Arizona no permit concealed carry law now in effect.

[Palehorseman]

On July 29th the law went into effect. I am now glad to be able to do so, but doubt I will carry all the time. To AZ residents (or for those out of state) who may not be aware, there are still some restrictions as to where one may carry. Also Police will be asking if one is carrying, and must be answered truthfully, or can be charged with carrying a concealed weapon. So for those not familiar with the law, a little research time would be well spent.

With the three escaped murderers from nearby Kingman state prison, Wife and I will definitely carry until they are apprehended or dealt with.

We have two of the little .380 Bersa Model 85's with the double stacked 13 rd mags. Silly maybe, but the escaped cons awareness pucker factor have us both carrying them around the house.

 

[6x6pinz]

Hopefully the change does not keep people from getting their permits. I still think it is a good idea to get one even though in most cases it is no longer needed for CC. The CC permit has always been in question since criminals are not known for following rules anyway

 

[armoredman]

We got one of the escapees in Colorado, other two still floating free.

 

[C-grunt]

Hey Armoredman... what the hell man???!!!

Just Kidding.

I would still get the CCW for the extra perks.

OP.. you stay safe up there. If they come down south we will take care of them for you.

 

[Yo Mama]

I'm in Phoenix, and let me tell you we have a long way to go. It's only useful if you're going to Walmart or the grocery store. The bill was sold as a way to eliminate the need to have a permit calling it Constitutional Carry, but damned if I don't have to still pay 55 bucks for my renewal.

Places you still need a permit:

1. 1000 feet within a school zone (that's right, you're passing by and get pulled over for speeding your screwed).

2. Parks, and mountain trails.

3. Resteraunt/bar carry.

 

[Zombie_Flesh]

...until they are apprehended or dealt with.

By 'dealt with' what are you saying?

 

[doc2rn]

By 'dealt with' what are you saying?

Probably put back in better cages under better eyes, or in the case of the one caught up here in the shootout....yes he shot it out with LEO a couple of blocks from a Medium security prison; dealt with!

 

[Palehorseman]

By 'dealt with' what are you saying?

 

[gofastman]

1000 feet within a school zone (that's right, you're passing by and get pulled over for speeding your screwed).

Really? Thats kind of strange, a car is your property, can you own a gun in AZ if your house is within 1000 feet of a school?

 

[armoredman]

No, that's not quite right, we can carry on a right of way that goes by a school, the way I learned it years ago. You can't carry on a school yet, but we're working on that one this upcoming year so college students don't have to be unarmed.

PS, that's the Federal 1000 foot rule, not a state law, the first version SCOTUS tossed in Lopez, IIRC.

 

[AKPastor]

We've had this set up in Alaska. You can still get the permit - but not many do as reciprocity is not as big a deal to some of us interior folk that don't like to leave AK. Open or concealed carry is pretty common as we have no local law enforcement and so we do not live with the illusion that leo's are the answer to personal safety. Most true Alaskans are comfortable with knowing you are armed, but tourists can get a bit touchy. Because of this I usually carry a large frame revolver and pull a long shirt on that mostly conceals it.

Great news that other states are moving this direction - provided that the folks who carry take their responsibility seriously.

- Just another pistol packin' preacher from Alaska

 

[megatronrules]

Does AZ still offer a permit? What I'm asking is does on still have the option of getting a permit for reciprocity purposes? Is a permit system even in place?

 

[bwsmith2850]

The last I saw AZ was keeping the CCW permit so they can still offer the reciprocal agreements where your CCW is good in other states.

Has the world ended there yet? I haven't seen the threatened pictures of the streets running with blood and covered in bodies. Or from anywhere else, come to think of it. Are they wrong in the Peoples Republic of Madison?

 

[Deaf Smith]

I'd sure love it if Texas went the way of Alaska, Vermont, and now Arizona!

I'd be mighty pleased!

Deaf

 

[oboe]

Are you saying that (a) you generally don't need a permit to CCW in AZ, and (b) if you DO have a permit you can carry it into a bar?????

So I have a Florida permit. If I have it with me in AZ and carry concealed - what's in, what's out?

This whole issue is just so much bull**** anyway. The only good news I see is that the country is moving nicely in the right direction. Not fast or far enough, but moving.

 

[azyogi]

(a). yes, if you can legally own a gun [no FOID or crap just a clean record](b). yes, but you may not drink while CCW in a bar or resturant. I don't know about Recip rules yet, but don't think constitutional carry changed that.

 

[armoredman]

No, the firearms in places that serve open alcohol has NOT changed, you still must have a valid permit, and may not consume alcohol while carrying in the place of business. This is mainly aimed at resteraunts, so my wife and I can enjoy an evening in Olive Garden with fine Italian food while people at the other tables are drinking the vino.
oboe, no, no permit is needed to carry openly or concealed in Arizona, with the listed exceptions. Refer to azleg.gov, Arizona Revised Statues, Title 13, Section 31, subsection 2, Definitions of misconduct, for a better picture of dos/don'ts.

 

[Shadow 7D]

In Alaska, there is still a permit, and it is suggested that you get so that you can carry in other state, otherwise, as long as you know the law

"Are you ok with me having a gun in your residence, and are the owner or a lawful occupier of consent age'

one example, also, you MUST inform an officer, ect. just because you don't have a card is no excuse for not knowing the law.

 

[leadcounsel]

You still need the permit to carry out of state, right?

 

[oboe]

Thanks, folks.

So I get the choice of feeling safe or saturated but not both at the same time. I'll take safe (or at least capable of self defense).

 

[Tim the student]

Good stuff. Congrats guys. Iowa is moving in the right direction, maybe we can be where you guys are in a few years.

Just one thing to fix in this thread:

...enjoy an evening in Olive Garden with [strike]fine Italian[/strike] food

Vicenza spoiled me, what can I say.

 

[azyogi]

Worst pizza I ever had was in Rome.

 

[Mr.Davis]

Palehorseman,

I'm glad to hear AZ is moving the right direction. Hopefully a couple years of stable or declining crime in the state will lead other places to adopt similar provisions, and to expand AZ's law.

I would encourage you to reconsider carrying only sometimes. As you know, there are other threats beyond the occasional prison escapee, and only carrying when you're aware of a potential threat is a great way to not be armed when the unfortunate time comes that you need to defend yourself.

I know that if I was unprepared to defend my wife because I didn't feel like carrying that day, I could never forgive myself.

 

[Yo Mama]

No, that's not quite right, we can carry on a right of way that goes by a school, the way I learned it years ago. You can't carry on a school yet, but we're working on that one this upcoming year so college students don't have to be unarmed.

Thanks armoredman, but I meant the parking lot only. With a CCW in AZ, you are legally alowed to have the gun in your glove box on the school parking lot.

Thats kind of strange, a car is your property, can you own a gun in AZ if your house is within 1000 feet of a school?

It's a problem with AZ law and other states as well. Yes car is your property, but looked at differently than your house. Now people who live in their homes are fine, until they leave their home in their car with their gun!



Bottom line, we're doing much better with the renewed focus in AZ, but we as will all states have a VERY long way to go.

Also, love this one, you have a CCW, see a murderer point a gun in the direction of a school or aim at someone on the school property, you can't shoot! This law has still not changed, and still needs to be worked on. I think it will be taken care of through the school focused bills.

 

[TexasBill]

School carry is going to be tough almost anywhere; it's too emotional an issue.

I also would like to see Texas adopt laws similar to Arizona; they owe us for more than 100 years of not being able to legally carry at all! IMHO, if they trust us with the vote, they should be able to trust us with a gun. (Of course, considering some of the people we've elected, that could be a double-edged sword.)