the chamber, so the round could sit in there crooked. In any case, I think that the gun was a piece of crap, and no where near built as well as its predecessor, the SW40F.
 
The old rep that Sigmas were branded with was largely undeserved. In fact I never could track down a true story that was as bad as it's internet version. :rolleyes:

Now the new ones suffer from that stigma a bit, but they function and work well too. (you can see from ABBOBERG's post how easily negatives can color an issue, but remember ALL manufacturer's make a bad gun now and then - ALL of 'em, sorry it seems you got one AB...)

Still the Sigma is well worth the price asked.
 
Well in same price range is the Ruger P series. I may get one of those instead.

-Bill
 
Our local sheriff's department carries alot of the Sigmas. I have been to the range on many occassions with them and have seen very few problems out of them. Other than the pretty lousy trigger they fed everything okay and accuracy was more than acceptable for a service pistol. For an inexpensive gun they are hard to beat, though I do not own these are only my range observations.
 
Cross reference:

http://www.gunblast.com/SWSigma9.htm

I'd like to check out a 9mm version. According to the gunshops in Jax (AKA Jacksonville, FL or Cowford according to the Regulators) "we got one in and sold it" seems to be the response. I suspect more profits come from more expensive guns, even if they sit on shelves.

Does anyone know how much the shop has tied up in shelf guns? Are they owned by the mfgs?

Is this anything like the car business?

Geoff
Who is a curious fellow. :cool:
 
Our dept got Sigmas when they came out. Most went back to Smith at least twice. They jammed, failed to extract, and failed to fire. If kept immaculately clean they would work about 95%. Smith replaced them all and the Boss traded them for Glocks. Just the facts. I personally wouldn't own one at any price if I was trusting it with my life. :( -Don
 
I suspect more profits come from more expensive guns, even if they sit on shelves.

Does anyone know how much the shop has tied up in shelf guns? Are they owned by the mfgs?

a shop may make more profit on a more expensive gun, however a shop also wants a stable they sell all the time and brings in a dependable income.

This is probley why most shops carry Hi-Points, They sell fast.

-Bill
 
I think I'll wait until I have a chance to handle/shoot one. Then I decide.

-Bill
 
I have a SW9VE and I've put around 700 rounds through it without any issues. Since it's my first gun I don't have much to compare it to with regards to the trigger, but it did seem rough at first but has smoothed out with use. For my first gun I'm very happy with it.
 
I used to own a S&W Sigma in .40s&w and all I can say is do some hadeling of one first, maybe even shoot one at the range. Personally this was supposed to be my Wife's gun, but the trigger pull and sloppiness of the slide was too much for us. For some strange reason I just don't like a pistol where I can see a huge gap between the slide and frame. So that pistol is no longer with us, but oh well I'm not losing sleep over it if you know what I mean.
 
thanks guys. Well this is a gunshow this weekend and I want to take a look around.

-Bill
 
A Constable friend of mine bought a Sigma .40 (not sure which model but had a gray frame) and it shoots quite well.He and a dozen other Constables got a group buy put together and they all like them.I shot it and didn't experience any problems with it.If I found one for the right price I might even buy one just for fun.tom. :)
 
I used to have an SW40VE in stainless. I initially had to send it in for warranty work because of failure to feeds. After the warranty work (had it back within a week) it worked fine. It was pretty accurate too but the trigger was tough like everyone has said.

One of the gun rags actually has a Sigma review in it this month. Of course you can't tell anything from their reviews because every gun they review is the best one ever. They talked about the 11 to 12 lb trigger in the positive.

One interesting thing though. They said in that article that all the machinery that the Sigmas are made on was completely replaced with new and different machinery at some point and that worked out most of the kinks. The way they talked made me think this was after they started making the VEs so just being a VE doesn't mean it's one of the new and supposedly more reliable ones. That's how I understoodd it but I could be wrong.

brad cook
 
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