Armalite is supporting NY by still selling AR rifles to police. DONE WITH ARMALITE!

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You will never find anyone who agrees with that sentiment more than I. Do you really think that gutting my business will hurt them? Or will it hurt me? Do you really think it's wiser to gut my business, live on a bare minimum and suffer for absolutely no reason? Is that really the path to victory? It's really tough to fight an expensive battle when you're broke.

You've yet to show any valid argument that not selling to NY LEOs will cause Armalite to go bankrupt. You keep taking things to extremes by saying they're going to be living off the streets or off of unemployment checks unless they sell out on principle. Logic decrees that Armalite probably does way more business with private citizens than they do with NY law enforcement. They stand to benefit in civilian sales by boycotting the NY state law enforcement. They stand to lose big time if laws like the one in New York spread to other states or nationwide. They stand to lose big time if they keep treating their customers like the original message that was sent out also.

Spineless? I don't think so. I've been called a lot of things but never that. More cheap talk from an internet tough guy.

This is coming from the fellow who was just bragging about how many books he could put on the shelf in his house?

The Commander in Chief is an anti-gun socialist that wants to disarm and enslave us all. I guess all the military and federal law enforcement personnel who have not left their posts are also "spineless"???

This is just ridiculous. The CIC has made absolutely no call to reinstate slavery. He has done many things, but not that. Stop being so emotional and extreme about a very simple concept. Perhaps some of us choose to remain at our post so we can have a legitimate say in the times that may come? Would you rather have the military and law enforcement staffed with "yes men" from the Government, or free thinking individuals ready to die for their principles? I think you just answered your own question.


Yeah dude, I give regularly to the NRA-ILA, have been a regular member for over 20yrs, signed up all the family members and friends I could, participate regularly on the NRA and other pro-freedom webpages, write my congresscritters and make an ass out of myself on forums like this but I'm a sellout because I don't pollute my business with politics. Yep, that's it. Feels like I'm arguing with idealistic juveniles that are all balls and no brains.

Again, sounds like you're all about standing up for your "principles" until there's some real skin in the game. Also, see your comments on "internet toughguyism" above...
 
I'll not bother any further because you clearly aren't getting the message.

Thats cool. I read all your posts in this thread, it took me at least 5 minutes. The only message you are sending is "I can say whatever I want but if you disagree you are making crap up, not understanding me, going off pure emotion and don't have as much principle as a man who would rather have food than principles to begin with."

Also for those of you who haven't seen it, I believe this is the NY based gun forum that started this whole thing. My hats are off to them. http://www.nyfirearms.com/forums/fi...t-refusing-le-govt-sales-thread-campaign.html
 
You guys do understand that these companies have to make money or they do not stay in business, correct? Personally, I think shooters are way too busy-body on this issue and have WAY too much to say about how businesses conduct themselves. Real easy when it ain't your money. We do business with companies whose politics and policies we don't agree with. Why? Because business is business and politics is politics. If you're smart, you'll leave one out of the other. Unless you're independently wealthy and can afford to burn half your bridges. We're not, we can't, we won't. I don't blame Armalite for getting every penny they can get while they can get it.

Unless you want people in YOUR business?
CraigC, I just can't agree with you on this one. Principally because this isn't business and politics. This is businesses serving two markets - government and consumer. And thus, they are inexorably intertwined.
We have to cause company's to question their actions in the context of possibly having to choose which market they will get the opportunity to serve. If they pursue the government market in a firearm unfriendly state, then they will get to serve only that market. Consumers should shut off access to their market by buying products from companies who make a different choice.
It may very well work out that some companies will choose to serve governments and others will serve the private sector. Alternatively, the companies will protest government decisions as hurting their business and perhaps those policies will moderate.
In the end, we can think this through like a chess game and do nothing until we fully understand the end game or we can act. I prefer action. Thus I would support a boycott of companies who choose to value government business above private sector priorities in those states who are anti-gun owner extremists.
Others can make other choices. I would like to see a 'scorecard sticky' that shows company's, their actions, and the states in which they act. We can thus act as our hearts and minds dictate.
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"I would like to see a 'scorecard sticky' that shows company's, their actions, and the states in which they act. We can thus act as our hearts and minds dictate."

Which is the why of the Activism forum.
 
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