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Are Wal-mart guns made cheap

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by nekwah, Jan 2, 2009.

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  1. nekwah

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    I have relatives who own a gun shop and they say that with the specs on guns that Wal-mart isnt allowed to cheapen the guns at all. Other people say if you pick up a gun in wal-mart it will be lighter than a gun from Cabelas or somewhere. Ive seen lots of controversey with nobody showing any real evidence. Thought i would see what you guys think.
     
  2. MikePGS

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    I don't see why they would go and make an entirely different batch of guns with different specs just for Wal-mart. I mean I know they're a huge chain but making separate runs would probably negate any benefits they would get from selling to such a huge distributor.
     
  3. Jorg Nysgerrig

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    Is this the same person who told you the 870 was discontinued?

    As far as the Walmart quality question, it has come up several times. You should try searching on it.
     
  4. ljnowell

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    No. Nope. Nadda. They are the same guns. I dont think any manufacturer would want thier name stamped on inferior products, no matter where they are sold. Just some anti-Wal Mart talk. Not that there arent lots of reasons for it. When it comes down to it though, most of us couldnt afford to live the way we do without wal mart.
     
  5. matrem

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    "No. Nope. Nadda. They are the same guns."
    Hmmmm..Are you positive?
    I'm aware of(for starters) one "wal-mart exclusive" contract with a major manufacturer.
    I know that this subject has been "beaten to death",so I'll not elaborate any farther..Just make sure you do your "homework" before buying!
     
  6. nekwah

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    Not the same person as the 870 that was a rumor going around. This is something ive discussed a long time. I actually did search it but nothing came up but i might not of used the right keywords.
     
  7. SMMAssociates

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    No accusing WalMart, but it has long been customary for some of the big box stores to offer custom versions of other products - TV's, fridges, etc., with different specs that what might be the same item elsewhere.

    Back during the CB craze (around 1975), I ran across a very high quality radio made by E.F. Johnson for sale under their own name, and another look-alike that one of the stores was selling (J.C. Penney, I think) that was marked with Johnson's name, etc., but internally appeared to have been assembled by putting the necessary components into a bag and tossing it about....

    From personal experience, the former day job once contracted with K-Mart to make a simple plastic widget that let you carry more than one wire coat hanger in your hand - like while travelling. Working out their shipping arrangements alone was like shooting at a rolling donut with a bow & arrow. Every time I got the latest requirement set, they wanted something else. I wasn't involved in production, though....

    Whether they'd do this with guns, I don't know. It was common for big name retailers (think Abercrombie & Fitch) to market their own house-brand guns in the 20th Century (maybe before), and these were made all over the place, but I'm sure some came from major manufacturers like Purdy.... How close to specs, though, I don't know....

    I'd call this plausible, although I would expect model number variations and other such "well, it wasn't THIS one" weaseling, as well as "house" names....

    Short answer is to look at the thing....

    Regards,
     
  8. RockyMtnTactical

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    Nothing you buy at Wal-Mart is any different than what you get anywhere else. Are your Corn Flakes from Wal-Mart just General Mills rejects? Are the movies and video games at Wal-Mart produced on lower quality discs?

    Guns at Wal-Mart are the same as anywhere else. I am not sure why these kinds of rumors are so prevalent but it comes up ALL THE TIME. Quite ridiculous.
     
  9. crushbup

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    IIRC, the 10/22 is made in a "Wal-Mart edition." Instead of being lower quality, they are just different barrel lengths and stocks. Wal-Mart gets 'em cheap because they buy 'em by the ton.
     
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    Do you have a reference of some sort?
     
  11. ljnowell

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    Yes, I am. They do not make identical models of the same gun to cheaper specs for walmart. Thats ridiculous. They may package and item different, meaning set up a 22lr with a certain scope for example, offered at a certain price. But they are not intentionaly going to make their products inferior to sell at wal mart. They still have to warranty the stuff remember?
     
  12. kershner13

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    AS a walmart associate I can say NO we get the same firearms as cabelas and any other store. However walmart has had special walmart only firearms such as the Ruger 10/22 with a longer barrel and walnut stock. but when a walmart store places an order for a certain firearm it comes from the same factory witht he same performance standards as any other store. the reason this comes up is because walmart buys in bulk, and gets a better price. therefore when "JOE" sees the same gun for a lot less at walmart he thinks there is a problem. hope this clears up for some of you.
     
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    Same guns. Wally just get's better pricing. How many 10/22's does your dealer buy? How many come form a distributor (middleman)? How many does Wally buy?

    YOu get a better deal when you buy 50000 instead of 50 ;)
     
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    As kershner said, models of the same model # are the exact same. BUT some models aren't the exact same.. they sell Savages without the accutrigger that I haven't seen anywhere else. (and no, they weren't stevens, they were savages.)
     
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    I know that with winchester white box 9 mm by UZI function just fine. I also know that with winchester white box 9 mm from wal mart it does not cycle. I'm sure that wal mart sell a cheap product at cheap prices. I (imho) think wal mart products are crap. I sure as hell wouldn't trust my life on wal mart ammo or guns. I also will not shop there because they come into a community and drive all the local business' to close. I will not support them with my hard earn dollar.:cuss:
     
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    I work at a distribution center for Wal Mart, the guns Wal Mart sells are just as top line as the ones at any gun shop, they are bought from same place, same time same quality. Anyone who tells you wal mart guns are rejects is a fn reject know it all that dont know ****. Some people just need to get a life, theres alot of people that dont like Wal mart so they spread rumors. They are not true.
     
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    Oh, and the reason their guns and ammo is soo much cheaper (as a FFL holder i can not buy guns at dealer price for what Wal mart sells them for) is because they buy in such bulk, and even when they special order a weapon for you it still carries over.
     
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    Yes, companies are going to spend the money on extra equipment to make crappy guns which will only be sold at wal mart.:banghead:
     
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    The guns you get at Walmart are the same specs as getting them from gun stores.. get a Savage 12FV at Walmart, same gun...
     
  20. KenInColo

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    I know that Wal-Mart has the upper hand w/every one of it's suppliers and thus dictates the terms they want. Wal-Mart to it's suppliers: "It's our way or the highway." e.g. Rubbermaid; Wal-Mart ran them right out of business.
     
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    I just wished Walmart sold 1911's.:(
     
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    I bought a Colt pistol at Walmart many years ago and think it is the same quality as a Colt sold anywhere else. At the same time the same pistol was available at a gun store on the wrong side of a state line (for me) for $20 less. Price wasn't the issue on this, it was where I could purchase.

    While I don't know if it is still true (I have been told the FTC has stopped the practice) I know Walmart in times past has bought the rights to some major US brand names and had the products manufactured overseas. I got this from a few different people I have known that were disgusted the marketing departments of their companies had sold the companies' trademarks.

    It also used to be common practice (I've been out of retail for about 12 years) for companies to manufacture "mass marketers" versions of many products. They wouldn't make a run for Walmart, but they would make a run for Walmart, K-Mart, Sports Authority, Cabela's, etc combined and not have it available to smaller retailers. As always Buyer Beware and do your homework.
     
  23. crazy-mp

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    We may never know the truth if Wally World does sell guns cheaper because they buy in bulk or if they have "special runs".

    1. Yes they buy ammo by the train car load and guns too

    2. Wal-Mart dictates how much they will pay for a product.

    If a 10/22 cost you 185.00 to produce (only a estimate DO NOT QUOTE ME) and Wal-Mart tells you they will take 75,000 a year for 5 years but they are only going to pay you 186.25 a piece, what are you going to do? Plastic here, cut back on some bluing there, all of a sudden you are making a 3 dollar profit instead of a 1.25 profit.

    Dose that seem a bit more realistic?

    Just my two cents...
     
  24. crushbup

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    Well, it turned out to be me making up memories. I have corrected my post; to reiterate, the rifles are only different in barrel length and the type of stock (no barrel band)
     
  25. Big Bill

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    There are some Savage models without the Accu-Trigger. WalMart probably buys more of them because they cost less and people who shop at WalMart are looking for a bargain.
     
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