Are we crying wolf

[alwayswithmyp11]

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=6960824&page=1

It's official boys, we cried wolf, and one appeared!!!

 

[CoRoMo]

Any law that is passed can be over turned. Nothing is truly permanent.

Yeah right!
Government has never receded in size, has never given back power that it has acquired, and has never been able to operate on less tax revenue from any one year to the next.

Once it is permenant and the people get used to it, it is here to stay.

 

[Duke of Doubt]

CoRoMo: "Yeah right!Government has never receded in size, has never given back power that it has acquired, and has never been able to operate on less tax revenue from any one year to the next.Once it is permenant and the people get used to it, it is here to stay."

Deregulation of the railroad, interstate trucking, and commercial airline industries would suggest otherwise. Civilian ownership of everything from gold bullion to M1 Garand rifles, both of which used to be restricted, as well. Top federal income tax rates of 35% compared to 99% in 1917 and 97% in 1943, for another. Finally, unlimited speed in MT and 65 in most other states, rather than 55 everywhere from 1979 until 1995.

 

[Redneck with a 40]

Holder may have come out for a new AWB, but Pelosi and Reid, said this :

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news...-opposing-weapons-ban-revival-2009-02-26.html

Reid is opposed to it, said it will not be voted on in the future.

 

[NC-Mike]

No one cried wolf.

we cried out in righteous anger and indignation and it looks like they got the message.

Never be silent. That is the worst option.

I'll bet President Obama's inbox was VERY busy today.



And I'd never thought I'd say this about Pelosi, but she deserves a thank you too. Senator Reid voted against the Clinton ban. We may be in good shape.

 

[AKElroy]

That being said I can hardly imagine given the state of the economy that the Obama campaign is going to one day take away that right. Please correct me if I am wrong but to me the only things that are taxed as highly as guns and ammo is Gas, Tabacco, and Alcohol. I think the propesed AWB is horrible and I in no way agree with the proposition. Then on the other hand I can't believe that one day all firearms manufactors, ammo companies, optics companies are going to be told to shut down fire all of thier employee's and retool to make hybrid car batteries. There if nothing else is to much tax revenue to be lost.

Really? Ideology is never bound by the costs. This is a naive view. The big 3 automakers are near BK, yet the bamster is proposing a Co2 cap that will basically outlaw the internal combustion engine. People are hurting, yet that didn't stop bambam from taking another $2 Trillion from them this month alone. Productivity is crashing, yet we are extending unemployement to pay people to not work. Housing is crumbling, yet we are going to disallow a mortgage deduction for high income owners & explode interest rates by issuing massive amounts of new debt to pay for it. He and his have developed a perfect prescription for economic destruction, and you think he is worried about lost revenue from the shooting sports?

 

[Blue .45]

Reid is opposed to it, said it will not be voted on in the future.

Reid said he would not seat Roland Burris, but guess who the newest Senator from Illinois is?

 

[Redneck with a 40]

Pelosi remembers 1994, she's not going to lose the speakership over this garbage.

 

[hso]

That being said I can hardly imagine given the state of the economy that the Obama campaign is going to one day take away that right.

Lemme see if there's anything recent indicating otherwise.

Attorney General Eric Holder calls for a new gun ban. From ABC News:

“… As President Obama indicated during the campaign, there are just a few gun-related changes that we would like to make, and among them would be to reinstitute the ban on the sale of assault weapons …”

Yes, that might be it.

Time to face reality.

 

[cliffy]

Once re-introduced HYBRID Wolves take solid hold . . .

Cry Wolf will truly involve savage wolves. Wolf Lovers shall eventually realize that, if way too late. Fearless Hybrid Wolves are multiplying at alarming rates with no relief in current laws. Thus far people are relatively safe, but as deer and elk herds are decimated by wolves, our pets and we will suffice as wolf food. Our state lawmakers must awaken to this impending disaster. cliffy

 

[Eagles6]

It's for real, dude.

 

[crazy-mp]

Pelosi, Reid, Obama and Democrats in control, this truly is the perfect storm. Things look dark ahead boys and girls keep your powder dry and your sights true.




Is it a bad thing is you spend half your paycheck on ammo?

 

[NC-Mike]

Is it a bad thing is you spend half your paycheck on ammo?

That's a lot better than putting it on a credit card.

 

[deaconkharma]

sorry this is late to the game but I had to comment on something

I keep hearing he is a great speaker. Apparently I must not be inhaling the same stuff. The uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uhuh uh uh uh uh uh uh between every sentence doesn't make him sound very great to me. What I can't understand is that the man says "uh" so many times you forget what his last sentence was. He is utterly one of the worst communicators I have ever heard. To top it, between the "uh's" he says absolutely nothing. so if by saying nothing that has any backing, substance, or information to be gleaned and still be able to talk for 59 minutes about nothing substantial (59 minutes <laugh>arguably that long with all the jumping and clapping by the Democrats 60 something times) then yeah ok he's great.

Or, maybe his super powered speaking ability is what I missed when I hear he is a "great speaker". Well true,there is his ability to negatively effect the stock market, with just a mere word, by hundreds of points. Yes it's very superhero like. "Able to crash large economy's with a single word! It's O-boy". Yikes. Anyway, I just thought I'd like to address the speaker thing. I just don't see it, but maybe someone more educated can give me something that makes me tingle as well, when I hear him speak. Sorry I just don't buy it when a reporter with restless leg syndrome, tells me that this man is a great speaker. I don't buy it when the same media that tells me "nothing to see here" during all the scandal that surrounds this guy, then tells me that "he is a great speaker". I am disinclined to buy in.

We have elected a narcissistic chameleon who becomes whatever we want him to be and it is easy, because he speaks in plattitudes with no substance, he can be whatever we want him to be. But as always, the mask drops and we get that glimpse, all too late, of what we have done. "Oh I don't think he'll come after guns, you're all just paranoid" or "he won't dare try the fairness doctrine" etc, folks, that is hopeful delusion. The US voted for change and here it comes, just not how we expected it. You just better make sure of what you vote for in the upcoming elections.

 

[ar10]

I've read a number of articles on the smuggling from the US to Mexico, and a couple of people I shoot with are BATF employees.
I have mixed feelings on the issue. One thing I do know is after a semi-auto assault rifle gets into Mexico from the US it's generally taken to a gunsmith for conversion to automatic. From what I understand these gunsmiths are so good that confiscated guns look like factory issued weapons. All of them are sold from 5 to 10 times they're actual purchase value except some of the high dollar Colts and SW's handguns. These are more of a status gun for the drug lords and get 4 to 5k each.

The real problem is Mexico is so porous they'll find a new route to get guns they want. Mexico also has many more social problems than the US especially poverty. As long as it's a trans shipment point for drugs moving into the US gun will always be available. And as much rhetoric the Mexican government wants to spew out about their US gun problem money from drugs is revenue for Mexico.

 

[Shung]

I keep hearing he is a great speaker. Apparently I must not be inhaling the same stuff

don't worry, seems that the stuff you're talking about isnt available here neither..

 

[Durus]

I think it's very important to keep in mind exactly why they want overthrow the 2nd Amendment.

 

[mstirton]

Yes, I'm afraid the AWB will be worse this time around and it's not why I'm so worried about Obama/Dems. In case you haven't noticed, we are becoming a socialist country faster now than ever before. I'm worried that there may come a day (soon) that we have to use our 2nd ammendment right for the purpose it was created. I just saw that in order for TX (and other fiscally responsible states) to receive our wonderful stimulus money, we have to rewrite our welfare laws to include pretty much anyone who wants free stuff.

 

[Carl N. Brown]

OK, apparently if you are surrounded by large furry animals with glowing eyes and dripping fangs closing in on you, it's paranoid to call wolf.

Last I heard Nancy Pelosi had advised Obama not to push for an AWB at this time. "Not at this time" boys and girls means eventually.

That does mean we have time to mount our defenses.

 

[Knucklehead2]

Lou Dobbs last night said the Mexican government is not releasing the serial numbers of captured firearms. Therefore, we have to take the word of the Mexican government these firearms came from the USA. If the cartels were purchasing grenades and explosives, why would they go through the trouble of sourcing AK clones from US gun shops and then converting them to full auto?

 

[Hoot Gibson]

Are We Crying Wolf?

You gotta be kidding? Hell no, anybody that doesn't understand what's going on after just 5 weeks of this administratioin must be in a coma.

 

[Tom Servo]

Last I heard Nancy Pelosi had advised Obama not to push for an AWB at this time. "Not at this time" boys and girls means eventually.

Well, I'm guessing "eventually" will have to be before the 2010 mid-terms. Notice the (almost) complete Republican opposition to the spending bill. You can bet the 2010 elections are going to be all about FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY. It'll be an easy issue for the Republicans, too, since even if the stimulus bill was worth anything, it won't have achieved anything by then.

You can bet the Democrats know that, too. This was their masterpiece, but it can very easily become their albatross. I'm sure Pelosi and the rest are busy making sure they stay on target. And that means pre-emptive damage control.

So, guns will likely be on the back burner for now. If the Republicans can take a few more seats in 2010, it'll be even harder for the Democrats to ramrod any sort of ban.

Do they WANT one? Heck, yes. Do they think they can get one? No. Bear in mind, Holder's comments were brushed off by Pelosi the same afternoon they were made.

I stand by original contention that posting messages on the internet is nonproductive, unless people do as you have done, sir, and act.

Agreed. The internet allows us to be much better networked and informed than we were in 1993 (was rec.guns even around then?). But it runs two ways. I see threads like this everywhere, and I get constant emails every time someone in the administration opens their mouth, but when I ask people what they're actually doing, they go mute.

"Well, I'm in the NRA," isn't activism. "Well, I voted once," isn't doing something. I do wish some of this energy being spent on hysterical blog and forum posts would actually be directed at calling/writing legislators.

In the end, we've still got Heller, and those who'd push for a ban still remember how many of their comrades lost jobs over this in 1994. I don't like the current administration, and I sure don't trust them. But I know political reality, and the current situation isn't fertile ground for a new ban.

 

[slzy]

obama has as good a grasp of fiscal responsibility as blogovecch [or whatever] has on ethics.

disarming the populace,dispensing health care at the administrations' pleasure,and amnesty for illegal aliens sure does'nt sound like wolf.

a kinder,gentler, genocide.

 

[jbech123]

“The Obama administration will seek to reinstate the assault weapons ban that expired in 2004 during the Bush administration, Attorney General Eric Holder said today. ‘As President Obama indicated during the campaign, there are just a few gun-related changes that we would like to make, and among them would be to reinstitute the ban on the sale of assault weapons,’ Holder told reporters. Holder said that putting the ban back in place would not only be a positive move by the United States, it would help cut down on the flow of guns going across the border into Mexico, which is struggling with heavy violence among drug cartels along the border.” (Source: ABC News Online) Read the full article HERE or visit http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=6960824&page=1.

 

[everallm]

Jbech123,

I would recommend using the search function before posting something like this.

This has been posted 19 times already including post#54 on this very thread, do a search for 6960824.

You also left out the minor issue that less than 24 hours later both the White House and Pelosi publicly disowned the AG's statement .