Are U concerned about posting?

[TAB]

I don't post up stuff that might come back to bite me in the butt.

I have little doubt that the ATF scans gun forums every once in awhile looking for people that are breaking the law.

Moral of the story is, don't break the law, if you are breaking the law, don't post it on the intardweb.

 

[Kragax]

I give out only what information I need to. Im sure Im on a list as I write my elected representitives about 2nd amendment issues quite a bit. But Im not a criminial, just hope they don't make me one.

 

[nwilliams]

Posting pictures of what guns I own doesn't bother me, however I try to be careful about how much personal information gets posted.

As for the Big Brother theory that posting and talking about what guns I own is a bad idea, well I'm just not that paranoid about such things. If the government wants to know what guns I own it would be easy enough for them to find out without having to scour the internet forums Plus I'm not doing anything illegal so what do I have to hide?

 

[sernv99]

I KNOW what I'm talking about. I know someone who works for the NSA quite well. If you think they don't know what we talk about and if you think they don't see us as possible terrorists you've got your head in the sand my friends.

Yeah you "know someone" who works at NSA. That's where your knowledge ends. Stop watching "Enemy of the State" and reading conspiracy theories. You don't know jack. A NSA employee is going to risk imprisonment, a hefty fine, and a ruined career, by relaying "classified info" to some avergage Joe like yourself?


I can list sources that have reported on the NSA monitoring our phone calls for decades if anyone is interested. If you think they monitor phone calls but not web sites you're not thinking.

yeah, list those media sources, stuff that has been already dished out in congressional hearings and in the news. What, you have "inside" sources in the NSA that give you classified info on their operations? Yeah you might want to re-think that. Again, you = avergage Joe. Another conspiracy theorist who watches too many spy thrillers and reads too many anti-gov't blogs.

 

[Rembrandt]

If the long arm of the Government were so effective.....wouldn't they have caught all the tax cheaters in the Obama administration and Congress?

 

[kanook]

I am not worried at all cause I wear a tin foil hat all day. I type and don't speak so the bugs that the gov. put in my house (the tv is full of them) so they can't hear what I'm saying. and that guy that has been working on that power pole for the last month (seems like he would have it fixed now) just works slow

 

[Titan6]

I can't stop laughing thinking about the irony of a government conspiracy theorist posting on line....

 

[Sav .250]

On #1........... Think twice and spell it correctly.

On#2............. This day in age, you never know.

 

[Dark Skies]

sernv99 - although he comes across as a tin hatter it doesn't make the facts any the less true. In the UK the GCHQ scans all our emails and phone calls. http://www.gchq.gov.uk/about_us/index.html

Same goes for RAF menwith Hill, a US-run listening station in Yorkshire.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menwith_Hill

The Brits are the most spied upon nation on earth - by their own government (comprised mainly of commies and Marxists). So we do tend to keep our postings fairly clipped and not incriminating.

 

[Zach S]

Yes. There are things I dont mention (address, phone number, etc), but as far as trying to be a man of mystery, I don't bother. There are a few things from my youthful stupidity I don't mention, but I don't think that's out of the ordinary.

Most of my posts are "cleaned up" quite a bit, or I simply hit the back button instead of "submit reply." But that isn't just here, but at the car boards I frequent as well. I work graveyard shift, and I'm normally online after work. And I tend to ramble when I'm tired. Like now. Sorry.

As for someone watching, no. Well, maybe. I would imagine if there was, he or she has moved onto something productive by now. Someone working for the brady bunch probably looks in every now an then, but are likely scared away by our logic.

 

[MachIVshooter]

(1) there is a possibility that statements made (e.g., "if someone comes into my yard he won't live...") may be used to establish state of mind

I wouldn't be too concerned about that. The whole "beyond a reasonable doubt" bit. Imagine if you will- Defense lawyer: "Mr. Prosecutor, can you prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that my client typed the words on that internet post?". Any answer but "No" would make a mockery of the court. Internet message board postings amount to hearsay at best.

Now, as for putting tons of personal information out there along with photo's and lists of your collection, I would consider it unwise. Not because the government is watching and not because "they" may one day outlaw what you have, but because you're advertising one of the most profitable theft items out there along with a location and, if the criminal pays enough attention, a schedule and other details that would allow him to operate with relative impunity.

I would say you're fine to post all the pictures and descriptions of weapons you like, but be very careful not to give up identifying information aqbout yourself and family members. I don't so much mean photo's of faces, but more like be careful of such things as the license plates on your cars showing up; While finding out who someone is from there internet postings alone is no easy task, getting that info from the DMV is not difficult at all.

 

[CoRoMo]

Would you be curious to know...

• how many times/how often the ATF contacts THR webmaster(s) for any reason
• how many times THR has been required to provide information to LE
• how many times evidence from THR has been used in any manner

Conspiracy and paranoia aside, I've often wondered how actively the different LE agencies might pursue stuff posted on sites like this, and how cooperative these sites are when simply asked for information as opposed to cooperating with an issued warrant.

I know, I know... the tin needs to be reinforced a bit. Just wondering. It'd be alarming to find out that there is a filing cabinet somewhere with a CoRoMo folder filed in the 'C' drawer.

 

[MarineOne]

I don't go out of my way to post dumb stuff on the internet, although I have been known to be opinionated and not afraid to back it up with facts.




Kris

 

[Zundfolge]

If fear of government watching you causes you to shut up its no different than if the government outlaws free speech.

If things get so bad in this country that we need to worry about Big Brother watching us all on a web forum then its time to hit the reset button.

 

[DHJenkins]

Couldn't care less. It's the internet. It's full of BS and everyone knows it.

 

[Frank Ettin]

...The whole "beyond a reasonable doubt" bit....

Evidence from the Internet can frequently be authenticated and is used all the time especially in child pornography, fraud, and terrorism cases. Police, investigators and lawyers take classes in finding, preserving, authenticating and using evidence from the Internet.

...Internet message board postings amount to hearsay at best...

Hearsy is frequently admissible. See, for example, Article VIII of the Federal Rules of Evidence (http://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/fre/rules.htm and http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Federal_Rules_of_Evidence/Hearsay). Similar rules apply under state laws.

 

[crebralfix]

Of course not.

 

[Walkalong]

Nope. We can't go hide. We must stand in the open and be counted.

If fear of government watching you causes you to shut up its no different than if the government outlaws free speech.

Yep

 

[Hungry Seagull]

No problems here.

Nope. Not too much.

In fact after the ribbing I recieved with a early video about how much I flinched when racking my own shells I thought about it and learned to shoot better thanks..

 

[Pistol Toter]

Simply,
YES !! and YES !!
I trust very few in this day and age.

 

[Snagglepuss]

Nope, not one bit.

 

[Kleanbore]

The whole "beyond a reasonable doubt" bit. Imagine if you will- Defense lawyer: "Mr. Prosecutor, can you prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that my client typed the words on that internet post?". Any answer but "No" would make a mockery of the court. Internet message board postings amount to hearsay at best.

There has been an extensive this on the forum fairly recently, but I don't have time to find it for you.

Based on posts from trial attorneys and law enforcement proffessionals, I'm afraid you are mistaken. Their opinions are based not on speculation but on actual outcomes and on what they do for a living. Search for it.

And by the way, I understand that hearsay is in many cases admissible.

Whoops--I see that Fiddletown has also responded.

Conspiracy and paranoia aside, I've often wondered how actively the different LE agencies might pursue stuff posted on sites like this, and how cooperative these sites are when simply asked for information as opposed to cooperating with an issued warrant.

I believe it's the subpoena you have to worry about regarding potentially damaging evidence.

 

[JohnBT]

If NSA isn't monitoring every phone call and internet post then what in the heck are we paying all of the those billions for every year?

I demand value for my money.

John

 

[KarenTOC]

I'm not terribly worried. In fact, I'm more concerned about grammar and spelling and sounding like the stupid, incompetent newbie I am than in being monitored by any government agency or potential employer. I have probably typed twice as many posts as I've actually submitted. I chicken out at the last minute and erase rather than submit. (Right now I'm debating whether or not to submit this one lol.)

What's that old saying? Oh yeah..."Better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt."

 

[JohnBT]

I do the same thing; delete maybe 1 out of 3. Some of them have been quite lengthy, too.

John