Assailant dead after killing two at Irvine supermarket, with sword (merged threads)

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If I had no firearm, I would do what medieval peasants did when facing swords--GO TO THE GARDENING SECTION. The deadliest medieval weapons were, in fact, modified pruning and farming tools.
 
There are 3 Albersons in Irvine, I shop at the other two.

Penholder, no 92G, Blade-Tech is still a month out on carbon fiber Concealex. Right now all it's just Grace and 25 rounds of 9mm.

Reports were that people in the store were using things around the store to hold the BG off.

I know it's not my fight, but if the guy had a bladed weapon and I had a fist full of HK, I couldn't, with a clear conscience, beat feet. Now if he had a long gun and friends with long guns, that's another story. I know i'm not Batman (just Skunkman) but this one's got me thinking hard about it since it's literally so close to home.
 
I’m sorry but this couldn’t have happened. You see, it is illegal to carry a sword in California.
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Actually, it’s not. So long as the sword is not concealed, it’s perfectly legal to carry it, according to my reading of the relevant code. However, it’s still probably not a good way to ingratiate yourself to the local cops.

~G. Fink
 
Gravity & law

bogie - too funny!

BTW, the Gun Control laws certainly works well here. He must have known of it and used a sword instead. :rolleyes:
 
Last night, a Los Angeles news channel reported it as a SHOOTING in a grocery store, but didn't say how he killed the people inside, only that he killed two with a "weapon" before he was shot by police, the logo behind the news anchor said SHOOTING with a picture of a Berreta 92FS.
 
Sorry G. Fink but you are wrong. CA and local counties/cities have Dirk and Dagger ordinances. For the most part fixed blades must be under 3- 5" or are illegal to carry in any form and folding knives must be under 3- 5" depending on where you're at.
 
If CA had a patio collapse, like in Chicago, and Kill dozens it would be the first state to legislate gravity; You see they had a permit so it must have been gravitys' fault.
 
Doc, I believe the dagger/dirk restrictions apply to concealed carry but not to open carry. However, I’m not a lawyer. Neither would I tempt fate by walking through the local mall with a long sword hung from my belt. :D

~G. Fink
 
Ex-Doc, you weren't surprised that the pap dispensing propaganda meisters on the news tube, lied about the incident, and put a pistol up as the graphic, were you??

I lived in Los Angeles 35 years, and for at least 25 years, the communistnazis who control the teeeveee stations, did exactly that. Lies, distortions, half truths... are the standard style for those moronic Marxist Socialists who vomit out their propaganda each afternoon and night. No surprise to me they haven't changed a lick.

Expect nothing more from them and you'll never be disappointed.

J.B.
 
Given the gobblins reach advantage over me with a longer knife, I'd settle for dousing the scumbag down with some BBQ or lighter fluid and taking a match to him. These items can be easily found in any supermarket.
 
My VERY LIMITED study of the applicable law is WAY out of date but in the early 80's the two main knife laws were Penal Code sections 653k and 12020.

If I remember right - It was illegal to carry CONCEALDD UPON THE PERSON a dirk or dagger - IE: a weapon with at least two sharpened edges or primarily designed for stabbing. A machete or samurai sword was okay.

THIS INFORMATION MAY BE OUT OF DATE! But I will almost bet that the law is the same today.

You watch.... now the [recal him please] Gray Davis [/end recall editorial] led hogs in Sacramento will likely pass a law saying a fixed balde length over XXX is illegal.... I am SURE it would have deterred this alleged lowlife dirtbag if only another law had been in place.

Never mind he ignored penal code section 187....


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Take care folks.... Un less of course you are in California... for our laws will protect us by their simply being inked into lawbooks....

Charles

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Heroics with sprays and chemicals and watermelons seem very cool.. however.... I am sorry.. but you got a guy determined to kill people off who is bouncing from asile to asile slashing and hacking... cans of soup and fruitrolls just aint gonna change his behavior except to make me a target.

Nope... sorry... call me a coward but unless I saw an absolutely blind side of him and had a fairly certain opening I am NOT gonna go become the next level of sushi meat. There is a time to retreat.

On the other hand if this was not California I'd have a CCW.... then like the Tactical Assault Skunk said... I could not in clear conscience walk away while others are being skewered. Some 230 grain FMJ would be on its way down the dogfood asile and I'd HOPE that I'd be able to have the presence of mind to be able to make it accurate enough to stop the naughty behavior. :)

I'd like to never have to find out in person how I'd do. If I do however, I hope the HECK I am no longer in CCWless California when such a test comes.

Charles
 
I live in Kern County and if it had happened at my grocery store, I would have had to draw. That is the nice thing about the PRK, not many people carrying but a handful of CCWs and a few cops. Therefore we don't have any of those "do not carry" signs and if someone does decide to do a sword rampage around me, I am going to do what I have to do to defend my life. In Los Angeles? Forget about it.
 
Or a bic lighter and a cheap large can of hair spray. Any canned goods with decent velocity. There has to be a calibre type argument there somewhere.
 
Dang, I used to live only a couple of miles away from that store. Irvine was/is (?) one of the top 10 safest cities (with population > 100,000) in America. Didn't seem to have changed since I visited there last year (until now????).
 
Or a bic lighter and a cheap large can of hair spray. Any canned goods with decent velocity. There has to be a calibre type argument there somewhere.
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Does that actually work? I seen it on TV and video games but never bothered to try it in person. Like many other things I see on TV and video games, I let the professionals and people on MTV's Jackass test drive before I do it.

Got my two cans of vegetables unscathed today. :rolleyes:
 
Skunk, which threads would that be?

Thrre feet of sword with a PK of .8 versus three foot of flame that requires some dwell time to be effective. Hmmmm....

Sword wins.

SIC - five patrons re-enacting a Biblical stoning - sounds like civics in action to me!
 
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